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Actually if you kept reading you'd see that there is an option to purchase the unlimited version. Lol we dealt with this many pages ago:)

We're on a carousel and ain't none of us is getting off. ;)

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Actually if you kept reading you'd see that there is an option to purchase the unlimited version. Lol we dealt with this many pages ago:)

Yes, we were just there. You can absolutely purchase the unlimited express pass. Actually I don't know if it is offered online anymore, it may be a "only at the park thing"

We were offered that option but figured we didn't need it since we don't repeat many rides. The ones that we did repeat we simply did stand by early when there was no line and went back and used our express pass later for the second ride.
 

Granny square said:
Actually if you kept reading you'd see that there is an option to purchase the unlimited version. Lol we dealt with this many pages ago:)

I haven't bothered to wade through 56 pages so thanks for the update. Is that a new option? Either way, with a family of 5 it is cheaper for us to stay onsite vs buying a pass. Tried it once way back in 06? And didn't like the limitation so I understand why people are frustrated at the current 3 pass limit.
 
I haven't bothered to wade through 56 pages so thanks for the update. Is that a new option? Either way, with a family of 5 it is cheaper for us to stay onsite vs buying a pass. Tried it once way back in 06? And didn't like the limitation so I understand why people are frustrated at the current 3 pass limit.

I'm sorry. Teasing at how off task this thread has been. I thought like you did and was proven wrong!
 
Postal68 said:
actually the reason this conversation is so many pages long is because of what I've added to the conversation

Delusions of grandeur!

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butterflygirl812 said:
I'm just sad for the people having such negative experiences....mostly for the children in their families. Children are so incredibly perceptive and their Disney experience will be based on the attitudes of the adults that they travel with. There aren't many adults on this board that I would want to travel with, let alone send children with.

Please don't worry about my daughter. We had an amazing, magical vacation in October. It is possible to voice concerns on message board and be able to leave the message board stuff online only while you have a magical vacation.
 
Actually, at Universal the option that offsite guests purchase doesn't compare with what onsite guests get with their room keys. Offsite guests get ONE go round on each ride, while onsite can ride FOTL over and over and over. So it seems Disney might give FP+ to onsite while offsite will have to buy into FP+. So in the end it might be apples to apples.

For us, FP+ is the only reason we are staying on property this trip and if we were limited to 3, we would not be as likely to revisit in the future. Universal makes staying onsite a real perk.

Agree!
 
Yes, we were just there. You can absolutely purchase the unlimited express pass. Actually I don't know if it is offered online anymore, it may be a "only at the park thing"

We were offered that option but figured we didn't need it since we don't repeat many rides. The ones that we did repeat we simply did stand by early when there was no line and went back and used our express pass later for the second ride.

You can purchase the ticket and unlimited express pass together online, or just purchase it separately at the parks.
 
That is just an assumption. Disney hasn't said that pre-booking will only be for onsite guests. It could just as easily be that onsite guests get 60 days + 10, like they get +10 for ADRs, while those offsite just get the 60 days. There's just no way to know that right now.

Isn't that exactly what I said at the beginning of my post you are replying to - I began it with "it is assumed"? :scratchin

I just love it when people post to argue against a post they essentially agree with in the end. :lmao:
 
After reading this persons post... I think they do have to be rude, it is just the type of person they are. They take pleasure in being brash and rude to everyone to is trying to say anything that is against their way of thinking, there is nothing you can say that is going to stop this person from acting this way :)

They don’t like to hear other peoples opinion… because it is not their option it is wrong.

I pity people like this. And not that is not from a Disney apologist but as a person that does not see the point in arguing just for the sake of arguing.
::yes::
 
Ok,my brain hurts after reading all that.

I'll throw my two cents in.

I feel the resort category, or on site vs off site, is, and should be, separate from park admission. If the same amount is paid to get into the parks then everyone should have the same perks. Everyone should have access to FP + with the same number of FP's they can reserve beforehand.

I, for one, will be sorely disappointed if Disney starts charging for perks like extra FP's a la Universal and their FOTL pass. I'm sorry, I find it smarmy and an example of disgusting materialistic narcisssim. Sorry people, you're all at a theme park. Not a single one of you is better than anyone else. Everyone should have the same access to the parks. That is why I loved legacy FP so much. Everyone was eligible for it. It didn't completely cut out lines but it drastically reduced them.

As far as the on site/off site debate good god people. Give it a rest. Some people like to stay off site, some like on site. Some people like the DP, some don't. Some like the buses, some don't. For me personally, I like staying on site because I want it to look like Mickey threw up in my room otherwise I don't feel like I am actually at Disney World when I am in my room. I want my room to match the location. I think the DP is a rip off. I would never eat nearly that much food. If they had some sort of dining plan that included only dinners or something like that I might be interested and just go to the grocery store and put food in the fridge for the other meals. As far as the buses are concerned I like them. They aren't perfect, it's true. But I have always found them very convenient in my meager experience and I like the convenience of not having to drive everywhere.

But that's just me. YMMV.
 
Lol, so you tell everyone to give it a rest ...but make sure you state your preference. Too funny.

Resort guests already get more for their park ticket admission. They get extra hours. Can't see this as different.
 
Lol, so you tell everyone to give it a rest ...but make sure you state your preference. Too funny.

Resort guests already get more for their park ticket admission. They get extra hours. Can't see this as different.

I meant give it a rest with insulting other peoples choices.

I don't even really think EMH for onsite guests is particularly fair. But it sure beats charging people for FOTL passes.
 
Ok,my brain hurts after reading all that.

I'll throw my two cents in.

I feel the resort category, or on site vs off site, is, and should be, separate from park admission. If the same amount is paid to get into the parks then everyone should have the same perks. Everyone should have access to FP + with the same number of FP's they can reserve beforehand.

I, for one, will be sorely disappointed if Disney starts charging for perks like extra FP's a la Universal and their FOTL pass. I'm sorry, I find it smarmy and an example of disgusting materialistic narcisssim. Sorry people, you're all at a theme park. Not a single one of you is better than anyone else. Everyone should have the same access to the parks. That is why I loved legacy FP so much. Everyone was eligible for it. It didn't completely cut out lines but it drastically reduced them.

As far as the on site/off site debate good god people. Give it a rest. Some people like to stay off site, some like on site. Some people like the DP, some don't. Some like the buses, some don't. For me personally, I like staying on site because I want it to look like Mickey threw up in my room otherwise I don't feel like I am actually at Disney World when I am in my room. I want my room to match the location. I think the DP is a rip off. I would never eat nearly that much food. If they had some sort of dining plan that included only dinners or something like that I might be interested and just go to the grocery store and put food in the fridge for the other meals. As far as the buses are concerned I like them. They aren't perfect, it's true. But I have always found them very convenient in my meager experience and I like the convenience of not having to drive everywhere.

But that's just me. YMMV.
That just about says it all,and didn't take me forever to read it!! Very well said,and I absolutely agree!:thumbsup2
 
actually the reason this conversation is so many pages long is because of what I've added to the conversation
~LOL. It's weird but I agree. :rotfl:

and, you'll be happy to know that as much of an offsite advocate that I am. I just made a ressie for Fort Wilderness for Christmas Week of 2014. My wife said she would like to spend next CHristmas at Disney because it's been so long since we have done it. My kids finally are old enough that they don't believe in Santa and I spent one of my best Christmas' in my younger years at Fort Wilderness.

Now will we actually use the ressie or cancel and rent a house will be the big question?

I just wanted to make sure we had a booking at the Fort because they disappear quick around Christmas
~Yay! This is just fabulous! Postal, I am so proud of you for turning that frown upside down. It's all about perspective. Whether you decide to stay onsite or offsite -- you'll be spending a magical Christmas at Disney with your loved ones. Anyway, just make the right decision for you and family. That's all that matters! :goodvibes

Absolutely. It was one of best Christmases ever. It's so much fun there and cute with all the people decorating their sites and golf carts.
~I can't believe my eyes. Did you actually use the words "fun" & "cute"?!? Awww, your adorable. I totally heart you. :hug:
 
Turn the Page said:
I meant give it a rest with insulting other peoples choices.

I don't even really think EMH for onsite guests is particularly fair. But it sure beats charging people for FOTL passes.

How is it UN fair? Everyone has the exact same option to book an on-site hotel and get the same access to EMH.

And Disney is a business who's goal is making money...why wouldn't they offer incentives to guests who are paying them more money by staying in their hotels?

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How is it UN fair? Everyone has the exact same option to book an on-site hotel and get the same access to EMH.

And Disney is a business who's goal is making money...why wouldn't they offer incentives to guests who are paying them more money by staying in their hotels?

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I'm with you there.

In the UK, the FP system at any theme park is a paid privilege. I have never had the spare cash to pay for that privilege any time I have visited a theme park.

Disney could charge for FP, and to be honest, that would be fair. If they offer a system that provides FP in whatever form to some or all of it's customers for free, that's a huge bonus. (and I'm hugely grateful for FP, whether I'll be able to use FP-, FP+ or whatever). If they choose not to offer that, or change what they offer or who they offer it to... :confused3 That's life. You get what you pay for.
 
How is it UN fair? Everyone has the exact same option to book an on-site hotel and get the same access to EMH.

And Disney is a business who's goal is making money...why wouldn't they offer incentives to guests who are paying them more money by staying in their hotels?

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I think the difference between you and I on this issue is that I see the resorts and parks as separate entities. Since everyone pays the same amount for park tickets I feel no one should get more time in the parks or access to more rides in the parks as anyone else. If people choose to stay onsite, for whatever reason, they get perks such as better pool, Disney themes, access to DP, transportation, etc. If they stay at the GF, Poly, or CR they even have a monorail right outside their door to take them to EPCOT and MK. Those are perks that should be, and are, tied to resort tier. I don't think the parks should be included in that.
 
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