Tween Club

nicolet

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I know some of the rules changed for the kids clubs. I was wondering if my child who is 9.5 will be able to go here. Our friends son will be 10. Just wondering if they can go here and hang out given their ages.

Do you still register them under their age appropriate age?
 
I know some of the rules changed for the kids clubs. I was wondering if my child who is 9.5 will be able to go here. Our friends son will be 10. Just wondering if they can go here and hang out given their ages.

Do you still register them under their age appropriate age?


9.5 and 10 year olds will be together in the kids clubs (Oceaneers Club and Oceaneers Lab). The tween club (Edge) is for ages 11-13:thumbsup2
 
Yes, you register kids under their correct, appropriate ages and make any changes after boarding.
 
Do you still register them under their age appropriate age?

Only the kids age 3-10 need to get registered. 'Tweens' and 'Teens' don't need to be registered- they can come and go as they please.

My daughter is 13 and I remember registering her on our last cruise when she was 11 but then couldn't find the place online to register her so I call DCL and they told me about not needing to register 'Tweens'.
 

I guess my question is will they be allowed in the tween club even though they are registered for the Oceaneers Club and Oceaneers Lab.
 
Only the kids age 3-10 need to get registered. 'Tweens' and 'Teens' don't need to be registered- they can come and go as they please.

My daughter is 13 and I remember registering her on our last cruise when she was 11 but then couldn't find the place online to register her so I call DCL and they told me about not needing to register 'Tweens'.

You are totally correct--but OP's kids will be 9 and 10.

Older kids just go to the appropriate area and "confirm participation" which means they look on the list and make sure that the cabin listed on the info sheet the CM has is the correct cabin number; that way, they get any reminder notices the CMs send out.
 
I guess my question is will they be allowed in the tween club even though they are registered for the Oceaneers Club and Oceaneers Lab.

While they make individual decisions, I suspect the "bottom line" will be that they are not going to allow a 9 year old in a program intended for ages 11-13. I do know that last week on the Magic, a 10 1/2 year old was denied the ability to be in the tween program with her older brother. The reason given was that if she "needs" to be with her brother, she's obviously not mature enough for the tween program (!?!) She didn't "need" to be with her brother, she wanted to be with him.

The lab kids do sometimes "invade" the space of the older groups, in the same way the Ocean Quest group has "invade the Stack" time. It means that their age group goes to the space of the older group while the older group is not there. For example, the OQ group could be in the arcade or at the sports deck during that time.
 
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I don't think they will be allowed in the tween club if they are not 11 yrs old. On our last cruise my older son was in Ocean Quest (11 yo) but his younger brother (9 yo) was not allowed. Of course it didn't help that his brother ratted him out as being underaged.

PJ
 
Thank you that makes sense. We will have to check things out when they have family time.
 
While they make individual decisions, I suspect the "bottom line" will be that they are not going to allow a 9 year old in a program intended for ages 11-13. I do know that last week on the Magic, a 10 1/2 year old was denied the ability to be in the tween program with her older brother. The reason given was that if she "needs" to be with her brother, she's obviously not mature enough for the tween program (!?!) She didn't "need" to be with her brother, she wanted to be with him.

The lab kids do sometimes "invade" the space of the older groups, in the same way the Ocean Quest group has "invade the Stack" time. It means that their age group goes to the space of the older group while the older group is not there. For example, the OQ group could be in the arcade or at the sports deck during that time.

Yes, that happened to DD last week. I wish that I had thought of the fact that the group is age appropriate for her since she is a young 5th grader but whatever. She was not interested in making flubber yet again so she hung out with us & new friends she made onboard and we cancelled Palo dinner. This was on the Magic. We were called the next day by the youth director and she was invited to try out the area but after the attitude I had gotten from the original CM I asked I didn't want a target being placed on her every time she was there. There are only 4 CMs assigned to that area according to what DS told me and he spent a lot of time there.
 
I will have two girls with me - one 11 and the other one 3 weeks away from turning 11. The 10 year old is 5 inches taller than the 11year old! I really hope they can both be in the Tween club - if not, there may be a tween mutiny!

Amanda
 
I will have two girls with me - one 11 and the other one 3 weeks away from turning 11. The 10 year old is 5 inches taller than the 11year old! I really hope they can both be in the Tween club - if not, there may be a tween mutiny!

Amanda

The general rule is that if a child is 30 days or less from the next age group, they are allowed to move up. By this rule, your 10 year + 11 month old will be fine!
 
I've also heard about this 30 day rule. Does anyone know if applies the other direction as well? In our situation we have a DS 11 , and a DS that just turned 14. The just turned 14 year old has NO desire to be in the teen area with older kids. (He is extremely shy and terrified of girls.) He is really hoping to be in the tween area with his younger brother.

Someone else said you can always present the arguement about the school grade. My 14 is still in middle school, so he should be with other middle schoolers.

Do you think I will have any luck with this? What is complicating matters is that my 14DS is very tall, and he will tower over the other tweens. I worry about the other kid/parents wondering why such a tall kid is in the tween area. But I would still like this option.
 
I've also heard about this 30 day rule. Does anyone know if applies the other direction as well? In our situation we have a DS 11 , and a DS that just turned 14. The just turned 14 year old has NO desire to be in the teen area with older kids. (He is extremely shy and terrified of girls.) He is really hoping to be in the tween area with his younger brother.

Someone else said you can always present the arguement about the school grade. My 14 is still in middle school, so he should be with other middle schoolers.

Do you think I will have any luck with this? What is complicating matters is that my 14DS is very tall, and he will tower over the other tweens. I worry about the other kid/parents wondering why such a tall kid is in the tween area. But I would still like this option.

Actually, they are FAR more flexible about moving a kid down than moving up. If the parent and child agree that he should be moved down, the only issue would be "space available," and that's not usually a problem. They will talk with the parent, and usually the kid too. The only thing they used to be strict about was that you couldn't dance between groups--you'd have to choose one or the other. I can't tell you if they are still being strict about this. I think you have a compelling point that he's in middle school and won't fit with the high school group regardless of size.

As to the "other parents," if anyone says anything, the CM can just say that he's in middle school.
 
Good discussion. Wondering if a "tween" is allowed to go into the lab to "play"? Anyone know? Would he have to choose to be assigned only to the lab and then unable to go to the tween activities?
 
You are permitted to sign up a 'tween' for the lab, but that removes them for the Tween Program.
 
DS said that there was a 14 yo in the Edge but when he said he wanted to bring a 15 yo with him the CM said a 15 yo would not be allowed there.
 
I will have two girls with me - one 11 and the other one 3 weeks away from turning 11. The 10 year old is 5 inches taller than the 11year old! I really hope they can both be in the Tween club - if not, there may be a tween mutiny!

Amanda

I don't think you will have any problems getting them both in the tween group...

I've also heard about this 30 day rule. Does anyone know if applies the other direction as well? In our situation we have a DS 11 , and a DS that just turned 14. The just turned 14 year old has NO desire to be in the teen area with older kids. (He is extremely shy and terrified of girls.) He is really hoping to be in the tween area with his younger brother.

Someone else said you can always present the arguement about the school grade. My 14 is still in middle school, so he should be with other middle schoolers.

Do you think I will have any luck with this? What is complicating matters is that my 14DS is very tall, and he will tower over the other tweens. I worry about the other kid/parents wondering why such a tall kid is in the tween area. But I would still like this option.


I don't think you will have any problem keeping your son in the tween group... My ds will be a few weeks shy of 14 when we sail and I am so glad that they opened Edge on the Wonder as he does not belong with the teen group...

While these two situations will likely be accomodated; I seriously don't see them allowing 9 year olds into the Edge....
 
I read some where kids can get passes to "visit" another club. Is this true? I'm curious because my oldest son and oldest niece can do either the tween or the younger clu. I'm concerned they'll want to do some activities in the younger one or hang out with their cousins/siblings. I think it's silly they can't go between the two when their ages fit both.
 
I read some where kids can get passes to "visit" another club. Is this true? I'm curious because my oldest son and oldest niece can do either the tween or the younger clu. I'm concerned they'll want to do some activities in the younger one or hang out with their cousins/siblings. I think it's silly they can't go between the two when their ages fit both.

I can totally understand why you think this, however if you look at it from a crew and logistical point of view you might understand why the rules are quite strictly adheared to. The crew in the clubs have a responsibility to ensure the children are safe, and enjoying themselves in a secure environment. If children are 'jumping' between clubs it makes it so much more difficult to do this. On the lowest level it makes keeping track of who is who near impossible.

If you also look at it from a parental point of view. If you want your child mover to an older group, and it is permitted. You find out that your child has been bullied/ ignored simply because your child is the 'odd one out' because they are the youngest. I hate to say it, but throughout my career working with children this is the #1 reason why children are picked on.

Another point regarding the moving of children between age groups and why the cruise lines policies are right has already been made on this thread.

lbgraves said:
DS said that there was a 14 yo in the Edge but when he said he wanted to bring a 15 yo with him the CM said a 15 yo would not be allowed there.

This is another huge problem. One child is moved as an 'exception' and then so many more want moved. This can not happen because it causes a huge imbalance in the numbers in the programmes, and is so difficult to manage and keep track of.

DCL has created tween clubs o all their ships to address the problem of the number of kids wanted moved from the Lab to the teen clubs. All this seems to have done is move the problem to tweens wanting in the teen club, and lab kids wanting in the tween club.

What many people don't realise is that their children will be (99.9% of the time) happy in their age appropriate activities with their peer group. Of the children that were moved to the teen club, I would estimate that about 80% went one night and never again because they felt uncomfortable. The vast majority of complaints about the teen club were lodged by parents of children who were moved up to the teen club.

I always found the argument of keeping siblings together to be so amusing. When you would ask each sibling if they wanted to be together, they would normally say 'no'. They would never play together either.

As crew, this is always the most frustrating thing to deal with. Yes, parents know their children best, however, the crew know child entertainment best. You know that the children would be better off in their age group. You know why they shouldn't be moved but parents can be so insistent.
 

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