Tower of Terror 10 Miler 2014

[Waiting2goback]

Active.com has pretty decent listings of local races. Most local running clubs will have a list of upcoming events too.

John, I have tried that one and coolrunning.com. I just don't think those races are certified and runDisney says it needs to be certified to move up corrals.

I think the one I was looking for is usatf.org but I can't find the race I found before so I don't know for sure.

I am going to try the one Dis_Yoda suggested. It looks familiar too.

Thank you both.

 

[EcbLovesMickey]

John, I have tried that one and coolrunning.com. I just don't think those races are certified and runDisney says it needs to be certified to move up corrals.

I think the one I was looking for is usatf.org but I can't find the race I found before so I don't know for sure.

I am going to try the one Dis_Yoda suggested. It looks familiar too.

Thank you both.

I think by certified they basically mean that the results are posted online. They have to be able to look up results. If it's a small one that doesn't have chipped bibs it probably won't count, but as long as it is chipped and posts results online I would say it's probably ok

 

[annmarieda]

I think by certified they basically mean that the results are posted online. They have to be able to look up results. If it's a small one that doesn't have chipped bibs it probably won't count, but as long as it is chipped and posts results online I would say it's probably ok

I think the term certified actually refers to the course being checked by USTAF. It can be sanctioned or certified. I know I ran a race last year and wanted to use my time. It was a chipped event... but when I contacted the promoter he told me that he had it sanctioned, but not certified. Maybe I am wrong though.. but this was my understanding.

 

[moose615]

I think by certified they basically mean that the results are posted online. They have to be able to look up results. If it's a small one that doesn't have chipped bibs it probably won't count, but as long as it is chipped and posts results online I would say it's probably ok

I think the term certified actually refers to the course being checked by USTAF. It can be sanctioned or certified. I know I ran a race last year and wanted to use my time. It was a chipped event... but when I contacted the promoter he told me that he had it sanctioned, but not certified. Maybe I am wrong though.. but this was my understanding.

I apologise if I missed this but where does it say it has to be certified? On the 10 miler registration page it just says proof of time from 10k or higher is required. I'm curious because I am doing a 10k in 2 weeks that is timed by chip and the website will have a results page, and was planning on submitting.

 

[PrincessV]

I apologise if I missed this but where does it say it has to be certified? On the 10 miler registration page it just says proof of time from 10k or higher is required. I'm curious because I am doing a 10k in 2 weeks that is timed by chip and the website will have a results page, and was planning on submitting.

I'm sure that will be fine. Some small races don't chip time, and/or aren't measured by an official means - those would not be acceptable proof of time. Chances are, if a race is chip-timed, it's also been accurately measured. The key is rD needs proof - you must supply the data but also where they can see the data for themselves.

In the end, submitting ANYthing is better than nothing and you can always ask if it's acceptable when you email rD.

 

[SailorsWhyf]

Chances are, if a race is chip-timed, it's also been accurately measured. The key is rD needs proof - you must supply the data but also where they can see the data for themselves. In the end, submitting ANYthing is better than nothing and you can always ask if it's acceptable when you email rD.

I believe this is correct. I submitted results from a fairly small race that didn't say anything about certification, but it was chipped and results were online. RunDisney emailed back and let me know they were accepted.

The one I ran yesterday was much larger and had USATF certification but I don't think that matters much.

I will say this ... The chipped time begins when the gun goes off, no matter when you cross the start line. If you can get in a smaller race it might help to be able to start close to the beginning of the pack rather than way in the back losing precious time before you're even running.

 

[moose615]

I will say this ... The chipped time begins when the gun goes off, no matter when you cross the start line. If you can get in a smaller race it might help to be able to start close to the beginning of the pack rather than way in the back losing precious time before you're even running.

That's not fully true, Did a 5k last weekend and my finish time was 30 sec more then my chip time. I would imagine that depends on the race.

 

[ksloane]

My daughter completed her first 10K yesterday. We submitted her time of 1:05:05.1. She got first in her age division so pretty excited.

I did the 5K (i'm doing the 5K in October as well). I've cut mine down from almost exactly a 16 minute mile in mid March to 13:23 yesterday.

We're excited to keep this up! We're doing a 5 miler next month and then I have to start finding some longer ones for my daughter to complete in preparation for October. Those are few and far between around here so might have to start traveling.

 

[PrincessV]

will say this ... The chipped time begins when the gun goes off, no matter when you cross the start line. If you can get in a smaller race it might help to be able to start close to the beginning of the pack rather than way in the back losing precious time before you're even running.

Chip time should not start when the gun goes off - the whole point of chip time is that the chip detects when you cross the start and finish, as opposed to gun time. I'm sure it's possible some races don't chip time the start, but I've never seen that myself.

 

[annmarieda]

I will say this ... The chipped time begins when the gun goes off, no matter when you cross the start line. If you can get in a smaller race it might help to be able to start close to the beginning of the pack rather than way in the back losing precious time before you're even running.

No

I have never have had a chipped event not start when I cross the start and end when I cross the finish. That is why clock time will be different than finish time. If your official start wasn't when you cross the start then the clock and your finish would be the same.

As for ustaf certified being part of the requirement for rd- I think it was only in the wording from one race... Maybe either last years tot or the Donald in January... That I ran. I think it was when they were first making their policy changes - like no submitting a time at the expo.

 

[FFigawi]

Chip time should not start when the gun goes off - the whole point of chip time is that the chip detects when you cross the start and finish, as opposed to gun time. I'm sure it's possible some races don't chip time the start, but I've never seen that myself.

Some of the international races are gun time even with chips. I ran Two Oceans last year and am running Comrades this year, both of which have very strict gun time cut offs. They're the exception to the rule, but they're out there.

 

[Huney]

How long does it take to hear confirmation that runDisney has accepted your proof of time? I emailed them last week with my time from the Tink 10K this year, so that should pretty easy for them to confirm. I don't think a week is too long, but just hoping I made it in time

 

[PrincessV]

Some of the international races are gun time even with chips. I ran Two Oceans last year and am running Comrades this year, both of which have very strict gun time cut offs. They're the exception to the rule, but they're out there.

I figured it must happen here and there. But it's nothing I've seen, even at a small kcal race with less than 100 participants!

How long does it take to hear confirmation that runDisney has accepted your proof of time? I emailed them last week with my time from the Tink 10K this year, so that should pretty easy for them to confirm. I don't think a week is too long, but just hoping I made it in time

Depends how busy they are, but anywhere from a few days to a few weeks seems to be the norm. I'd give it 3 weeks, then follow up if you don't hear back.

 

[cewait]

I think by certified they basically mean that the results are posted online. They have to be able to look up results. If it's a small one that doesn't have chipped bibs it probably won't count, but as long as it is chipped and posts results online I would say it's probably ok

I think the term certified actually refers to the course being checked by USTAF. It can be sanctioned or certified. I know I ran a race last year and wanted to use my time. It was a chipped event... but when I contacted the promoter he told me that he had it sanctioned, but not certified. Maybe I am wrong though.. but this was my understanding.

Both are correct; but in practice, all runD is looking for is a race that has chip timing and is verifiable. The thought is that if the race director has hired a timing company then they have made some effort to run the race on a course that is close to the correct distance. The term certified is thrown out to gently push folks away from 'fun runs' where timing is via one's own device or virtual races where results can be dubious.

You are correct that certified is for the course and sanctioned is for the race. There are no 'certified' races only sanctioned races. Certification spells out that the course is at least xx long. Sanctioning says the race director is running the course per the USATF (or other sanctioning body) rules and regulations. The Disney courses are all certified by USATF and the half and full distance races are sanctioned. A world or national record can only be achieved on a sanctioned event.

 

[belle2211]

regarding chip time--I ran a 5k in Hilton Head last year that was chipped that used the gun time. It was only a 5k so it didn't count for any races, but it was the difference in a PR. I had lined up in the back with a friend, figuring once I crossed the starting line I could take off. When I questioned them, they said they used the chip just for the finish line.

 

[Waiting2goback]

I am trying to decide if I even want to run a race to move up. But, I did email rD and they are the ones who told me it had to be certified. So, I figure if I am going to run one it might as well be certified if I can so I know it will count.

There aren't many races that I can fit in before the 7/1 deadline when they are due, nevermind certified.

Then I am wondering if I will even be able to get to that mileage in a month. I did 4 miles the other day. Can I increase it to 6. (whatever it is) by June without killing myself or causing injury. That is way ahead of my training schedule I am going to be using.

 

[EcbLovesMickey]

I am trying to decide if I even want to run a race to move up. But, I did email rD and they are the ones who told me it had to be certified. So, I figure if I am going to run one it might as well be certified if I can so I know it will count.

There aren't many races that I can fit in before the 7/1 deadline when they are due, nevermind certified.

Then I am wondering if I will even be able to get to that mileage in a month. I did 4 miles the other day. Can I increase it to 6. (whatever it is) by June without killing myself or causing injury. That is way ahead of my training schedule I am going to be using.

I think you could easily increase to 6 by then. Follow a good training program and be sure to avoid injury

 

[disneyhorselover]

I am trying to decide if I even want to run a race to move up. But, I did email rD and they are the ones who told me it had to be certified. So, I figure if I am going to run one it might as well be certified if I can so I know it will count. There aren't many races that I can fit in before the 7/1 deadline when they are due, nevermind certified. Then I am wondering if I will even be able to get to that mileage in a month. I did 4 miles the other day. Can I increase it to 6. (whatever it is) by June without killing myself or causing injury. That is way ahead of my training schedule I am going to be using.

You can definitely get to 6 by then with a training plan, and based on my experience with Disney races, you definitely want to move up, and even a slow submitted time is better than none at all.

 

[RunDisney Crazy]

Yeah, you would think if it's chipped timed then it would start when you cross at the start and end when you cross the finish, the whole reason for having a chip. But then it just hit me, I recently ran a small local race, it was chipped timed but there was no pad at the start, just had the pad at the finish line. But there were probably 75 racers so it's not like everyone didn't start within a few seconds of one another. But chip timed is best in my opinion, especially for PRs.

Most chipped timed races are USTA measured so, as long as it's chip timed and posted it should be fine.

 

[RunDisney Crazy]

Getting back to the salt thing, its' weird to see someone with dried salt all over them. Some are much worse than others. I've only experienced that a few times, when running in colder temps. Here in Louisiana, when you finish most runs it's like stepping out of a shower or a swimming pool, so that's not much of anything dry on you.

I'm dreading the summer temps but it should really help with the ToT. So I'll have to remember that as my motivation.

I think 50s if the perfect running weather. The cold didn't bother me until December when I ran a half and the starting temp was 29 at 7AM, very stiff wind and the temp at 10 was.... 29. I think the windchill was low 20s. I had on long tights and a long tee, no gloves, no hat. Needless to say, I never, which I thought was wierd, never warmed up. My hands were numb for the entire race, I couldn't even grab the cups of water. Now, before a race, even when it's in the 40s or 50s I complain beforehand. Ha.