Two Nook Questions....

[azdizzymom]

I have two questions about my nook. I have tried to search and can't figure out how to do these (also called B&N and spent 30 minutes on hold before giving up). I did email and got auto response about how busy and it would take time to respond.

1. I entered a gift card to use for ebooks on my son's account. It is charging the default credit card instead of removing the price of book from gift card. I tried to remove default credit card but then it won't let you purchase. The gift card shows a $30 balance.

2. How do you lend books? As an example I purchased Legacy by Danielle Steel. I was going to lend it to a friend to read but can't find the way to may it accessible to her.

THANKS!!!!!

 

[mapmakerj]

1. Are you sure the CC is being charged? I have a GC on my acct. and every time I order a book it says in fine print that any GC on the acct. will be used before your default CC is charged. Sometimes it takes several days for the amount of purchase to come off the GC. I have had them take anywhere from 2 to as many as 6 days to post.
2. I haven't lent any books out yet, but I know that not all books can be lent. You would need to first verify if there is a lend me icon next to the book listed in your library. After that, I am not exactly sure how the process works.
FYI: I just looked at the B&N website and the book you are trying to lend does not have the lend me icon and is therefor not lendable.

 

[azdizzymom]

1. Are you sure the CC is being charged? I have a GC on my acct. and every time I order a book it says in fine print that any GC on the acct. will be used before your default CC is charged. Sometimes it takes several days for the amount of purchase to come off the GC. I have had them take anywhere from 2 to as many as 6 days to post.
2. I haven't lent any books out yet, but I know that not all books can be lent. You would need to first verify if there is a lend me icon next to the book listed in your library. After that, I am not exactly sure how the process works.
FYI: I just looked at the B&N website and the book you are trying to lend does not have the lend me icon and is therefor not lendable.

THANKS!!! I am slow and admit it!
Just signed into my sons account and he had ordered book on Sunday and amount didn't leave gift card so I figured credit card charged. It was removed from gift card. Didn't know it could take a few days. So now I know and thanks for helping me with that.

IDK only certain books were able to be lent. Thanks for clarifying that too. I wondered where the lend icon was but now know it shouldn't be there. Will watch when I buy books (which is rare I find all the freebies) to see if they are lendable.

THANKS A BUNCH!!!

 

[DVCLiz]

I'll be interested after a year or so to hear people's reactions to the Lend Me feature. I have a Kindle but Amazon has enabled the same function for us now. When I searched my library of approximately 350 books, only about 10% were lendable - and of those, only a handful (5 or 6) were newer or bestsellers.

It's a feature that sounds great!! Until you realize it's set by the publishers and most of them are just not on board with this feature. And why should they be? It costs them a sale.

I think the thing to remember is that a book that is under copyright protection is going to cost somebody money somewhere along the line. Either we pay for it outright or we pay taxes to support a library system that will loan it to us.

 

[3boymthr]

I'll be interested after a year or so to hear people's reactions to the Lend Me feature. I have a Kindle but Amazon has enabled the same function for us now. When I searched my library of approximately 350 books, only about 10% were lendable - and of those, only a handful (5 or 6) were newer or bestsellers.

It's a feature that sounds great!! Until you realize it's set by the publishers and most of them are just not on board with this feature. And why should they be? It costs them a sale.

I think the thing to remember is that a book that is under copyright protection is going to cost somebody money somewhere along the line. Either we pay for it outright or we pay taxes to support a library system that will loan it to us.

I find it to be a great big waste of time. There just aren't that many books that can be lent and of the amount of time for which they can be lent is not always enough time. Plus you can only lend books once.

 

[Kathi OD]

I'll be interested after a year or so to hear people's reactions to the Lend Me feature. I have a Kindle but Amazon has enabled the same function for us now. When I searched my library of approximately 350 books, only about 10% were lendable - and of those, only a handful (5 or 6) were newer or bestsellers.

It's a feature that sounds great!! Until you realize it's set by the publishers and most of them are just not on board with this feature. And why should they be? It costs them a sale.

I think the thing to remember is that a book that is under copyright protection is going to cost somebody money somewhere along the line. Either we pay for it outright or we pay taxes to support a library system that will loan it to us.

This is what I don't get... the library system also "costs" them a sale, and maybe many more than allowing lending between individuals would. People who are borrowing the book from the library certainly aren't buying it (although I have been known to purchase a book after borrowing it from the library). The library buys a couple copies of a book and then makes it available for many thousands of people. I know that personally I've been number 200-something on the wait list at the library for a bestseller more than a few times. I don't think an individual would be lending an ebook to more than 5 people.

So why would a publisher care if a book was lent through a library system or through an individual? In both cases, the book is getting exposure for their author.

 

[DVCLiz]

This is what I don't get... the library system also "costs" them a sale, and maybe many more than allowing lending between individuals would. People who are borrowing the book from the library certainly aren't buying it (although I have been known to purchase a book after borrowing it from the library). The library buys a couple copies of a book and then makes it available for many thousands of people. I know that personally I've been number 200-something on the wait list at the library for a bestseller more than a few times. I don't think an individual would be lending an ebook to more than 5 people.

So why would a publisher care if a book was lent through a library system or through an individual? In both cases, the book is getting exposure for their author.

I'm sure the answer is money. Although a library may buy a copy of a book and have it read by 100 peoeple, the library is also a much higher volume buyer - and the pricing structure or licensing agreement may reflect that as well. It's been many years since I worked as a librarian so I'm not up on my information but I'm sure there are also cases where libraries buy books that don't have that much use.

Most libraries don't buy multiple copies of bestsellers - they rent them. I'm sure the pricing structure is worked out so that it is favorable to the publisher and also to the community supporting the library with tax dollars. Anyway, it's a whole different structure than an individual buying a book.

 

[sissy_ib]

The lend me feature is useless to me as I don't know anyone else who has a nook. I know tons of people with different e-readers, but I am the only one with the nook.
And charges for the books tend to show up days later. I have a charge that showed up today for a book I purchased on the 10th. I was very confused as I am out of the US right now, so I know I could not have purchased anything. I had to go look up my account to see they just charged me for this book and another and there is one more they have not charged me for yet.
Not really complaining tho, I love my nook color and probably wouldn't use the lend me option even if I had friends who had one.

 

[manning]

This is what I don't get... the library system also "costs" them a sale, and maybe many more than allowing lending between individuals would. People who are borrowing the book from the library certainly aren't buying it (although I have been known to purchase a book after borrowing it from the library). The library buys a couple copies of a book and then makes it available for many thousands of people. I know that personally I've been number 200-something on the wait list at the library for a bestseller more than a few times. I don't think an individual would be lending an ebook to more than 5 people.

So why would a publisher care if a book was lent through a library system or through an individual? In both cases, the book is getting exposure for their author.

The library has to pay the publisher a license fee for every copy lent. If they want to make the same title available at the same time there has to be multiple fees for it. IE if there is one license then the next person has to wait until the rental period expires. Just like bringing a book back. If there was another license available the next person can rent it.

The publisher comes out ahead. It eliminates the cost of printing and shipping.

 

[Kathi OD]

The library has to pay the publisher a license fee for every copy lent. If they want to make the same title available at the same time there has to be multiple fees for it. IE if there is one license then the next person has to wait until the rental period expires. Just like bringing a book back. If there was another license available the next person can rent it.

The publisher comes out ahead. It eliminates the cost of printing and shipping.

Are you referring to digital copies? I was thinking of "real" books. I know our library only has one "copy" of their digital books, but depending on the title, many "real" book copies. So I understand the idea behind not lending a title until the first one comes back.

Since the owner of the digital book on a Nook doesn't have access to the book while it is lent out to someone else, I'm not sure that I see the difference. OTOH, maybe I'm just not getting what you're saying.

 

[Kathi OD]

I'm sure the answer is money. Although a library may buy a copy of a book and have it read by 100 peoeple, the library is also a much higher volume buyer - and the pricing structure or licensing agreement may reflect that as well. It's been many years since I worked as a librarian so I'm not up on my information but I'm sure there are also cases where libraries buy books that don't have that much use.

Most libraries don't buy multiple copies of bestsellers - they rent them. I'm sure the pricing structure is worked out so that it is favorable to the publisher and also to the community supporting the library with tax dollars. Anyway, it's a whole different structure than an individual buying a book.

Thanks! This makes perfect sense to me and was something I never would have thought of on my own.

I can see where a library would get a break from a publisher because of the volume of purchases they make. I can also see the value of renting books that the library knows will be in demand for a short while.

 

[DVCLiz]

Thanks! This makes perfect sense to me and was something I never would have thought of on my own.

I can see where a library would get a break from a publisher because of the volume of purchases they make. I can also see the value of renting books that the library knows will be in demand for a short while.

When you absolutely, positively have to know, ask a librarian!!!

 

[dhardawa]

If you use Calibre to upload books to your Nook, you can download the Nook for PC application which will download all your books to your computer. Then, you can email the book file to your friend and she can use Calibre to upload it to her Nook. It is VERY simple to work around the lend feature. The way I see it, if I bought the physical book, I could lend it to anyone I wanted. I shouldn't be limited because I bought it electronically, especially when their profit margin is higher for e-books.

 

[manning]

Are you referring to digital copies? I was thinking of "real" books. I know our library only has one "copy" of their digital books, but depending on the title, many "real" book copies. So I understand the idea behind not lending a title until the first one comes back.

Since the owner of the digital book on a Nook doesn't have access to the book while it is lent out to someone else, I'm not sure that I see the difference. OTOH, maybe I'm just not getting what you're saying.

Digital

 

[DVCLiz]

If you use Calibre to upload books to your Nook, you can download the Nook for PC application which will download all your books to your computer. Then, you can email the book file to your friend and she can use Calibre to upload it to her Nook. It is VERY simple to work around the lend feature. The way I see it, if I bought the physical book, I could lend it to anyone I wanted. I shouldn't be limited because I bought it electronically, especially when their profit margin is higher for e-books.

I certainly respect your right to "see" it any way you want, but the fact remains that it is still illegal. When you buy a physical book, you buy a tangible product that is yours to lend, sell, give or destroy at will. When you purchase an ebook, you are buying the right to download that particular electronic file to your particular device - no more, no less. You are NOT buying the right to give or sell it as you do with a physical book.

Again, it's your decision but it definitely IS different and one is not legal.

 

[dhardawa]

I certainly respect your right to "see" it any way you want, but the fact remains that it is still illegal. When you buy a physical book, you buy a tangible product that is yours to lend, sell, give or destroy at will. When you purchase an ebook, you are buying the right to download that particular electronic file to your particular device - no more, no less. You are NOT buying the right to give or sell it as you do with a physical book.

Again, it's your decision but it definitely IS different and one is not legal.

Yeah, I don't care. I bought it, it is mine to do with as I please just the same as if it were a physical book. Now, I'm not going to run and load it to a file sharing website or anything, but if a friend wants to read "my" book, I will allow him/her to just as I would with a physical book.

 

[DVCLiz]

Yeah, I don't care. I bought it, it is mine to do with as I please just the same as if it were a physical book. Now, I'm not going to run and load it to a file sharing website or anything, but if a friend wants to read "my" book, I will allow him/her to just as I would with a physical book.

Again, I respect your right to have that as an opinion, but the fact is that what you bought was NOT yours to do with as you please. What you bought was the right to download an electronic file once, to a specific electronic device.

This is something that people just can't or won't understand about this new technology. It's a shame because their unwillingness to follow the rules makes it harder for everyone in the long term and causes publishers and companies to hold more tightly to their rules and regulations.

 

[CoolDisneyCat]

I belong to a Nook group on facebook that shares books between members. It's called "I have a Nook and I'm willing to share". I've borrowed several books and lent several.

To lend a book, you need the person's email address. After you click on the "lend me" icon, you enter the address. Easy!

 

[Scurvy]

Yeah, I don't care. I bought it, it is mine to do with as I please just the same as if it were a physical book. Now, I'm not going to run and load it to a file sharing website or anything, but if a friend wants to read "my" book, I will allow him/her to just as I would with a physical book.

In the case of digital downloads, you aren't buying the physical book. You're buying the license to download it and use it yourself on your Nook or Nook app, so it isn't actually yours to do with as you please. However, there is a legal way to lend someone your copy of an "unlendable" Nook book: Loan them the actual Nook just the way you would with a physical book so they can read the book on there.

 

[DVCLiz]

In the case of digital downloads, you aren't buying the physical book. You're buying the license to download it and use it yourself on your Nook or Nook app, so it isn't actually yours to do with as you please. However, there is a legal way to lend someone your copy of an "unlendable" Nook book: Loan them the actual Nook just the way you would with a physical book so they can read the book on there.

Yeah, she doesn't care, Scurvy.

Your point is a great one, though, and as many of us upgrade to newer models we find ourselves with an extra ereader or two. I personally have 5 Kindles and only three family members, so I have a couple of extras and I have loaned one out to a friend so she could try before she bought.