Update..discounts appeared! How long does it take Orbitz to reflect Disneyland discounts?

[patty57]

I've been checking Orbitz and Cheaptickets since Disneyland offered their room discounts on Sept. 7, but they are not reflecting the discounts. Does anyone have an idea of how long it usually takes them to do that?

 

[patty57]

I guess this isn't something that people know about. I'm surprised that it's two days after the Disneyland discount, and the lowered prices aren't showing up on any of the vendors such as Cheaptickets, Orbitz, Expedia etc.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Disney promotions/ discounts are "passed on" to other vendors to be included in the price...that's not how wholesale travel works.

Then buy chunks of rooms - from Disney - usually a year in advance and then they sell them how they want them. Disney doesn't pass along a discount to them.

It's up to orbitz, Expedia, etc if they want to run a promo

 

[patty57]

I did a poor job explaining. I actually kind of understood how it worked, but they have been pretty consistent in passing along the discounts...at least with WDW rooms. Maybe not at Disneyland?

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I did a poor job explaining. I actually kind of understood how it worked, but they have been pretty consistent in passing along the discounts...at least with WDW rooms. Maybe not at Disneyland?

They might "match the promotion"...but it's never a pass along - I.e. The rooms don't cost them less to sell than what they have already paid...unless there's enough To buy a new block.

But in that case...Supply would have to be more than demand.

They could change their promo...but it looks like it is a flat discount and has been for the last few months into 1/1/17

 

[patty57]

Well, again, a bad choice of words on my part. The flat discount they are offering was a good deal before Disneyland's room only discount...it isn't anymore. Maybe the demand for rooms will drop off, and they will match the discount. I will have to check periodically and see.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Well, again, a bad choice of words on my part. The flat discount they are offering was a good deal before Disneyland's room only discount...it isn't anymore. Maybe the demand for rooms will drop off, and they will match the discount. I will have to check periodically and see.

It's worth the time to keep an eye on it

 

[gottalovepluto]

Technical discussion aside, Orbitz ran the same promos Disney ran when I booked a trip last summer. It took a bit for the discounts to work their way into the Orbitz system, sorry that I don't remember how long (maybe a few days). It didn't take longer than 1 week for sure. I would keep checking!

 

[gottalovepluto]

Be sure to make your reservation 180+10 for the $20 egg scramble at Be Our Guest

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Technical discussion aside, Orbitz ran the same promos Disney ran when I booked a trip last summer. It took a bit for the discounts to work their way into the Orbitz system, sorry that I don't remember how long (maybe a few days). It didn't take longer than 1 week for sure. I would keep checking!

I mean...it does make sense...

If you search rooms and orbitz is 18% off and Disney is 25%...who would book that.

My point is that it's not gonna be 18%+20%...

 

[gottalovepluto]

I mean...it does make sense...

If you search rooms and orbitz is 18% off and Disney is 25%...who would book that.

My point is that it's not gonna be 18%+20%...

And our point is you're wrong. It's been like that for years and for whatever reason the system works fine for Disney, Orbitz/Cheaptickets/other online sellers, and customers. I've booked multiple Disney hotels at the 15%-30% and then used an Orbitz coupon for an extra 15%-20% off. The catch is you have to pay for the whole hotel stay upfront. And sometimes now there is a cancellation fee with Orbitz. Welcome to stacking discounts for Disney hotels!! (I couldn't believe it when I discovered it a couple years ago either.)

 

[lockedoutlogic]

And our point is you're wrong. It's been like that for years and for whatever reason the system works fine for Disney, Orbitz/Cheaptickets/other online sellers, and customers. I've booked multiple Disney hotels at the 15%-30% and then used an Orbitz coupon for an extra 15%-20% off. The catch is you have to pay for the whole hotel stay upfront. And sometimes now there is a cancellation fee with Orbitz. Welcome to stacking discounts for Disney hotels!! (I couldn't believe it when I discovered it a couple years ago either.)

Disneyland and WDW are definitely different...no doubt.

But what you're describing is very rare at WDW...so I may be just comparing apples to oranges.

I think it's just as likely that the 18% is the price they had set all along after buying the rooms from Disney...and it's just rolled out as a promo.

Then the "extra" is a legitimate discount off whatever their predetermined target price was.

I do have experience In wholesale...albeit at WDW which is different. For instance almost no one books WDW through Expedia...it's just not how it is. I also see Disneylanders booking standards assuming upgrades...that is not the case in florida because they don't do upgrades for the sake of upgrades - it's to balance inventory and compensation and that is rarely used. Just two different things.

If you have technical insight into Disneyland offering additional discounts to wholesale sites...then I yield. It could be that way. But not guaranteed because it seems it works that way. It's kinda illogical.
Disney wants the rooms filled...but once they sell to orbitz, they have their money and are out of it. More discounts drives sales away from travel company where they DON'T have the money yet.

Wholesale will extends some blocks...like if I'm an agent and call and say "I need more rooms for 10/1 and I'm almost out"...Disney will throw me more if available.

But they typically wouldn't call and say "hey...we're rolling out a 20% next week...so why don't we give you an extra 20% off too, buddy?"
Why do that? It makes no sense.

 

[Sagginit]

Sept. 7 next year? I went to DL last year and booked a few months out. We stayed offsite as all DL hotels were more than we wanted to reasonably spend. This year I decide to book about 3.5 weeks out. I get a discount rate that just popped up in the last month much to my surprise so we are staying onsite. I would say its supply and demand. Low supply of DL hotel rooms means a greater demand and it will take longer for discounts to pop up across the board. This is replacing a WDW trip that I had to cancel and with that trip I was using Orbitz and WDW for price comparisons. As others said due to the wholesale nature of Orbitz what I was finding was certain hotels only had discounted rooms on one site. For ex. moderates were showing with a room discount at Orbitz but not on the WDW website (but I know they had FD at the time so I bet ya that filled the rooms that WDW wanted to sell themselves). WDW had room only discounts of 30% off standard rooms at Deluxe but Orbitz didn't even have rooms available for the same Deluxe. If you have always found the rooms/rates to align I would say that is not always the norm and most likely happens a certain period ahead of time when inventory and demand at both are closer.

In my experience the discounts and rates vary much more at DL (although I have only gone twice now) than WDW. I also think this has to do with what they offer you. WDW does things like Free dining, room only discounts, discounts on certain types of packages etc. DL has less to offer in the mix so they may be running more on a traditional supply and demand model. So if its a year out both DL and Orbitz/Expedia may be slow to discount as they might think they don't need to yet.

 

[Aladora]

And our point is you're wrong. It's been like that for years and for whatever reason the system works fine for Disney, Orbitz/Cheaptickets/other online sellers, and customers. I've booked multiple Disney hotels at the 15%-30% and then used an Orbitz coupon for an extra 15%-20% off. The catch is you have to pay for the whole hotel stay upfront. And sometimes now there is a cancellation fee with Orbitz. Welcome to stacking discounts for Disney hotels!! (I couldn't believe it when I discovered it a couple years ago either.)

That is exactly how I managed to snag the GCH for $229/night last Feb! And I cancelled using a 15% off code and rebooked when I was sent a 20% off one with no penalty.

 

[gottalovepluto]

That is exactly how I managed to snag the GCH for $229/night last Feb! And I cancelled using a 15% off code and rebooked when I was sent a 20% off one with no penalty.

Sweet deal!! Yeah, the DL hotels haven't been seeing the cancellation penalties from my understanding. Select WDW hotels were getting tagged with a $25 cancellation policy earlier this year, no idea if it stuck around but it reminded me to always read the fine print. And what a price you got on GCH! I'm still marveling at that!

 

[patty57]

Lots more discussion about this! I know I've seen the double-dipping discounts at WDW. I'll keep checking Orbitz etc for Disneyland. Thanks for everyone's input.

 

[Disney Dad ADL]

My point is that it's not gonna be 18%+20%..

As previously mentioned, yes it is exactly that. We just came home from Grand Californian Hotel today. Disney was offering 25% off rooms and cheap tickets had an 18% discount code. I was able to stack the two. It took a few days after Disney announced the discount rate to reflect in the Cheaptickets system, but eventually the advertised rate on Cheaptickets lowered by 25%, and you could still use the code for an additional 18% (which basically just paid for taxes, lol).

I actually had previously booked at full rack rate + the 18% Cheaptickets code, but was able to cancel the old one and rebook at the lower rate.

I believe the number of rooms Cheaptickets will offer is limited though. I think it's often possible to book on Disney's site even when sold out on Cheaptickets.

 

[julesann]

As previously mentioned, yes it is exactly that. We just came home from Grand Californian Hotel today. Disney was offering 25% off rooms and cheap tickets had an 18% discount code. I was able to stack the two. It took a few days after Disney announced the discount rate to reflect in the Cheaptickets system, but eventually the advertised rate on Cheaptickets lowered by 25%, and you could still use the code for an additional 18% (which basically just paid for taxes, lol).

I actually had previously booked at full rack rate + the 18% Cheaptickets code, but was able to cancel the old one and rebook at the lower rate.

I believe the number of rooms Cheaptickets will offer is limited though. I think it's often possible to book on Disney's site even when sold out on Cheaptickets.

To summarize (and thank you for spelling this out because I've been confused about this concept for a while now): you aren't using two codes right? You are watching as the rates fall on Cheaptickets and then you use their discount code--you don't do any booking via the WDTC right?

 

[Disney Dad ADL]

To summarize (and thank you for spelling this out because I've been confused about this concept for a while now): you aren't using two codes right? You are watching as the rates fall on Cheaptickets and then you use their discount code--you don't do any booking via the WDTC right?

Yes that's exactly right. You book thru Cheaptickets or Orbitz and you only use 1 code. The Disney discount should already be reflected in the price in the search engine. Then you use the 15% or 18% or whatever Cheaptickets code you have during the checkout process.

From what I have read from others experiences, usually the Cheaptickets price will match the Disney promotion at some point, but I'm not sure how long it takes. I remember seeing the Disney promotion advertised but checking on Cheaptickets, but Cheaptickets still had the full non-discounted price. A week or two later I checked again and the price had changed in Cheaptickets to match the Disney promotion.

 

[patty57]

I remember seeing the Disney promotion advertised but checking on Cheaptickets, but Cheaptickets still had the full non-discounted price. A week or two later I checked again and the price had changed in Cheaptickets to match the Disney promotion.

This is exactly where things stand right now. Disney's discount started on Wednesday. I keep checking Cheaptickets etc. to see if they will be reflecting the new, lower price. I actually booked a room at the DL Hotel using the Disney Visa discount over a week ago, but would love to cancel that for a Cheaptickets discounted room.