They have to wear white shorts, even when menstruating . That is finally one rule that is changing.
That's very good to hear. One thing I hope you know is that FIFA and the FA have to agree to change laws of the modern game and it just doesn't happen instantly. Uefa holds more influence than Concacaf and in some ways that's a shame since in some aspects women's sports are ahead here compared to Europe which puts the global game behind in most other continents. If you want to see change faster, write to UEFA to see it happen because that's where the money and power lies in the end.
That's not true. If anything, they promote the women more than the men. The USWNT has been always supported (excluding pay) compared to many other FAs in the world. The tv channels promote teams that they think will gain more views. And the USMNT players majority of the time promote the USWNT when they can as well. And there are women in charge at the USSF as well. Are you going to blame the MLS next for not mandating women's teams be included in every expansion bid as well? I respect your opinion but I have followed the game for over 20 years. I'm genuinely curious how long have you been a fan of the game?
The advertising dollars could be different though. Just because there are the same amount of ads doesn't mean its the same amount of revenue.
TNT/HBO made a deal with USSF itself not two separate deals with the men's and women's teams.
Do you know the details of the deals? If not, then you don't know if the lets say $1M (making up a number) they're paying USSF was "valued" as $600k for the men and $400k for the women (or the reverse).
https://www.si.com/soccer/2022/03/01/us-soccer-media-rights-deal-turner-sports-hbo-2023
True, but what @WhatDinosaur was saying is still wrong, believing that the USSF does not support or promote the USWNT is false. I think the USWNT has a larger following fanbase wise than the USMNT. I would love to see the ticket sales difference between USMNT and the USWNT. Ironically EL Tri almost always sells out here. I don't think the USMNT can claim that often but maybe the USWNT could?
OK, aside from saying the deal is costing ~$25M/year, what did any of those articles have to do with my contentions?
I would argue that the opponent the USA plays normally determines how many people tune in. Example, the USMNT plays Oman and Uzbekistan next month. One match will be at 5:30 pm ET on a Saturday and the other will be at 8:30 pm ET on a Tuesday. Both at a reasonable time slots for advertisers. However, how many casuals will tune in to see two countries, that most Americans have not heard of, dominated by the USMNT? The women will be playing South Africa on a Thursday at 7:30 pm ET and on a Sunday at 5:30 pm ET. Both times are easy to advertise and American viewers have heard of South Africa before. Plus the women have the advantage of their matches being advertised during the USMNT team matches as well.
What are you arguing though? Fans of the teams will tune in regardless of who they play. I think there will be a FEW (statistically insignificant number) of people who will say "well, I wouldn't normally watch the women play, but since they're playing South Africa, I'll get it a chance".
You have a point. I'm just trying to look at this logically. Most FA's keep details it seems to themselves overall. Heck, look at MLS not always explaining everything in the deals they make.
I think you're looking at it too simply, not logically.
Maybe, but due to the lack of public data (that I can't seem to find), we don’t seem to have an answer either way. So the answer is sort of inconclusive at the moment.
We are only a few years out from the equal pay lawsuit where corporate sponsors distanced themselves from USSF and the head of USSF had to resign due to the blatant sexism put out in official statements. Coca-Cola straight up called the statements offensive. It will take a long time for that culture to change and the women’s team to be as valued as the men’s. For soccer to grow in the US USSF needs to figure out how to change their culture because they did so much damage alienating women during the lawsuit.
