ToT...that's at Universal, right?

I've heard so many people complain about the people in the Fastpass lines 'paying to cut the line' that I don't bother correcting them anymore.
 
I've heard so many people complain about the people in the Fastpass lines 'paying to cut the line' that I don't bother correcting them anymore.

This is one of the main reasons why I do not think that Disney will sell extra FPs. They started out with a FP system that apparently 50% of people could not use, would not use, or didn't think they were entitled to use. Then they move to a "new and improved" system and market the heck out of it, trying to teach everyone that they can use it and that it is included in their admission price with no additional fee required. Why, after all that effort, would they introduce "paid-for" Fast Passes into the equation? That would take them right back to square one in terms of misinformation and under usage. If people in the past thought that FP- required a fee when it didn't, imagine how confused some people would be if they actually introduced a fee into the process.
 
I actually started correcting a new coworker recently when he said he was taking his son to Epcot next month. It was a mild battle of who would be correcting whom for a moment....but eventually we agreed that we were indeed talking about the same things and my information was just slightly more current.

I semi-planned my former boss' vacation to the World last year when the travel agent they were paying mucho bucks to wasn't doing a very good job!

I never hesitate to offer cheerful and friendly advice/information. I've been in the field of customer service for decades and I know how to do it without offense. Too often people are certain of something they didn't understand in the first place, and it's really easy to sweetly guide them back into the area of comprehension. Of course if someone is truly resistant then I back off immediately! But I've been a tour guide, bartender, server, secretary etc for many years and since I'm a generally friendly looking sort of person, I tend to invite questions ("do you know where ______ is?" "how do we find ____?" "where's the nearest _______?" I've even taken people myself and shown them the way.)

(I look like everyone's niece/grandchild/neighbor/friend from college etc etc etc...I have one of "those faces".)

If I could stand to live in Orlando, I'd work at the parks. In a flat heartbeat. I love people!
 
We became friendly with a group of people who were walking to Le Cellier to have dinner. It was a big party and they had no reservations. We let them know that there was not much chance of them getting in. We had tried early and couldn't and we were a party of two. We let them know that you had to adrs for that restaurant. Especially at the time.
 

We overheard a family saying they were going to cross the World Showcase (we were close to Canada) to go see the Egypt pavilion...
 
This is one of the main reasons why I do not think that Disney will sell extra FPs. They started out with a FP system that apparently 50% of people could not use, would not use, or didn't think they were entitled to use. Then they move to a "new and improved" system and market the heck out of it, trying to teach everyone that they can use it and that it is included in their admission price with no additional fee required. Why, after all that effort, would they introduce "paid-for" Fast Passes into the equation? That would take them right back to square one in terms of misinformation and under usage. If people in the past thought that FP- required a fee when it didn't, imagine how confused some people would be if they actually introduced a fee into the process.

None of us know of course, but they "could" offer "additional" FP+'s to certain guests in some form or fashion IMO. This would be transparent in the parks. And actually even "if" additional FP+ were offered like "free dining" in low seasons would be in affect, charging for them if sold with a rack rate package.
 
It just depends on how bad the misinformation is or if it seems like a convo I could jump into. Generally, no, I wouldn't. My family, having only been a couple times to MK and to Universal, where I have been 20+ times, makes these mistakes all the time. I don't expect everyone to memorize everything. There's a lot going on in the Orlando area.

Sorry but Orlando is a suburb of Disney isn't it? I know they have the Orlando Magic but that's just a feeder program for ESPN wide world of sports isn't it? That's where sports goofy got his start if I remember correctly.
 
None of us know of course, but they "could" offer "additional" FP+'s to certain guests in some form or fashion IMO. This would be transparent in the parks. And actually even "if" additional FP+ were offered like "free dining" in low seasons would be in affect, charging for them if sold with a rack rate package.

I agree that additional FPs could be on the horizon. In fact, I am virtually certain that they will be. (But the tiering and no repeating features will minimize their impact at every park except the MK). But I do not think they will apply a price tag to the extra FPs. First, for the reasons stated, (tiering and no repeats), what is that extra FP for Captain EO really worth? Second, the minute they attach a monetary value to it, they will be right back where they started in confusing guests who will think that FP+ is a privilege you have to pay for. I think they will start offering in-the-park extra passes giving the appearance that they are listening to what the consumer wants and making people feel better about 4 (or 5) instead of 3. But once you have your passes for TSM, ToT and Star Tours, and cannot get one for F! or RnR due to tiering, and you cannot get another for the three rides you picked originally, frankly, they could give you 10 additional FPs that day and it wouldn't change a thing about what you do and how you do it. But it would make people superficially very happy. Oops. There we go again. "You only think you are happy!" :rotfl2:
 
I've only known a few people who have gone to Disney and hated it…and all of them were absolutely clueless about what they had just experienced. One friend went on and on about how their best day of the whole trip was when they left Disney and went to Universal. They weren't at Universal. They were at DHS. Another friend said that it was ridiculous how there were hardly any rides. "It was ALL shows!" I guess if you can't see the actual ride from the outside or at the start of the line, it must not exist. :)

I just smile and nod.
 
This isn't right or wrong, just my opinion:

You should not wear Universal or any other parks T-shirts other than Disney when going to a Disney park. I see these "Thing 1" and "Thing 2" shirts a lot and it just shouldn't be.

However, for some reason, I think it's OK to wear Disney T-shirts to non-Disney parks. A Disney bias? Maybe.
 
I agree that additional FPs could be on the horizon. In fact, I am virtually certain that they will be. (But the tiering and no repeating features will minimize their impact at every park except the MK). But I do not think they will apply a price tag to the extra FPs. First, for the reasons stated, (tiering and no repeats), what is that extra FP for Captain EO really worth? Second, the minute they attach a monetary value to it, they will be right back where they started in confusing guests who will think that FP+ is a privilege you have to pay for. I think they will start offering in-the-park extra passes giving the appearance that they are listening to what the consumer wants and making people feel better about 4 (or 5) instead of 3. But once you have your passes for TSM, ToT and Star Tours, and cannot get one for F! or RnR due to tiering, and you cannot get another for the three rides you picked originally, frankly, they could give you 10 additional FPs that day and it wouldn't change a thing about what you do and how you do it. But it would make people superficially very happy. Oops. There we go again. "You only think you are happy!" :rotfl2:

All good points. I'm going to hedge a bit towards extra FP for deluxe or DVC purchase or the more expensive off season package-all of which are an extra charge even if hidden. But as easily could be wrong-will see. I'm not even sure what the point is really-I guess it's their product and money so no matter to me. Just start expanding so more can be offered.
 
I probably would have tried to correct them, but I've tried that before and got told I didn't know what I was talking about. When I ran into them again later in the park, they wouldn't even look at me. To quote Ursula, "Those poor unfortunate souls!"
 
This isn't right or wrong, just my opinion:

You should not wear Universal or any other parks T-shirts other than Disney when going to a Disney park. I see these "Thing 1" and "Thing 2" shirts a lot and it just shouldn't be.

However, for some reason, I think it's OK to wear Disney T-shirts to non-Disney parks. A Disney bias? Maybe.

Interesting opinion...

I do like matching my t-shirts to my park of the day, but I've never really thought to care what other people do. I wouldn't think anything other than, "Oh how cute, they like Dr Seuss!" if I saw a Thing 1 or 2 tee in a Disney park.

And I actually have a Disney tee, that I do not believe I can wear anywhere other than a Universal park. It's my Mickey-thulhu tee. I have a feeling the kiddies might not appreciate it/might find it traumatizing. But the team members at Universal should find it amusing! :thumbsup2 (Especially around Halloween.)

The rivalry, assuming there is any, is at the corporate level. Many cast/team members work in both parks. The people are the same. The entertainment offerings are similar. Heck, they both have Marvel properties now! I don't see any reason why guests should divide themselves up into completely bogus "sides".

I like both parks.

And all my other Disney tees (besides Mickey-thulhu) feature the Doctor running off with a Disney princess.

Should I only wear Doctor Who when I'm in the UK?
 
It doesn't make a lot of sense, that's for sure. I just get this feeling when I see any Universal, Sea World, or Busch Gardens shirts on people in the Disney parks---just seems tacky to me.

I don't have this feeling say at rock concerts--wear a shirt of the band playing from a previous tour, another rock band, or whatever.

Strange, eh?

We don't go to Universal due to how much more they want for a down payment and monthly amount for Florida Resident Annual Passes which is more for their two parks than it is for the 4 parks of Disney.
 
It's not surprising that people get Universal Studios and Hollywood Studios confused. That's been bound to happen since the day Disney got word that Universal would be putting up shop up the highway and decided to throw their own movie studio themed park up faster than they can even spell Seven Dwarfs Mine Train now (and it showed that they threw it up, the park wasn't up to standards for a long time after opening).
 
It's not surprising that people get Universal Studios and Hollywood Studios confused. That's been bound to happen since the day Disney got word that Universal would be putting up shop up the highway and decided to throw their own movie studio themed park up faster than they can even spell Seven Dwarfs Mine Train now (and it showed that they threw it up, the park wasn't up to standards for a long time after opening).
A lot of people still don't seem to think it's up to standards. It seems to be the park that the most people skip. I like it but one day is plenty.

As for the previous post about clothing, I love the Thing 1 and Thing 2 shirts. I think that they should be worn everywhere. ;)
 
I don't have this feeling say at rock concerts--wear a shirt of the band playing from a previous tour, another rock band, .

Funny, the Disney/universal shirt doesn't bother me but the rock concer thing does, unless it's an unknown bands then it's acceptable (in Chrissy land as my friends call it)
 
It doesn't make a lot of sense, that's for sure. I just get this feeling when I see any Universal, Sea World, or Busch Gardens shirts on people in the Disney parks---just seems tacky to me.

I don't have this feeling say at rock concerts--wear a shirt of the band playing from a previous tour, another rock band, or whatever.

Strange, eh?

We don't go to Universal due to how much more they want for a down payment and monthly amount for Florida Resident Annual Passes which is more for their two parks than it is for the 4 parks of Disney.
Other Florida residents have told me that renewing the annual pass is ridiculously cheap. Is it so expensive the first year?
 
Other Florida residents have told me that renewing the annual pass is ridiculously cheap. Is it so expensive the first year?


At USF the downpayment is $130.46 with monthly payments of $11.80 for the preferred (no blackouts) and you get three months free. You have to pay in full to get the cheap renewal. You don't get cheap renewal with the monthly payment schedule. Comparable WDW pass with no blackouts has downpayment of $106 with monthly payments of $34.22/month with no months free.

For a seasonal pass at USF the downpayment is $93.19 with payments of $8.48. At WDW the downpayment is $106 with payments of $19.48/month.
 


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