Toxic friendships and people telling you who they really are….

Once.Upon.A.Time

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Dear some advice from my people here. I have a family friend who has been in my life for over 10 years now. She’s older than me and would always tell me she considered me another daughter. Yesterday she did something that I find somewhat unforgivable and I honestly have had enough of her BS. She plays sides, is overall fake, and uses people as her therapist. Anyway, cut to the chase, I still feel bad about it. How did you guys deal with friendships that ended? She was at my mother’s funeral, we were involved in each other’s lives and family. I know I’m better off, but it still feels like a knife in the back. I did tell her how I feel, she did say sorry, but she’s a toxic person. Do you feel better that things have ended with certain people? Better to tell them how you feel?

Thanks so much and looking forward to your stories!
 
Sometimes even when someone apologizes and you accept the apology there is just no way to save the friendship going forward. It will hit you in all the emotions, anger, sadness, even to the point of going through a grieving process for the friendship you thought you had. However, if what happened has crossed a line that affects you in a negative way, you should not feel bad about dropping the friendship.

Do you have other friends you can socialize with? Focusing on the positive people in your life will help put this in perspective as you move on.

So sorry this happened to you. :grouphug: It’s never pleasant to find out that someone you thought was a good friend isn’t really a friend at all.
 
So much depends on what the actual transgression(s) is/are. Most especially if you're (general you're) talking about the last straw.

As a random thing using people as a therapist in itself isn't toxic. Some people enjoy being the sounding board to others and find it is part of their friendship for them. But it can easily stray into an emotional burden to someone overwhelming them if they take on everyone's problems and can be a feature to someone in which you feel they always complain but don't work to adjust things. But most often (IMO) people get tired of the usage of friends as a therapist for lack of a better description because it was a one-sided transactional feel in which the complainant was never interested in reciprocity thus never really wanting to hear nor give their own support to other of their friends and their issues that come up over time so you end up feeling used.

The majority of friends in which we aren't really actually talking actively have faded away in a more gentle manner even if there was toxicity and "I'm just over it". There was only 1 friend who I can say it went out with a bang and that was a friend who was like that fast friend meaning you became such fast friends but it wasn't really that deep friendship in comparison to ones I had had the years prior. That one it was after she insisted (amongst other things she had gone back on) to get clothes she had given me (free and clear meaning they were not a borrow situation) and when I laid them out in a bag and told her to come get them they sat there for 3 days without her getting them so I brought them back inside blocked her on social media and blocked her phone number and that was that.
 

That's awful and very sad, shame it happened. I've had relationships end and I guess the best way to see it came from a cool quote I remind myself of from time to time:

When it's over leave, don't continue watering a dead flower.

Thank you for that quote. Definitely going to keep that in mind!
 
Sometimes even when someone apologizes and you accept the apology there is just no way to save the friendship going forward. It will hit you in all the emotions, anger, sadness, even to the point of going through a grieving process for the friendship you thought you had. However, if what happened has crossed a line that affects you in a negative way, you should not feel bad about dropping the friendship.

Do you have other friends you can socialize with? Focusing on the positive people in your life will help put this in perspective as you move on.

So sorry this happened to you. :grouphug: It’s never pleasant to find out that someone you thought was a good friend isn’t really a friend at all.

Yes. Thankfully I have good people in my life. Thank you so much ❤️
 
So much depends on what the actual transgression(s) is/are. Most especially if you're (general you're) talking about the last straw.

As a random thing using people as a therapist in itself isn't toxic. Some people enjoy being the sounding board to others and find it is part of their friendship for them. But it can easily stray into an emotional burden to someone overwhelming them if they take on everyone's problems and can be a feature to someone in which you feel they always complain but don't work to adjust things. But most often (IMO) people get tired of the usage of friends as a therapist for lack of a better description because it was a one-sided transactional feel in which the complainant was never interested in reciprocity thus never really wanting to hear nor give their own support to other of their friends and their issues that come up over time so you end up feeling used.

The majority of friends in which we aren't really actually talking actively have faded away in a more gentle manner even if there was toxicity and "I'm just over it". There was only 1 friend who I can say it went out with a bang and that was a friend who was like that fast friend meaning you became such fast friends but it wasn't really that deep friendship in comparison to ones I had had the years prior. That one it was after she insisted (amongst other things she had gone back on) to get clothes she had given me (free and clear meaning they were not a borrow situation) and when I laid them out in a bag and told her to come get them they sat there for 3 days without her getting them so I brought them back inside blocked her on social media and blocked her phone number and that was that.

That’s exactly how I feel about this person. She complains, but does nothing. I think she thrives off of drama 🎭
 
I'm sorry that happened to you. I recently had an experience where someone I truly thought was a close friend turned out not to be. I pray to wish that person peace and do my best to move on. Definitely not easy and of course it hurts. Hug to you. We care.
 
You move on. There is literally nothing else you can do. If you have trouble moving on yet are certain they are bad for you look for some therapy. You can get therapy for a short time for a specific issue. You’ve terminated a long term relationship, your world is going to be shaken for a while.
 
You move on. There is literally nothing else you can do. If you have trouble moving on yet are certain they are bad for you look for some therapy. You can get therapy for a short time for a specific issue. You’ve terminated a long term relationship, your world is going to be shaken for a while.

Thank you so much. I do have a theorist for a few years now, she told me to go do something special for myself, so I’m going to do my nails today. You couldn’t be more right.
 
I’m sorry that this happened to you :hug:
I had a toxic friend in my life once that I had to remove for my own well being. She did not apologize to me for what she did, but she told her dad how she knows she did wrong (this was in 2010). He came to me asking me to give her another chance and I said no way. Every day that went by without an apology made me know I made the right decision. She doesn’t have many friends and it’s because she is the way she is. She’s very successful because she’s cut throat to get what she wants, but doesn’t know when to stop. Sadly, my throat was one of them. I was sad when the friendship ended, it was a breakup, but time heals most wounds and I have no regret about removing her from my life.
 
OP, I undertand completely. I had a super toxic friend that I broke off the friendship with because I just couldn't take it anymore. Then, a few years ago, we got back together and it was okay for a while until it wasn't. Nothing had really changed. She was the same toxic, negative, miserable person she'd always been so I slowly backed away from the friendship. Finally, she ended things with me--and I was relieved.

Meanwhile, I have another very close friend who just recently ghosted me and I have no idea why. So, in answer to the question of whether it's better to tell someone how you feel, the answer is maybe.

I'd love to know why this other person ghosted me, but, otoh, the friend in paragraph #1 said very very nasty things to me when she dropped our friendship, so I would rather not have known!
 
Wow. Terrible situation. It’s like Rodrick Heffley all over again.

Yeah, you need to end your relationship with the person treating you bad. It’s only going to get worse from here.
 
Dear some advice from my people here. I have a family friend who has been in my life for over 10 years now. She’s older than me and would always tell me she considered me another daughter. Yesterday she did something that I find somewhat unforgivable and I honestly have had enough of her BS. She plays sides, is overall fake, and uses people as her therapist. Anyway, cut to the chase, I still feel bad about it. How did you guys deal with friendships that ended? She was at my mother’s funeral, we were involved in each other’s lives and family. I know I’m better off, but it still feels like a knife in the back. I did tell her how I feel, she did say sorry, but she’s a toxic person. Do you feel better that things have ended with certain people? Better to tell them how you feel?

Thanks so much and looking forward to your stories!
It seems like your hurt is still fresh. Time and more time needs to pass before you will feel if there's a next step. But if she is toxic, then stepping away is OK!!!
 
Dear some advice from my people here. I have a family friend who has been in my life for over 10 years now. She’s older than me and would always tell me she considered me another daughter. Yesterday she did something that I find somewhat unforgivable and I honestly have had enough of her BS. She plays sides, is overall fake, and uses people as her therapist. Anyway, cut to the chase, I still feel bad about it. How did you guys deal with friendships that ended? She was at my mother’s funeral, we were involved in each other’s lives and family. I know I’m better off, but it still feels like a knife in the back. I did tell her how I feel, she did say sorry, but she’s a toxic person. Do you feel better that things have ended with certain people? Better to tell them how you feel?

Thanks so much and looking forward to your stories!
It seems like your hurt is still fresh. Time and more time needs to pass before you will feel if there's a next step. But if she is toxic, then stepping away is OK!!!
 
Dear some advice from my people here. I have a family friend who has been in my life for over 10 years now. She’s older than me and would always tell me she considered me another daughter. Yesterday she did something that I find somewhat unforgivable and I honestly have had enough of her BS. She plays sides, is overall fake, and uses people as her therapist. Anyway, cut to the chase, I still feel bad about it. How did you guys deal with friendships that ended? She was at my mother’s funeral, we were involved in each other’s lives and family. I know I’m better off, but it still feels like a knife in the back. I did tell her how I feel, she did say sorry, but she’s a toxic person. Do you feel better that things have ended with certain people? Better to tell them how you feel?

Thanks so much and looking forward to your stories!

Was friend somebody since college. We were roommates for a couple of yr in college. Super close even years later when we both had kids and lived in the same metro area. We'd meet up a lot, support each other, all of the good things you'd want in a friendship.

It was great...until it wasn't. When my kids were 5 and 7, Spouse & I opted to enroll our kids in a charter school. Friend took it personally, like I had betrayed her or something. Ironically, my kids never would have attended the same school as Friend's kids anyway because of where we lived. Friend also got super upset & offended when I opted to not enroll my kids in a 2nd yr of dance lessons (Friend's 2 daughters were super duper into dance, to the point where she spent about $400+/mo at the time on lessons). I switched my kids to do swimming instead. They liked it better.

Friend was mad. She started getting really into hanging out with other dance moms. Suddenly started doing her hair differently, dressing differently in an attempt to fit in with them. She started acting like them, too...snarky, rude, passive aggressive, putting people down. Not very nice.

For a long time, we'd get together at her house every Halloween to take our kids trick or treating together. That year that my kids were 5 & 7, she made plans to go out instead with a dance mom, but she didn't tell me ahead of time. She ditched me.

But due to our long-standing friendship, I excused it in my head and kept trying. Our monthly mom's night out dinners became less frequent. She stopped calling me back as often. And then she just stopped calling me back altogether. One time, she & I were out to dinner and a different friend of ours came up to our table and invited her to meet up later for drinks. Friend made plans to do that right in front of me and I was not invited.

Rude.

Friend also started talking trash to me directly, saying that my kids would "flunk out of that school by 5th grade and then you'll be back in regular public school again and I'll laugh at you and say I told you so." Guess what? My YDD is graduating from that charter school this academic year and has done really well. So Former Friend can go suck an egg.

So yeah, back when YDD was 5 was when the friendship died. 12 years ago because YDD is now 17. I mourned the friendship for a really long time. But some friendships only last for a season or 2 of your life. Not all friendships are meant to be forever. It was great while it lasted. ...until it wasn't great anymore. It was toxic. She was toxic.

2 yr ago right after her youngest kid graduated from high school, she filed for divorce and left the country. Basically, walked away from her entire family. Her eldest kid got married. Friend wasn't there for that. Her youngest kid started college...she totally missed that, too.

In my situation, I never told Former Friend why I disengaged and why I ghosted her (I unfriended her on Facebook & blocked her). There wasn't any point in explaining myself because through her behavior and what she'd said to me, it was obvious that she didn't like me anymore and didn't really want to remain friends. And she had become so snide, snarky, rude, and negative that, to be honest, I thought that she'd become a total "insert your favorite swear word here." She was NOT somebody who I wanted to waste my time with anymore.

When I decided that I was done, I finally realized that the only reason the friendship had continued for the last 2 yr that it did was because I was trying so hard. I was the one keeping it afloat.

So I stopped trying. And when I stopped trying, everything disintegrated and disappeared.

I'm glad now that the friendship ended. Its time had come to an end. It just took me awhile to realize that.

If you DO decide to explain yourself to your friend, you should not expect it to go well. If you do decide to proceed with that, only do it for yourself...not because you hope or expect your friend to turn it around and apologize and promise to make amends with you. It will not go like that.

If there are other people involved in this on the outskirts (you mentioned family friend, for example), you SHOULD expect your friend to talk smack about you to everybody else, twist your words, retell the tale in such a way where your friend appears to be the victim. You should expect some of those people to come back to you like flying monkeys and they will try to convince you to make nice with your friend in order to keep the peace.

...that's why my advice to you is to let the friendship quietly wither away and die on its own. There doesn't have to be a big finale send-off.
 


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