US drops resolution seeking war crimes exemption

Originally posted by ThreeCircles

And, the word I was looking for, get this, was dribble. Look it up. And, here's a hint, it had more than one definition.
:p

actually, no. the dribble you were trying to use is a verb that you used incorrectly as a noun, meaning "to drivel".

As for the rest of it, I am working on a paper right now, but I'll try to fit in all of the examples. But, here are a couple:

cowards: France...'nuff said

half-wits: Kofie Anan

Terrorists: Lybia & Sudan are UN human rights comission members

But, you'll keep ignoring the facts. We've all gotten used to it.
 
Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
As for the rest of it, I am working on a paper right now, but I'll try to fit in all of the examples. But, here are a couple:

cowards: France...'nuff said

half-wits: Kofie Anan

Terrorists: Lybia & Sudan are UN human rights comission members

But, you'll keep ignoring the facts. We've all gotten used to it.

Yikes. I hope you don't have to defend that paper. Or worse, I hope it's not your dissertation! :eek: You're going to run into some problems if I had to make a guess. Actually, thinking about it, I would love to see you defend that one! :hyper:

While you posted some interesting opinions, which, once again back up your nationalistic tendencies, they are not "facts."
 
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In the grand scheme of things, this matters not a bit. the UN is a meaningless organization run by half-wits, anti-semites, cowards & terrorists.

Yeah thats why Bush had to back - Afr if your so against ICC and the UN why don't you leave both. :rolleyes:


At the end of the day - one thing is for sure the US will think twice before sending their troops to other parts of the World - and they'll not get away with abusing again.


So that has to be a good thing - I CAN'T SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO FEAR, FROM THE ICC - Heres some of the Judges

Judge Mr. Karl T. HUDSON-PHILLIPS (Trinidad and Tobago).
Elected for a 9 year period from the Latin American and Caribbean Group of States (GRULAC).

In 1959, after he graduated from the University of Cambridge in the UK, Judge Hudson-Phillips was called to the Bars of the United Kingdom and Trinidad Tobago, and in 1970 was appointed Queen's Counsel of the Bar of Trinidad and Tobago. He had an extensive private practice in Trinidad and Tobago and the Commonwealth Caribbean, as well as before the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council, in London. Judge Hudson-Phillips was Attorney-General and Minister of Legal Affairs of Trinidad and Tobago from 1969 to 1973. In his capacity of Attorney-General, he oversaw the implementation of significant legislative reform in the areas of criminal law, labour law, and divorce law. He has defended and prosecuted in several high-profile criminal trials in the Caribbean region, involving murder, treason, and misbehaviour in public office, fraud, illegal drugs and extradition. He is a Law Defence Commissioner in Trinidad and Tobago and a member of the Board of the Justice Studies Centre of Americas in Santiago, Chile.

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Judge Ms. Elizabeth ODIO BENITO (Costa Rica).
Elected for a 9 year period from the Latin American and the Caribbean Group of States (GRULAC).

Judge Benito has comprehensive practical and academic experience in the field of human rights and international humanitarian law. She has been a member of the Costa Rican Group to the Permanent Court of Arbitration since 2000. Judge Benito has served as Vice-President of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (1993 to 1995) and was judge of the Tribunal until 1998. From 1983 to 1986 she was Special Rapporteur to the United Nations Subcommission on Discrimination and Intolerance based on Religion or Creed. She authored an important report on the elimination of religious discrimination and creed published by the United Nations in 1986. In 1998 she was President of the Working Group on the Optional Protocol for the Convention Against Torture and Other Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. Judge Benito was a member of the Sub-Commission for the Prevention of Discrimination and Minorities Protection, Human Rights Commission, 1980 to 1983. She is author and co-author of several publications on human rights, international humanitarian law and international criminal law.

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Judge Mr. Tuiloma Neroni SLADE (Samoa).
Elected for a 3 year period from the Asian Group of States.

Judge Slade, a Barrister and Solicitor, was formerly Attorney-General of Samoa. He has competence in criminal law and procedure and relevant experience, as prosecutor and advocate, in criminal proceedings. From 1993 to 2003, he was the Permanent Representative of Samoa to the United Nations. Judge Slade has competence in the area of international law, and in particular the law of human rights. From 1995 he led the Samoan delegation to the international processes for the development of the International Criminal Court. In 1998 he was Vice-President of the United Nations Diplomatic Conference of Plenipotentiaries on the Establishment of an International Criminal Court and Co-ordinator for the Preamble and Final Clauses of the draft Rome Statute. He has served as senior legal advisor in the Legal Division of the Commonwealth Secretariat in London and has undertaken legal and advisory work among Commonwealth member States and their judicial and legal professions, including on international humanitarian standards and the law of human rights, maintenance of the rule of law and the development of the arrangements for mutual assistance in criminal matters.


Tribunal. As President, Judge Jorda initiated and supervised over the implementation of significant reforms towards a more efficient judicial process. Judge Jorda has comprehensive legal practice working in many different areas covering a wide range of legal practice. He has been Attorney-General in the Appeals Courts in Paris and Bordeaux and Director of Judicial Services for the French Ministry of Justice. He has been in missions of judicial co-operation in Chile, Guatemala, Ivory Coast, Egypt, Algeria and Canada. He has contributed to different scientific legal publications on human rights and international humanitarian law and has written extensively on the role of victims and the development of international criminal law.

Judge Mr. Georghios M. PIKIS (Cyprus).
Elected for a 6 year period from the Asian Group of States.

Judge Pikis has been President of the Supreme Court of Cyprus since 1995, and a Judge of the Supreme Court since 1981. He has competence in law of human rights, criminal law and criminal procedure and international criminal law. Judge Pikis served as ad hoc judge of the European Court on Human Rights on two occasions, in 1993 and 1997. He was elected and served as member of the United Nations Committee against Torture from 1996 to 1998. He has written several legal publications on human rights, the rule of law, judicial independence and criminal law and criminal procedure.

Judge Ms. Elizabeth ODIO BENITO (Costa Rica).
Elected for a 9 year period from the Latin American and the Caribbean Group of States (GRULAC).

Judge Benito has comprehensive practical and academic experience in the field of human rights and international humanitarian law. She has been a member of the Costa Rican Group to the Permanent Court of Arbitration since 2000. Judge Benito has served as Vice-President of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (1993 to 1995) and was judge of the Tribunal until 1998. From 1983 to 1986 she was Special Rapporteur to the United Nations Subcommission on Discrimination and Intolerance based on Religion or Creed. She authored an important report on the elimination of religious discrimination and creed published by the United Nations in 1986. In 1998 she was President of the Working Group on the Optional Protocol for the Convention Against Torture and Other Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. Judge Benito was a member of the Sub-Commission for the Prevention of Discrimination and Minorities Protection, Human Rights Commission, 1980 to 1983. She is author and co-author of several publications on human rights, international humanitarian law and international criminal law.

Judge Mr. Tuiloma Neroni SLADE (Samoa).
Elected for a 3 year period from the Asian Group of States.

Judge Slade, a Barrister and Solicitor, was formerly Attorney-General of Samoa. He has competence in criminal law and procedure and relevant experience, as prosecutor and advocate, in criminal proceedings. From 1993 to 2003, he was the Permanent Representative of Samoa to the United Nations. Judge Slade has competence in the area of international law, and in particular the law of human rights. From 1995 he led the Samoan delegation to the international processes for the development of the International Criminal Court. In 1998 he was Vice-President of the United Nations Diplomatic Conference of Plenipotentiaries on the Establishment of an International Criminal Court and Co-ordinator for the Preamble and Final Clauses of the draft Rome Statute. He has served as senior legal advisor in the Legal Division of the Commonwealth Secretariat in London and has undertaken legal and advisory work among Commonwealth member States and their judicial and legal professions, including on international humanitarian standards and the law of human rights, maintenance of the rule of law and the development of the arrangements for mutual assistance in criminal matters.


Judge Sir Adrian FULFORD (United Kingdom).
Elected for a 9 year period from the Western European and others Group of States (WEOG).

Since 1978, he has been a barrister, and a Queen's Counsel from 1994. He is currently a Judge of the High Court in the United Kingdom. He has established competence in criminal law and procedure and is experienced as both judge and advocate. He has competence in relevant areas of international law, in particular the law of human rights, and has extensive experience in professional legal ethics. Judge Fulford has legal expertise on a wide range of specific relevant issues, including violence against women and children; serious acts of violence such as murder and terrorism; and has extensive practical experience of questions relating to evidence in criminal cases and the handling of sensitive information (including for the protection of victims and sources). He has edited of important legal publications and has been widely published.



They all seem very good people - What is there to FEAR Afr -- If your not doing anything wrong then you've nothing to Worry about!!!!!!!
 

If the U.S. dislikes the UN so much and will only pick and choose which UN resolutions to follow anyway, why doesn't the U.S. just leave the organization? Remaining a member seems pointless now.

By the way, according to dictionary.com one definition of "dribble" is To slaver, as a child or an idiot; to drivel . I don't know if that is what was meant but funny that it works.
 
Originally posted by Planogirl

By the way, according to dictionary.com one definition of "dribble" is To slaver, as a child or an idiot; to drivel . I don't know if that is what was meant but funny that it works.

Once again, a verb. he used it incorrectly as a noun. So it does not fit.
 
Yeah thats why Bush had to back - Afr if your so against ICC and the UN why don't you leave both.


At the end of the day - one thing is for sure the US will think twice before sending their troops to other parts of the World - and they'll not get away with abusing again.

A couple salient points...

First, we are not a part of the ICC, so hard to leave something we never joined.

Second, you misrepresent the current state of affairs. US troops have not "gotten away" with anything. They will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Let's not solve a problem where one doesn't exist.

Third, the roster of judges is irrelevant. That roster can change. Not that a one paragraph bio tells one much about these people anyway.

Fourth, the fact remains that the ICC can prosecute in cases where the nation's legal system determines that there is no crime to prosecute. If you can't see that this opens up considerable possibilities for abuse of the system for political motives, then it's difficult to pursue this discussion further.
 
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At the end of the day - one thing is for sure the US will think twice before sending their troops to other parts of the World

We'll think twice about and hopefully refuse to send troops wherever the UN is involved, but then again, we should be doing that anyway.

and they'll not get away with abusing again

I don't think "again" would apply unless troops have already gotten away with abusing - care to tell us which troops have gotten away with it?
 














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