Uhm....Bahamas is now requiring vaccinations for all passengers over 12..

[ChinaDenver]

Yes it mentions non-revenue passengers. However it doesn't say they don't need to be vaccinated, it says that they adhere to whatever protocols were previously negotiated between the cruise line and government. We don't know what those are but I would wager that vaccination rates of non-revenue crew and passengers was already a part of their agreements. This also does not define a non-revenue passenger. Those are intended to cover employees who are not "crew", such as rotating variety acts, or vacation club sales people. Not children of paying passengers. The moment that kid buys a drink or puts a credit in a video arcade, they are a revenue passenger.

That said, you are correct, it COULD be interpreted that way.

Very good points. I suppose it all depends on whatever the existing Disney/Bahamas agreement is.

 

[DCLMP]

Seems like they are doing exactly that.

No, as I stated in the previous post but I'll move on.

 

[jrapps]

Let's just all hope that when we wake up tomorrow, there are emails from DCL explaining exactly what they intend to do.

 

[DCLMP]

Very good points. I suppose it all depends on whatever the existing Disney/Bahamas agreement is.

I'd be surprised if Disney was banned from Castaway. There are very few people on the island that don't work for Disney. It really makes no sense.

 

[tvguy]

I hope you are right - it would mean cancelling 2 ships for 2 months (at least). But they need to act quickly - and that is definitely not their MO.

Well, maybe in this case DCL acted too quickly and should have delayed the restarts. They were much slower than other lines in making decisions, and I have to think they HAD to know that ports closing to the un-vaccinated was a possibility........ even if it was a slim chance. Like I posted earlier, my neighbors January 2022 cruise on another line was canceled a month ago because the line felt the sailing conditions were not firmed up enough yet for them to move forward with the cruise.

 

[Clojel]

Let's just all hope that when we wake up tomorrow, there are emails from DCL explaining exactly what they intend to do.

Yes. This. I really hope DCL is quick to respond… for once!!

 

[tvguy]

No, as I stated in the previous post but I'll move on.

Which post number? I must have missed it and would like to read it. Thanks

 

[sethschroeder]

I'd be surprised if Disney was banned from Castaway. There are very few people on the island that don't work for Disney. It really makes no sense.

Except they made a point of calling out private stops. So regardless they are looking to doing it.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

I don't know. It really depends on how much of the passenger load is unvaccinated. We don't know their percentages. At this point, anyone unvaccinated cannot be full vaccinated by 9/3, so it could cause sufficient cancel to bring them below viable sailing.

While some of the costs scale, many don't, particularly fuel.

If someone gets a J&J vaccine tomorrow, they would be considered fully vaccinated on 9/3. "Fully vaccinated" means 2 weeks after the last (or only) injection.

Oops. Just read all the posts and see this won't help.

 

[tvguy]

I'd be surprised if Disney was banned from Castaway. There are very few people on the island that don't work for Disney. It really makes no sense.

But many commute by boat on a daily basis from other islands in the Bahamas. It makes perfect sense if you are trying to reduce exposure risk.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

If someone gets a J&J vaccine tomorrow, they would be considered fully vaccinated on 9/3. "Fully vaccinated" means 2 weeks after the last (or only) injection.

This still excludes your 12-17 cohort.

 

[DLgal]

I'd be surprised if Disney was banned from Castaway. There are very few people on the island that don't work for Disney. It really makes no sense.

It's not their island. They lease it from the Bahamian government. Therefore it is subject to Bahamian laws.

 

[sethschroeder]

This still excludes your 12-17 cohort.

A fairly small minority on DCL as you would have some 12-17 already vaccinated as well.

It stinks but you are talking about a handful of parties on each cruise and only until October since by then you could be fully vaccinated with other options.

 

[jujubiee4]

Except they made a point of calling out private stops. So regardless they are looking to doing it.

Exactly. Whose island is it? Regardless who is working on it.

 

[jrapps]

I'd be surprised if Disney was banned from Castaway. There are very few people on the island that don't work for Disney. It really makes no sense.

Regardless of whether you feel it makes sense or not, they have the right to govern their country as they see fit and they have passed this. Why do these conversations always veer to opinions about what is right/wrong/smart/dumb/etc. There is no carve out in the rule they passed for Castaway Cay compared to anywhere else.

At this point, the conversation is all about what will Disney do. Cancel, don't cancel, require vaccines, join NCL in lawsuit, etc.

 

[sethschroeder]

Cancel, don't cancel, require vaccines, join NCL in lawsuit, etc.

Move all guests to the Halcyon.

 

[tvguy]

Regardless of whether you feel it makes sense or not, they have the right to govern their country as they see fit and they have passed this. Why do these conversations always veer to opinions about what is right/wrong/smart/dumb/etc. There is no carve out in the rule they passed for Castaway Cay compared to anywhere else.

At this point, the conversation is all about what will Disney do. Cancel, don't cancel, require vaccines, join NCL in lawsuit, etc.

And many other cruise lines have their private islands in the Bahamas and today's order impacts them stopping there too.

 

[DCLMP]

Except they made a point of calling out private stops. So regardless they are looking to doing it.

Yeah, most likely and it seems many people on here will be happy if they do. Strange time to say the least.

 

[jrapps]

And many other cruise lines have their private islands in the Bahamas and today's order impacts them stopping there too.

Yes, and each and every one of them either already required vaccines before today (Carnival, NCL) or decided today to require them (MSC, Royal).

Disney is the last one to make a decision (as ususal)

 

[HiStitch626]

I'm not sure they could do a 3 night cruise from NY or Boston that stops at CC. Maybe not even a 4 night.

I think you’re right. It was two whole days each way just to get to port Canaveral from NYC.