Update from 3/16 Magic Cruise - Fire

[redpants]

Originally posted by Horace Horsecollar: "I would feel better if DCL were now to issue a factual statement that doesn't just use the word "minimal" but that describes exactly what they found on Saturday when the ship was in port."

Sorry to say, but Disney is very close-mouthed about maintenance/safety. The general public is not going to get any other info than "minimal damage" and that all is well, because that leads to too many cooks in the kitchen. What do you think would happen if they announced there was such-and such structural damage and so-and-so fire damage to part X, Y, and Z? Everyone and their brother would have some sort of opinion as to whether it was safe or not (hence, too many cooks in the kitchen).

Do you feel the same way when you are in the theme parks, and a ride, like Tower of Terror breaks down? Do you demand a detailed explanation as to the intricate workings and failings of the ride? No! And, even though that ride can be every bit as dangerous as a fire on a cruise ship, we just accept that it has been fixed, and then carry on.

I understand your concerns about the fire, but I think that you need to be a little more trusting of the staff of DCL, who have not only your best interests and safety at heart, but all the other guests and their crew as well.

 

[KenP]

The real reason Disney is not going to be open about what went wrong is because of all the bottom fishing trial lawyers. I don't blame Disney.

You can bet Disney is doing a complete _CLOSED DOOR_ investigation of the incident.

 

[mikeymars]

Originally posted by johnf
all of you who are questioning why teens are on the deck at 4 am are WAY off base.

Oh, please, we're not demonzing the kids (enough of these tangents about bigotry, etc. please!) nor implying they started the fire (and good for them if they did indeed discover it). We just disagree with those who imply that it's "100% normal" for teens to be doing whatever (sleeping? Ever hear of a bed?) out on deck at 4am. If that's there style, fine -- I never said they can't be there -- but it to imply it shouldn't raise any eyelids (or that the ones it does are in front of overly judgmental minds) is going a bit far.

We just disagree!

 

[mmouse37]

MIKEYMARS......I was well aware that the fire was on Thursday and not the LAST NIGHT OF THE CRUISE....I was just stating that the "tradition" of staying out late is for the last night of the cruise.

Your right in the fact that teens (young adults) being out at 4 am is not "normal" but this is not their "normal" lifestyle. It is vacation for pete's sake. I certainly would not let my teens stay out at all hours at home. They have so much day-to-day pressue as it is, being out late on vacation is not a big deal to me. And to clarify, I would not let them out this late on just any vacation or any cruise ship....I do trust Disney. Maybe I am naive, but after 5 DCL cruises and numerous trips to WDW I have a sense of security about them being on the ship.

They must be with other people, never alone anywhere on deck and as another poster mentioned, they are observed by the night staff to make sure nothing happens. If this was a problem I am sure Disney would have implemented a curfew. Maybe after this incident they will, only time will tell.

MJ

 

[tecdavidt]

As far as the fire is concerned, it looks like it was serious, BUT, everything is back to normal. Everything is on time, everything is open, and everything is once again MAGICAL. So all future cruisers should relax and get back to anticipating a fun cruise.

As far as rest of the bantering on this post .........to heck with it, I am on vacation!!!!!

Dave

Kathy here, after looking at the damaged funnel for the past few days, I would suggest maybe it was nothing more than a bad chimney fire, serious yes, but not different from one that we could have had at our own home. It will be interesting to finally find out the cause but it will be months. The day we sailed there were several insurance people inspecting the ship. As Dave said, all is back to normal and all are having a magical time. After all when on the Magic it is magical and on the Wonder it is wonderful. I should also add, the food is GREAT compared to our other 3 cruises!!! Kathy

 

[dianthus]

Dave - Glad to hear everything is fine on the ship and you guys are enjoying yourselves! That is the most important thing! I was worried that your group of cruisers would be effected, as you guys were the first to sail after the fire.

Have Fun!

 

[dizneykids]

kathy...i agree...the food was absolutely incredible compared to previous cruises we've made. my only bad meal (if you can call it that) was the lobster on thursday...it was just a little bit tough.

btw, i have new menus from each of the restaurants if anyone wants to know what was offered when on the "fire" cruise...and NO, there were no marshmallows available

 

[Hopkins]

Dave and Kathy:

Since you are on the ship, find out what they are doing with all the trash that's being generated. Are the getting rid of it at each port? Saving it all up? Is there another incinerator? Is it working?

Thanks.
Tina
Magic Western 1/18/03

 

[Tluvs2talk]

Dave And Kathy,
I just wanted to say thank you for keeping everyone informed while you are on your cruise. I hope you are having a great time!!

 

[peter pans family]

i was lucky i went on the cruise from 3/2-3/9!! i just heard about it and i was wondering how it happened and why??

 

[pgesler]

My family's vacations with Disney have been some of our best vacations but I can also say from a very recent experience on a Disney vacation that when it comes to possible liability on Disney's part - they will treat their guests as if they are afraid of something. The posts on this thread seem to support this conclusion.

I found that they are extremely helpful when the accident happens but later they treat you as if you don't exist.

When the fire happened everyone said what a great job the Captain and the Crew did - but now where is the information on how it started and the extent of the fire.

Come on DCL - tell us!

 

[Mickey4Me]

The real reason Disney is not going to be open about what went wrong is because of all the bottom fishing trial lawyers.

As a trial lawyer myself, I have to say that I resemeble that remark! And I think I'm qualified to say the correct quote is "bottom FEEDING trial lawyers."

As the parent of a 17 yr old, I can't tell you how many weekends we've had a den full of girls spending the night whose heads never touch a pillow! I have no doubt that DD and friend will be up until the wee hours during our cruise. She's never given us a reason to distrust her, so I'm fine with that. I can even remember way back when I was that age and staying up all night was "fun". Sadly those days are long gone for me........

 

[gatour]

Just because there seems to be extensive damage to the top of the smokestack doesn't mean there is damge to the "core" of the ship. Some "junk" could have been caught up at the top and that is what caught fire. In addition the melted part could just the the "glamour" coat. IE, some relatively cheap sheet metal (think NASCAR race cars, the body can be banged up but the car is stiil racing because it is just sheetmetal), the internal (real) structure is still intact and safe. They then could still incinerate, and repair the damage based on some schedule.