Untitled DL chat thread. Everyone is welcome! Part 11

[funnygarcia]

Oh, and I bought a neti pot today! Haven't dared try it out yet, though. The idea of pouring stuff in my nose gives me the willies, but it's supposed to be really good for the sinuses to flush out the uckies.

I watched a video on how to do that-- instructablesweb site .. .

>>>>shudder <<<<<

I don't think I could do it.

I had a heard enough time using a water pik to clean out/flush someone's ears.. ewwww.

 

[disneegrl4eva]

I see what you're saying, and I guess I wouldn't mind so much if he weren't such a wiggly, kicking, head-butting little thing! DH and I don't sleep as well as we could if he were in his own bed. And there are other reasons, too...

DS7 was 3yo when DS3 was born, and we had to boot him out of our bed because there just wasn't room for all 4 of us when I needed to nurse in the middle of the night. It was tough getting him in his own bed, but once it finally took, he was pretty well out for good unless he had a bad dream. I guess I feel like DS3 is old enough now that we can reason with him a bit like we did with DS7 at that age. I read an article last week that studies show a link between heart attacks or heart disease and lack of sleep, and so I thought, "We'd better get serious about this sleeping issue!"

have you thought about having dh go lay down with him in his bed till he falls asleep? and then if he wakes up in the middle of the night you can go take him back to his bed and lay down with him till he falls back to sleep...that way he can be comforted but yet understand that he has to start sleeping in his own bed...

 

[Alex2kMommy]

Symptoms of pneumonia caused by bacteria in otherwise healthy people younger than 65 usually come on suddenly. They often start during or after an upper respiratory infection, such as influenza or a cold, and may include:

Cough, often producing mucus (sputum) from the lungs. Mucus may be rusty or green or tinged with blood.
Fever, which may be less common in older adults.
Shaking, "teeth-chattering" chills (one time only or many times).
Fast, often shallow, breathing and the feeling of being short of breath.
Chest wall pain that is often made worse by coughing or breathing in.
Fast heartbeat.
Feeling very tired (fatigue) or feeling very weak (malaise).
Nausea and vomiting.
Diarrhea.
Symptoms of pneumonia not caused by bacteria (nonbacterial) include fever, cough, shortness of breath, and little mucus when you cough. They may come on gradually and are often less obvious and less severe than those of bacterial pneumonia. Many people don't know that they have nonbacterial pneumonia because they do not feel sick.

When symptoms are mild, your doctor may call your condition "walking pneumonia."
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There it is in a nutshell.

I've witnessed bacterial pneumonia with that sudden onset of symptoms.. hubby scared the crap out of me a few years ago. Month in hospital, chest tubes, surgery on lungs, ventilator support.... It's the one time that I truly thought he would die.
Leave it to my husband to make things more difficult... he got a weird virus that only DOGS get as part of that pneumonia.

Sit, roll over, play dead (oh wait.. don't!)

 

[Alex2kMommy]

have you thought about having dh go lay down with him in his bed till he falls asleep? and then if he wakes up in the middle of the night you can go take him back to his bed and lay down with him till he falls back to sleep...that way he can be comforted but yet understand that he has to start sleeping in his own bed...

Yeah. That's how DH gets DS7 to sleep every night.

 

[disneegrl4eva]

well there is another alternative......................................

you sleep in DS3 bed

 

[Alex2kMommy]

I watched a video on how to do that-- instructablesweb site .. .

>>>>shudder <<<<<

I don't think I could do it.

I had a heard enough time using a water pik to clean out/flush someone's ears.. ewwww.

Weren't you a nurse???

I actually saw an Oprah show where this doc (Dr. Oz?) was talking about basic maintenance of the body for good health, and he was recommending using a neti pot to flush the sinuses like once a month (even when you didn't have a sinus problem.) He had a woman from the audience come up and demo the neti pot, and she said it didn't hurt at all (it was warmed saline water), actually felt kind of nice. And you just blow your nose afterward to get the excess water (and any other impurities) out, it's supposed to be really good for clearing the sinuses.

A friend of mine years ago had recurring sinus infections, and finally she had one that different antibiotics weren't able to clear. So somewhere she heard about flushing the sinuses and she tried it. I don't know what she used, but she said it drained out of her mouth (on TV they told the woman to tilt her head slightly to one side, and it drained out the other nostril) and all kinds of uckies came out!

 

[Alex2kMommy]

ok andrea applied for 3 different positions....one was through a pharmacuetical company, the golf course and this internet company...she had interviews with all 3 and all 3 offered her a job...so we went over the pros and cons of each job...money, hours, benefits etc...and due to childcare issues she decided to go with the golf course position because it allows her to work on sat. work 3 days a week, and she would still qualify for some of the benefits she has currently....then she received a call from the internet company today (which is the one she really wanted) and she told them that due to childcare issues she couldnt take the job...they basically really want her and are willing to work with her to accomodate her needs as best they can...so she is going to work for both for awhile...she applied for childcare assistance but the program is really full and she cant get in to apply until dec...so right now she is just going to do the best she can just to help her build up some savings and stuff...

Wow that's awesome! I bet that was a big boost to her esteem, too, that's so cool! So is the BH paying anything to help support the kids yet? I hope so, and yet I suspect not.

 

[Alex2kMommy]

well there is another alternative......................................

you sleep in DS3 bed

I have thought of that, how sad is that...

 

[disneegrl4eva]

Wow that's awesome! I bet that was a big boost to her esteem, too, that's so cool! So is the BH paying anything to help support the kids yet? I hope so, and yet I suspect not.

meh here and there but not much let me tell you

I have thought of that, how sad is that...

well you cant keep getting head butted and kicked...hes gonna keep growing and the pain will get worse

 

[funnygarcia]

Sleeping bag on the floor of our bedroom helped get the wiggly bodies out of bed. That way we were still nearby for comfort, and we had the bed to ourselves.

The boys have always shared a room, I think that helped my youngest adjust from our bed to on his own.

With our oldest.. well he never slept in our bed. We caged him in his room with a baby gate starting at age 2. He woke up before us, played in his room until the noises of his toys woke us up

I watched "Jo" do this on Super Nanny.- it works but ya have to be strong.
Each time he gets out of bed, you bring him back to his own, tuck him back and leave. Over and over and over again. No talking, no eye contact. The first time out of bed it's a firm "Time for bed" , after that ... no talking. Yes, he will cry, yes your heart will be bleeding. But in the end, he will stay in his own bed-- and everyone will sleep peacefully!

 

[Alex2kMommy]

meh here and there but not much let me tell you

UFF, that's gotta be so hard. I can't imagine what goes through a dad's head when he divorces: "Gee, I had three children I was supporting, but since I'm not living in the same house, I'll forget that they still need to eat, be clothed and have a roof over their heads..."

At least she's got a good head on her shoulders and is doing what needs doing.

well you cant keep getting head butted and kicked...hes gonna keep growing and the pain will get worse

I know, but I suspect DH has it worse off. If DS3 could sleep inside Daddy's skin, I think he would. DH says DS snuggles up to his chest so tight that he can barely breathe. If he moves away because DS is too warm, DS3 eventually snuggles up tight again. The boy just luuuuuuuvs his Daddy!

 

[funnygarcia]

yep, many years ago I was an LPN.. for a very short time.

The ear washing was on a nursing home floor, it just creeped me out to use something designed for teeth to be in the person's ear.

Otherwise, poo , pee, suctioning, puke.. no problems.

The worse smelly thing I dealt with was when a patient was bleeding out of their rectum. Very unique smell, and a sign that the person will likely die.

Called the doc to ship her off to hospital, he had the nerve to say no because she was a DNR... another nurse called him back and scolded him for not treating a patient. She died within hours after being in hospital.

 

[Alex2kMommy]

I watched "Jo" do this on Super Nanny.- it works but ya have to be strong.
Each time he gets out of bed, you bring him back to his own, tuck him back and leave. Over and over and over again. No talking, no eye contact. The first time out of bed it's a firm "Time for bed" , after that ... no talking. Yes, he will cry, yes your heart will be bleeding. But in the end, he will stay in his own bed-- and everyone will sleep peacefully!

Yes, I've seen that on several of her shows. One poor mom (why is it always the mom who has to do it???) had a very persistent child, I swear she was up at least 35 times that first night, and 15 or 20 the next. It got less and less each time, but holy cannoli, it was heart-breaking as well as exhausting!

The thing is, DH can't stand to hear them cry, he's too soft, so he'll cave. When he isn't home and I take DS7 to bed, he'll ask if I can snuggle and I say no, I need to watch your brother. He is out within minutes. When Daddy is home, DH takes him to bed, they horse around and tickle and giggle awhile, then chat quietly, then they both fall asleep. Eventually DH wakes up and stumbles off to his own bed. (His heart meds that he takes in the evening make him very groggy.)

So on the one hand, he has a great relationship with the boys, they adore him and he them, and this gives DS7 some one-on-one Daddy time. On the other, he should be able to fall asleep on his own. (And he's proven he can, when Daddy's not home.)

So if I'm going to be the bad guy and do all the work to get DS3 out of our bed, I'm not convinced DH will back it up and insist and enforce as well. Part of me feels like this is his issue more than mine, so he needs to be the bad guy and get it done, you know? And besides, I HATE being the bad cop all the time!

 

[Alex2kMommy]

yep, many years ago I was an LPN.. for a very short time.

The ear washing was on a nursing home floor, it just creeped me out to use something designed for teeth to be in the person's ear.

Otherwise, poo , pee, suctioning, puke.. no problems.

The worse smelly thing I dealt with was when a patient was bleeding out of their rectum. Very unique smell, and a sign that the person will likely die.

Called the doc to ship her off to hospital, he had the nerve to say no because she was a DNR... another nurse called him back and scolded him for not treating a patient. She died within hours after being in hospital.

Wow. Nothing motherhood threw at you could top that, huh?

I still hate dealing with all the bodily fluids (and solids), but I can do it. DH couldn't ever suction, it just upset him so much to hear the baby scream and cry. My take on it was "We've got to get that outta there or it's going to cause problems", so I'll make the baby cry for a few minutes and then snuggle him afterward. I'll take a healthy upset baby over one that got sick because I couldn't do what needed doing, you know?]

It's funny, DH is very masculine and very take-charge, excellent person to deal with any crisis. But if his child is upset, it just breaks his heart, that's the worst thing in the world to him. Definitely wears his heart on his sleeve for his boys.

 

[disneegrl4eva]

i hear ya alex....loud and clear.....I dont know your DH but it seems based upon everything you say about him that he is a really devoted husband and dad...maybe what you could do is have a talk with your DH and explain to him exactly what you just said here and let him see what your perspective is on the situation...maybe he just doesnt realize how hard this is on you when he caves in like that.. and tell him that if your going to go through this effort and hardship its not fair to you or DS3 to go through that and have DH cave in like that...it really is cruel if you think about it to have DS3 go through something so heartbreaking just to have DH come in and mess it all up ya know?

 

[Alex2kMommy]

I have to go. DH and I have been going back and forth on what to do for dinner, and now it's getting late, so gotta do SOMETHING.

I'll try to get on a bit later if I can.

 

[Alex2kMommy]

i hear ya alex....loud and clear.....I dont know your DH but it seems based upon everything you say about him that he is a really devoted husband and dad...maybe what you could do is have a talk with your DH and explain to him exactly what you just said here and let him see what your perspective is on the situation...maybe he just doesnt realize how hard this is on you when he caves in like that.. and tell him that if your going to go through this effort and hardship its not fair to you or DS3 to go through that and have DH cave in like that...it really is cruel if you think about it to have DS3 go through something so heartbreaking just to have DH come in and mess it all up ya know?

Yeah, I'll see what he thinks. He hasn't been willing to do it before, knowing how hard it will be (on everyone!) And I'm not going to do it until DH is going to help, or maybe even participate! I know darn well that if I play hardball, DS3 will just go to Daddy and bat his big fat eyelashes full of tears at him, so he'll have to be committed to it, too.

 

[disneegrl4eva]

Yeah, I'll see what he thinks. He hasn't been willing to do it before, knowing how hard it will be (on everyone!) And I'm not going to do it until DH is going to help, or maybe even participate! I know darn well that if I play hardball, DS3 will just go to Daddy and bat his big fat eyelashes full of tears at him, so he'll have to be committed to it, too.

you'll sort it alex I know thank god i dont have to worry about dinner tonight...yay for french onion soup and Im not even hungry so I dont know if Im even gonna eat it tonight

 

[tinkermell]

Well sorry I didn't make it for dinner Lynn. DD had a dentist appointment and we ended up going to Panera's for soup. Baked potato.....it was pretty good.

 

[eatmypixiedust]

Oh no! A store throat? I bet there's a Juicy purse stuck in there!

I caught a bug from DS3 on our trip (long story, in case you haven't heard about our adventures in flying.) Anyway, I've been croaking like a frog for about a week now, at least when the voice hasn't disappeared entirely. The boys enjoyed that at DL, doing stuff they knew would get them into trouble, then ignoring my "angry mom" face and finger-snapping. DS7 exclaimed most innocently, "But I didn't know what you were trying to say!" Yeah, right, bucko!

So went to the doc today, and she says it's bronchitis maybe on the way to "walking pneumonia". I have no idea what that means other than I bark or have no sound at all, and cough a lot. And now I have drugs to take.

for the Juicy purse comment.

I'm sorry you are sick! That's not good that your DS7 and DS3 gave you a hard time. I hope you feel better!!