Trundle bed collapses on woman

[mshanson3121]

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Looking at the photo, my husband (former journeyman) says looks like either a) they used drywall anchors and never tried to hit the stud - which is a huge mistake or b) they were trying for the stud and missed, which should never have happened. Either way, you can see that it was only secured in the drywall, not the stud, and was an accident waiting to happen. They're very lucky the woman had only minor injuries.

 

[Jennasis]

All of the work by this construction company who did the install has to be called into question. Every trundle bed they installed...and anything else they built or installed. Did they hang the tv's and install the murphy beds in the tower studios too??

 

[firefly_ris]

Sloppy work.

 

[mshanson3121]

Sloppy work.

Which I agree with the other poster is concerning...just how many other things were anchored by this careless person? That said, one thing we know about Disney, you can be sure they're checking them all now.

 

[mickeyway]

All trundle beds in the resort are now out of order and cannot be used. Sloppy workmanship to cut costs is my guess.

 

[sachilles]

Which I agree with the other poster is concerning...just how many other things were anchored by this careless person? That said, one thing we know about Disney, you can be sure they're checking them all now.

Evidenced by the tags on the trundle beds, they have to be looking now.
Certainly could be as easy as someone missed the studs this one time.....or maybe it was habitual. Metal studs have cut outs as well, so a stud finder might find the stud a few inches up, put where you put the screw an inch lower could have a cavity. That being said, anyone with building knowledge/experience would have felt that the screws didn't bite. If they used drywall anchors, which I don't they did from the photo, then they know they missed the stud, and were hoping the other set of screws would be enough to hold it in place.
While it calls in to question the quality of work of the contractor, I think we'll find the full size murphy's attach a bit differently and are less risk of failure.
I think the big murphy's must be assembled in room, but the small twin murphy's probably come in as a full unit.
Regardless, Disney is now on the hook for checking all of it, no matter if it was one random mistake, or a building wide problem.

 

[sachilles]

The real fix is to cut the drywall and install some blocking for the trundle to anchor to. Given that it's hidden by the trundle frame, Disney should be able to make it happen fairly quick so rooms don't go out of service.

 

[MaC410]

I've never had to use one of these beds before. Are they made for adults? If so, is there a weight limit?

 

[dlavender]

I've never had to use one of these beds before. Are they made for adults? If so, is there a weight limit?

I don't think they explicitly state one way or another.

I know at POR they say "sleeps 5" in the trundle bed rooms (I know the set up is different).

But I wonder if they start specifying now because of this, shifting the "blame" a little if something does happen....

 

[5kidsmommy]

I've never had to use one of these beds before. Are they made for adults? If so, is there a weight limit?

The ones in the moderate resorts are meant for children. The ones in the DVC are meant for adults. They are a single sized bed, a little smaller than a twin but not by much.

 

[crvetter]

I've never had to use one of these beds before. Are they made for adults? If so, is there a weight limit?

They are made for adults. I think the other DVC room ones say the weight limit is 200 lbs. Though I could be wrong on that but I'm fairly certain a weight limit is posted on the rooms I've been in. It is explicitly stated that the rooms sleep 5 adults so DVC intends and knows that adults will be sleeping on them. Also to note that the DVC murphy beds are larger than those that have been added to the moderate resorts (much closer to full twin size, and those in Riviera are being reported as a full twin size).

 

[firefly_ris]

Even if they were only for children, 4 silly plastic drywall anchors isn't going to do squat to keep a huge unit like that in the wall for years and years being using by a bajillion different people.

 

[MaC410]

Even if they were only for children, 4 silly plastic drywall anchors isn't going to do squat to keep a huge unit like that in the wall for years and years being using by a bajillion different people.

Absolutely agree. I was only asking out of curiosity, not to place any blame on a guest. I just didn't know if many adults slept on these since they always looked pretty small to me.

 

[middlechild]

If the bed rotates down, and legs spring out to hold up the frame, then the bolts on the wall only hold the decorative frame and not the weight of the occupant. If the edge of the bed is not supported by any type of leg, than the wall fasteners would have to be engineered for 250# at 3' moment arm, or about 750#.

 

[mshanson3121]

Even if they were only for children, 4 silly plastic drywall anchors isn't going to do squat to keep a huge unit like that in the wall for years and years being using by a bajillion different people.

No, exactly. Even without anyone using the bed, eventually, over time, they would have come loose. They just aren't meant to carry that sort of load.

 

[firefly_ris]

Absolutely agree. I was only asking out of curiosity, not to place any blame on a guest. I just didn't know if many adults slept on these since they always looked pretty small to me.

Oops, I'm sorry, I didn't mean for my response to appear as though it were a snarky reply to your post. XD I agree with you. The mini-murphys in the moderates are a bit smaller than a normal bed (and I've never been in a DVC unit so can't speak to that) -- I can fit on them fine as an adult, but I'm only 5 feet tall. I was more just making a general comment that regardless of who the intended sleeper is meant to be, they should be assuming any scenario by any number of guests... for example maybe mom lays on the bed with the child to read them a quick story before bed, etc. They know better than what they allowed here.

 

[mshanson3121]

That being said, anyone with building knowledge/experience would have felt that the screws didn't bite.

This!! I mean, I'm not even close to a carpenter/contractor etc... but I've used a drill plenty of times just with projects around the home, and it is very clear when a screw bites into wood (or steel) versus just goes into gyprock with nothing behind it.

 

[mshanson3121]

If the bed rotates down, and legs spring out to hold up the frame, then the bolts on the wall only hold the decorative frame and not the weight of the occupant. If the edge of the bed is not supported by any type of leg, than the wall fasteners would have to be engineered for 250# at 3' moment arm, or about 750#.

No leg supports. The bulk of the weight is supported by the unit (and wall anchors) itself.




The unit when closed


Judging by the photos, the unit's weight is supposed to be supported by the wall anchors. As in this photo you can see clearly that the whole unit flopped over, which makes sense - the weight of the woman in the bed would have been pulling it forward.

 

[sponica]

I couldn't remember what these looked like when they're not crumpled over on a person...thanks for posting the pics!

 

[TwoMisfits]

No leg supports. The bulk of the weight is supported by the unit (and wall anchors) itself.


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The unit when closed
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Judging by the photos, the unit's weight is supposed to be supported by the wall anchors. As in this photo you can see clearly that the whole unit flopped over, which makes sense - the weight of the woman in the bed would have been pulling it forward.

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That pic doesn't look like they anchored it to the wall at all, b/c I don't see the holes where it would have ripped away...I see 2 tiny screws sticking out one side...and that's it...