Trial Run for Dogs in Resort Rooms

[ActionComics25]

I might be late to the party on this thread, but no I absolutely do not want dogs who are not service animals in the resorts, and not for allergy or convenience reasons. My husband is terrified of dogs, he can be okay around well behaved familiar dogs, but if we were to encounter a bigger dog pulling at a leash or even coming up to him in a friendly way, it would likely end in him having a panic attack, which will ruin our day at the very least. I have a hard enough time convincing him that forgoing "real vacations" for Disney is hard enough, add in random dogs and I'm not sure that's a possible task.

 

[Best_Vacation_EVER!]

Glad that this thread has veered from "if you booked a vacation for late 2017/2018 it's your own fault for not assuming that there would be non-service dogs around you".

Had the original policy not been such a free-for-all then many of the concerns expressed in the thread would have been alleviated. No size restrictions, no expectations of guest in terms of unattended dogs (i.e. crating, taking them to doggie daycare) beyond checking on them every 7 hours, no indication that the dogs must be included at booking (rather than just showing up at the desk with 2 dogs), WDW liability for the dogs that bite/etc other guests....etc.....), no indications that allergic guest accommodations would be provided for, suggests that there was not sufficient consideration of the policy relating to dogs. The fact that 85% of DIS-boarders don't like this, not scientific by any means but definitely reflective, that the policy wasn't exactly robustly considered or communicated. In summary had WDW handled this well it wouldn't have caused so much stress for people.

While WDW has over the past few days evolved some policies to reflect the concerns of guests (a special thanks to Andre and others who have provided the info...) they still don't provide the level of policy that most other hotels/resorts in the area offer (particularly for higher end resorts.) Most of those places specify size/weight limits and define that dogs should not be left unattended for any time periods (much less the 7 hours WDW specifies.) WDW policy still lags significantly to other comparable properties. Again the policy seems to be slap-dash and certainly didn't consider the people who had already booked during the period.

 

[nicko]

Correct, but that's far from "any room in the resort". They have a small number of specific locations designated to cover any potential situation of needing to accommodate a dog in room categories other than Standard/Garden/Pool View (Pool View is available in 24 too by the way, as are a couple of King Bed rooms).

And as they are stating this is partly for transportation of dogs in an emergency, I can't see having a dog in a huge uncarryable cage would help in any way at all.

Andre

Thanks for the floor plan diagram, but I'm still having trouble understanding which of the rooms in this floor plan would likely be dog rooms. Perhaps you could indicate it with some sort of icon on the rooms.

I would suggest maybe placing the "poop emoji" on those rooms?

 

[LSUmiss]

Glad that this thread has veered from "if you booked a vacation for late 2017/2018 it's your own fault for not assuming that there would be non-service dogs around you".

Had the original policy not been such a free-for-all then many of the concerns expressed in the thread would have been alleviated. No size restrictions, no expectations of guest in terms of unattended dogs (i.e. crating, taking them to doggie daycare) beyond checking on them every 7 hours, no indication that the dogs must be included at booking (rather than just showing up at the desk with 2 dogs), WDW liability for the dogs that bite/etc other guests....etc.....), no indications that allergic guest accommodations would be provided for, suggests that there was not sufficient consideration of the policy relating to dogs. The fact that 85% of DIS-boarders don't like this, not scientific by any means but definitely reflective, that the policy wasn't exactly robustly considered or communicated. In summary had WDW handled this well it wouldn't have caused so much stress for people.

While WDW has over the past few days evolved some policies to reflect the concerns of guests (a special thanks to Andre and others who have provided the info...) they still don't provide the level of policy that most other hotels/resorts in the area offer (particularly for higher end resorts.) Most of those places specify size/weight limits and define that dogs should not be left unattended for any time periods (much less the 7 hours WDW specifies.) WDW policy still lags significantly to other comparable properties. Again the policy seems to be slap-dash and certainly didn't consider the people who had already booked during the period.

I don’t recall anyone saying it is “your fault...”. Most posters who like the policy have made a point to say that they disagreed with how it was rolled out.

 

[Best_Vacation_EVER!]

I don’t recall anyone saying it is “your fault...”. Most posters who like the policy have made a point to say that they disagreed with how it was rolled out.

Really.... maybe they didn't use the word "fault" but there are a fair number of posts in the past 170 pages which suggest that people should just roll with it and shouldn't be upset.... especially if they weren't staying at the newly dog-friendly resorts. To their credit, yes, many posters have said that they disagreed but there were also a good many people who said you should stop complaining or just stop going to WDW if you don't like it... but we've seemed to move from that --- was all that first sentence meant.

If that's all you took from my 3 paragraph post then good on ya'.... love when people take a small sentence in a post and grip on that rather than the overall post.

 

[LSUmiss]

Really.... maybe they didn't use the word "fault" but there are a fair number of posts in the past 170 pages which suggest that people should just roll with it and shouldn't be upset.... especially if they weren't staying at the newly dog-friendly resorts. To their credit, yes, many posters have said that they disagreed but there were also a good many people who said you should stop complaining or just stop going to WDW if you don't like it... but we've seemed to move from that --- was all that first sentence meant.

If that's all you took from my 3 paragraph post then good on ya'.... love when people take a small sentence in a post and grip on that rather than the overall post.

Not at all. I didn’t have anything to say about the rest of your post.

 

[shoreward]

Does anyone know why Disney is specifying a maximum seven hour time limit that dogs can be left unattended in a guest's room? This long time span does not seem to be anywhere close to what other hotels allow.

Is it because Disney's research shows that the average resort guest leaves their room, on average, for seven hours, and Disney wants their guests to be out spending money in the parks, restaurants, etc.?

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[ArwenMarie]

My guess is it's because 8 hours is the rough guideline for how long people think that you can leave an adult dog alone (I don't agree with it personally).

So they went a little under that

 

[Wood Nymph]

Does anyone know if there is thread reporting on the current dog policy and reports on first hand experiences?

This thread's purpose is to collect the information we receive about the new dog friendly trial:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/h...-disneys-policies-on-dogs-at-resorts.3641677/

And this thread is supposed to be for reports for dog sightings since the trial began on Monday. I suggest you start at the end of this thread, since the earlier stories are mostly about dogs before the trial began:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/actual-dog-experiences.3640660/

I think this issue (at the Beach Club) is going to cause some real uproar with DVC folks. It's why I have some hope that eventually YC will be pet free.

I would like to see the Yacht Club removed from the dog trial for several reasons:

1. noise from fireworks - Illuminations is very loud, as anyone who has stayed in an Epcot resort will tell you. The fireworks from DHS can be heard at the Epcot resorts, too, although they are not as loud as the ones from Epcot. Most dogs don't like fireworks, especially if they are left alone
2. The Yacht Club has interior hallways and dogs will have to use them to access the pet relief areas. POR, the LM rooms at AoA and the cabins at FW have exterior doors and dogs will be able to exit them easily and quickly.
   
3. A club level CM told a current guest at the YC that dogs will be allowed on the concierge floor, but not in the food areas. That means that the dogs will use the elevator to go to and from the pet relief areas. Some people will not want to ride an elevator with a strange dog
4. Unlike the other three resorts used in the trial, dog owners at the YC would have very easy access to other resorts and public areas, including the beach, the Boardwalk, and the two Theme parks. I have no idea if this would happen but it would not be hard to pass off your pet as a service animal and take a nice walk around the World Showcase or down the walking path to Hollywood Studios. Dogs at the YC have the potential to bother guests at the BC, BCV's, BWI and BWV's, as well as the Swan and Dolphin.

 

[jarestel]

there are a fair number of posts in the past 170 pages which suggest that people should just roll with it and shouldn't be upset

I would rephrase this concern to "There are a fair number of posts that suggest people shouldn't be upset until there is actually something to be upset about".

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

This thread's purpose is to collect the information we receive about the new dog friendly trial:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/h...-disneys-policies-on-dogs-at-resorts.3641677/

And this thread is supposed to be for reports for dog sightings since the trial began on Monday. I suggest you start at the end of this thread, since the earlier stories are mostly about dogs before the trial began:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/actual-dog-experiences.3640660/

I would like to see the Yacht Club removed from the dog trial for several reasons:

1. noise from fireworks - Illuminations is very loud, as anyone who has stayed in an Epcot resort will tell you. The fireworks from DHS can be heard at the Epcot resorts, too, although they are not as loud as the ones from Epcot. Most dogs don't like fireworks, especially if they are left alone
2. The Yacht Club has interior hallways and dogs will have to use them to access the pet relief areas. POR, the LM rooms at AoA and the cabins at FW have exterior doors and dogs will be able to exit them easily and quickly.
   
3. A club level CM told a current guest at the YC that dogs will be allowed on the concierge floor, but not in the food areas. That means that the dogs will use the elevator to go and from the pet relief areas. Some people will not want to ride an elevator with a strange dog
4. Unlike the other three resorts used in the trial, dog owners at the YC would have very easy access to other resorts and public areas, including the beach, the Boardwalk, and the two Theme parks. I have no idea if this would happen but it would not be hard to pass off your pet as a service animal and take a nice walk around the World Showcase or down the walking path to Hollywood Studios. Dogs at the YC have the potential to bother guests at the BC, BCV's, BWI and BWV's, as well as the Swan and Dolphin.

I was told by the Disney rep that the pets would not be allowed on the walkways and beach at the YC/BC area. It appears that it's SOP as usual by CM's giving conflicting info. She may have meant service dogs. IDK I'm with you, they should not be allowed at the YC.

 

[Best_Vacation_EVER!]

I would rephrase this concern to "There are a fair number of posts that suggest people shouldn't be upset until there is actually something to be upset about".

So until I've spent that $20000 on my vacation I should just assume that it's not going to be a problem... Excellent.. but not really practical....

also that's not what the posts have said... but facts are so unimportant.....

 

[Jennasis]

Does anyone know why Disney is specifying a maximum seven hour time limit that dogs can be left unattended in a guest's room? This long time span does not seem to be anywhere close to what other hotels allow.

Is it because Disney's research shows that the average resort guest leaves their room, on average, for seven hours, and Disney wants their guests to be out spending money in the parks, restaurants, etc.?

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[Kay123456]

There actually was a person who sustained an eye injury at our baseball stadium from one of those hot dog launchers. She sued and lost.

OT but

omg that one made me chuckle for sure!!

 

[jarestel]

but facts are so unimportant.

Since nobody has been inconvenienced by dogs at resorts to this point, I would say facts are very important.

 

[TinkerBelle_325]

Since nobody has been inconvenienced by dogs at resorts to this point, I would say facts are very important.

We don't know that. All we know is that no one on this thread has been inconvenienced by dogs at the resort to this point. And with a policy that allows dogs to be left unattended in the room up to 7 hours (a major break from the industry standard in terms of pet friendly policies) it isn't a matter of IF a guest will be inconvenienced it is a matter of WHEN.

 

[jarestel]

We don't know

I agree totally with this...

 

[andrewilley]

Thanks for the floor plan diagram, but I'm still having trouble understanding which of the rooms in this floor plan would likely be dog rooms.

It's only a small building with two floors of 32 rooms each, so I'd suggest ruling the whole building out if you are one of the people who have any kind of issue with dogs. That way you won't have to worry about any potential encounters. My floorplan does indicate which rooms are Standard View (white) or Garden View (green) though, which are the two categories that Disney has said they want guests who are bringing dogs to book.

Andre

 

[Ciao Mickey]

Nothing would stop them from suing Disney, but they would have the burden to show that somehow Disney negligently, recklessly or intentionally caused their injuries. Simply allowing dogs on property would not be enough. Generally, they would have to show that Disney's dog policy fell below the what is reasonable for similar policies at similar locations. If Disney's policy is more or less in line with industry standards, they would likely not be liable unless there was some other factor that one could point to to show that Disney somehow caused their injuries through negligence, recklessness or by intentionally doing so. Not properly enforcing their policies could be one argument.

Is Disney’s dog policy in line with other hotels? There is no limit on the size or breed of a dog at wdw. Why would wdw after all these years decide to allow dogs at their resorts? Why didn’t they allow dogs all along? Could it be that at a place that has so many kids running around it’s really not a good idea to add dogs to the mix?

I have no issues with real service dogs. But you know that some morons will try to pass off their pets as service dogs so they can take them where they want to and that’s when you are going to have problems.

If a dog attacks a person at the one of the dog friendly resorts, Disney should be equally liable because they invited the dogs to be there.

 

[Ciao Mickey]

There actually was a person who sustained an eye injury at our baseball stadium from one of those hot dog launchers. She sued and lost.

She had a crappy lawyer then.