Two ships collided in Cozumel this morning...

[mevelandry]

We went there 2017. Almost all excursions were cancelled due to rough seas. We stayed on the ship since our excursion was cancelled. They were able to tender people to GC. I get seasick pretty easily, every time we cross the gulfstream leaving PC on the first night I feel ill(ginger candy helps tremendously with this, btw). It didn't feel like the waves were rough when looking at them and it didn't feel rough at all. It was the first time we stayed on the ship at a port, we had a lot of fun. Another ship tried to do whatever they do to be able to tender before us. They had trouble and finally gave up and left the area. We leave next month for another WC on the Fantasy. I already have my bonine, seabands, and 60 pieces of ginger candy. Hoping we can actually get off the ship this time. Hope you have a great trip!

Thank you.

I think I would at least attempt to go on land if they offer water shuttle...but I’d take my ginger pills first.

 

[mevelandry]

We'll be in Grand Cayman in January as well. Luckily, this is one port we booked an excursion through the cruise line so no worry about that, but I'd hate to miss Cayman! Tender ports are tricky!

We love Cayman so much. It’s our favorite port.

 

[ivanp91]

Now I couldn't see that dock location like I could see the Georgetown dock from our villa on seven mile beach.

The other anchor location is at Spott's Beach, which is around a 15 minute drive from Georgetown. We had to use it just last month on the Wonder's EBPC supposedly due to strong swell (meanwhile 3 other ships anchored in Georgetown before and after us without hassle...)

 

[ChicosWife]

Apparently currents were also pretty strong. The guests experienced rough seas the night before.

Hmmmm, the night before is well before this happened though. The seas don't look so rough that it would push the ships together.

 

[cgolf]

Surprised by the reaction to this, maybe because its Carnival. While I will never sail them due to the reviews of people close to us, I am guessing this will be found to be due to wind and currents. The local pilot was onboard, as a source of up to date information. People forget that the Dream backed into a concrete pier tie off point in the Bahamas not too long ago, probably for similar reasons.

I think people sometimes forget that these ships are like driving a big van on a windy day vs a corvette. The van will get blown all over the road while the low to the road and very aerodynamic corvette will track straight. Unfortunately there is no way to make a ship not be impacted by the wind, even the older smaller ships.

 

[Ccll4]

Hmmmm, the night before is well before this happened though. The seas don't look so rough that it would push the ships together.

Currents as pointed out by @Capt_BJ

 

[mevelandry]

Hmmmm, the night before is well before this happened though. The seas don't look so rough that it would push the ships together.

Just stating the seas were not calm to begin with.

I’m not an expert but I don’t know that currents are that easy to spot, nor to predict.

EDIT: See @Capt_BJ for the complete answer.

 

[belle032]

Hmmmm, the night before is well before this happened though. The seas don't look so rough that it would push the ships together.

I don’t mean to be rude, but are you a ship’s captain or have more experience with ocean winds and currents beyond what you’re seen briefly in a video? I thought @Capt_BJ gave a great detailed explanation about what could have been happening at that time.

Maybe it was winds, currents, operator error, a mistake, or a combination of all of the above, but accidents do happen. No one was hurt and cruising goes on.

Again, don’t mean to be rude and it’s just my opinion, but I doubt you’d be making these judgments if these were 2 Disney ships.

 

[Capt_BJ]

In an interview after the ship reached a US port the Captain/Master said the ship experienced currents & winds that caused the incident . . .

You won't see much on the surface from a current without a very 'trained' eye <talking ocean ... not rivers> .... and ALTHO currents in port areas ARE predictable and those predictions are published and available to mariners (ship drivers) and {today available on line at places like: https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/tide_predictions.html}
the problem is: just like weather predictions, SOMETIMES the actual conditions don't match the prediction and that can happen at the cruise piers in Coz' to an EXTREME!!!! Been there ...... seen it .....

As I believe I mentioned previously ... when bringing a ship to the pier in Coz' more than once, EACH TIME I was warned by the PILOT that the current could turn 180 degrees and change strength significantly in a matter of minutes and I/WE had to be ready for this ......... it is very difficult to be ready for this!!! An airplane pilot experiencing a change like this hits the gas and goes around for another try. This happens FAST on an airplane ...... what you see here is an example of it happening SLOW .... PAINFULLY SLOW ..... on a ship. HIT THE GAS on a cruise ship and you might feel it in 45 seconds .... MAYBE

Been there and done this ....... if you avoid contact you feel VERY relieved!!!!!!!!

 

[hrhdhd]

Just a note that an MSC ship (the Grandiosa) hit a pier in Palermo, Italy today. These things happen!

 

[mevelandry]

Just a note that an MSC ship (the Grandiosa) hit a pier in Palermo, Italy today. These things happen!

Yep!

 

[ChicosWife]

I don’t mean to be rude, but are you a ship’s captain or have more experience with ocean winds and currents beyond what you’re seen briefly in a video? I thought @Capt_BJ gave a great detailed explanation about what could have been happening at that time.

Maybe it was winds, currents, operator error, a mistake, or a combination of all of the above, but accidents do happen. No one was hurt and cruising goes on.

Again, don’t mean to be rude and it’s just my opinion, but I doubt you’d be making these judgments if these were 2 Disney ships.

I hadn't seen @Capt_BJ response. As far as your last statement, I guess we'll never know what I may or may not have said if it had been two Disney ships, but I do think it's presumptuous of you to make this statement.