Tomorrowland Was Evacuated Tonight

I had a feeling the bag must have been found in an area not accessible to the public. Otherwise what would be the concern?

Yesterday my husband made a comment about how useless the "security" checkpoint is. We had 3 jackets stuffed under our stroller and they didn't bother to look under them. My husband said "they didn't even bother to look under our jackets, we could have had a stash of handguns in there." He was trying to make the point that even though we don't carry guns, it doesn't mean someone else wouldn't, and security would never know because they don't actually LOOK!:confused3
 
As we all know there is no security at DLR. You see people walking around with knives on their belts and god only knows what else.

Jack

You're kidding right? I haven't been for awhile but there was a time when Disneyland was very strict about their dress code.
My mom went once in the 60s and a friend had a shirt on with a logo from a surf shop and they made him change. He ended up having to wear his girl friends blouse! That managed to pass the Disneyland inspection.
I actually thought about the dress code thing because we've had an increasing gang problem up here and places like the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk and even some restaurants don't let patrons wear certain sports jerseys because gangs adopt then as a "uniform". Sad, I know.
 
They stopped me at bag check when I tried to bring in an unopened egg McMuffin so I know they are watching. They actually had to have an employee come and escort me to the picnic area so that I could eat it before I went in.:lmao: On second thought maybe they thought me my DM and 2 DS's were a security threat and they wanted to check us more.

On a serious note though I am relieved to hear that this went on - as it brings me comfort in knowing that they are paying attention and take things seriously.
 
You're kidding right? I haven't been for awhile but there was a time when Disneyland was very strict about their dress code.
My mom went once in the 60s and a friend had a shirt on with a logo from a surf shop and they made him change. He ended up having to wear his girl friends blouse! That managed to pass the Disneyland inspection.
I actually thought about the dress code thing because we've had an increasing gang problem up here and places like the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk and even some restaurants don't let patrons wear certain sports jerseys because gangs adopt then as a "uniform". Sad, I know.

No I am not kidding. I used to carry a firearm daily for my type of work. They become habits. I have accidentally carried in the park numerous times, not thinking about it. It is like putting my shoes on, so trust me, it is a joke.

Jack
 

Reading about this has jarred my memory of something that happened while hubby and I were staying at DLR a few years back. It was a very interesting look at Disney Security in action and left us both impressed and with a huge amount of respect for how they do their jobs. :thumbsup2

One morning we were walking through DD on the way to the parks (from the Disneyland Hotel). DD was EMPTY because it was early morning, mid-week. We'd just picked up coffee, and were still clearing out the cobwebs.

There was only one other person, a man, walking ahead of us, and we were commenting on how empty it was at DD. As we kept walking, we noticed some unusual activity in the "wings" (i.e., in the corners behind some of the stores and near the DD entrance to GC hotel). We quickly realized there was literally an entire "SWAT" team of Disney security, watching the man in front of us.

Most of these security guys were wearing all-dark outfits, and were watching the man from the shadows/sidelines.

We realized that the man in front of us was dressed (somewhat) like a homeless man, or at least strangely. We didn't even notice at first that he seemed a bit out of place in squeaky clean DD, because it's common to see eccentric types walking thru downtown in San Diego, where we're from.

We wondered why a team of security was following and tracking this homeless man (with walkie-talkies and everything!). We were joking to each other about Disney bringing out the full SWAT team to rid the property of its 'undesirables' before the guests woke up and saw something out of place. :rolleyes1

I think, because we were still foggy-brained, it didn't even occurr to us that the man might be dangerous. As we got closer to him, we saw that he had a long, flowing beard, and what looked like dreadlocks piled up under (and sticking out of) a large hat. He was wearing a green Army jacket and dark, saggy clothes.

For an older, perhaps homeless man, he was certainly fit or at least excited, because he was walking at a very fast clip.

I STILL don't know why we were not worried. Instead we picked up the pace, because we wanted to see what was going to happen! popcorn::

At this point, we were near the World of Disney store, walking towards the security checkpoint.

Suddenly, from the left side (near the tram drop-off) we saw a friendly, grandpa-type security guard in full Disney blues. He ambled up to the mysterious man with a big grin on his face. The older security guard was acting more like a WalMart greeter than a member of the tense security team waiting in the wings. At this point, we were in front of the bakery right near the security checkpoint.

He strolled towards the man and said "Good morning," to him and the man jumped a bit. He asked the man a question or two, and complimented him on his hat, and (I swear) I heard him say "Nice weather we're having!" and then he strolled away.

At this point, the man was obviously spooked and he turned right towards us and scrambled past. We got a good close-up look at his face. He was clearly a young, scrawny clean-cut kid wearing some kind of weird "homeless guy" or "potential terrorist" disguise of his own making.

The long flowing beard was fake. The hair, also fake. He barely fit into the baggy clothes. You could see from his eyes that he was terrified, and that he had lost his nerve for whatever he was about to try. :eek: He was getting out of there as quick as he could speed-walk.

What the hell? We decided he was probably a college kid doing some kind of social experiment on how Disney would handle "a situation" on its property. Either it was an experiment for a class, or else he was pulling some kind of a prank on his own.

But as soon as the kind old man security guard approached him, it was enough to spook him into turning and leaving. And the security guard was able to tell - in mere seconds - that the boy was not a threat, but a prankster instead. The kid never saw the entire security team following him through DD - he only saw the friendly security guard who said 'hello' to him.

But we were provided with a front row seat to the entire experience. It was wild. We didn't stop talking about it for the rest of the day! That friendly grandpa-type security guard was obviously a pro, and probably a profiler. :worship:

The whole thing was pretty impressive.
 
No I am not kidding. I used to carry a firearm daily for my type of work. They become habits. I have accidentally carried in the park numerous times, not thinking about it. It is like putting my shoes on, so trust me, it is a joke.

Jack

Well that doesn't make me feel better.:eek: I would think they would have a wand thing that would detect a gun. They do the wand thing at concerts all the time. And at baseball games, so you think DL would.
I'm going to stop thinking about this now...la la la...zippity do da...
 
Reading about this has jarred my memory of something that happened while hubby and I were staying at DLR a few years back. It was a very interesting look at Disney Security in action and left us both impressed and with a huge amount of respect for how they do their jobs. :thumbsup2


The whole thing was pretty impressive.

What an amazing story, Im so glad you guys were ok and that nothing happened.
 
The bag check is only there for peoples peace of mind I suppose. If someone wanted to carry in a bomb, gun, knife they could do so with ease. My bags have never been searched. Only glanced at and rarely anything moved. I could have had anything I wanted hidden inside. Even easier in my pocket, pants etc. I really think its to make Disney guests feel more comfortable that there is security present than actually trying to find contraband. Security inside the park is where I think problems are found.
 
Many years ago my wife and I were riding People Mover (ya, that long ago!). All of a sudden it came to a stop and in seconds 4 or 5 Men In Black looking guys ran down the track to a car a few down from us. They grabbed a few guys and escorted them off. CM's told us they spotted them with knives on the rides video cameras.

What impressed us was the speed at which these black suited security guys appeared from nowhere and were gone just as fast. You never see the security guards as that would spoil the magic but they most certainly are there!
 
No I am not kidding. I used to carry a firearm daily for my type of work. They become habits. I have accidentally carried in the park numerous times, not thinking about it. It is like putting my shoes on, so trust me, it is a joke.

Jack

Yes!

MY DH carries every single day and it doesn't matter where he is- he has it at all times. It's exactly like having his wallet or car keys, he never leaves home without it and it's just second nature.

On our last trip he was stopped because they could see a metal portion of his knife sticking out of his jeans pocket and when asked he said yes- it was a knife. They made him take the shuttle back to the car, put the knife in the car and then come back in. All of which he was fine doing, we didn't think they would see it or that it would be an issue. However, if I hadn't of reminded him before we left the hotel, he would have accidently packed his gun into DLR and security never would have noticed. It's my thinking that they just have no idea what they are looking for. Most folks at security look like moms (at least every time I've been) and not really "security guards". Seriously, do they know what a gun looks like?? Are they trained to find them on ordinary looking folks??

On the other topic- we always bring in our soft sided cooler and have never had any issues. The "moms" at the security checkpoint just ask us to open it up and verify that there's actually food in there. One even told me I was smart to put my chocolate muffin in the cooler by the ice so it would turn to chocolate goo.:rolleyes1

However, I was under the impression that coolers on wheels are not allowed in, mainly because they become a trip hazards for other guests walking the parks. I've never tried it, so couldn't say for sure. But our soft sided cooler gets in no problem and has a nice comfy spot on my stroller handles.;)

Anyone know if this will change due to the recent events? I'm leaving in 2 weeks and of course, will want to bring in my cooler. I wonder if it will still be allowed??
 
Sign of the times. I'm sure since the Times Square incident Disneyland and every where large groups gather have been on alert. Good thing it was only a left behind lunch.


I agree, we were there in March and someone left a bag in the Golden Horseshoe. All they did was "quarantine" that table by putting chairs around it until security came and checked it out.
 
But we were provided with a front row seat to the entire experience. It was wild. We didn't stop talking about it for the rest of the day! That friendly grandpa-type security guard was obviously a pro, and probably a profiler. :worship:

The whole thing was pretty impressive.

WOW! I'd say so. What a bizarre thing to watch, though. The unseen security at DL is pretty good.

A few years ago, a friend and her son were at DL over by the Mark Twain. Her son tripped on some uneven concrete, fell, and was bleeding from the forehead. Within a minute, a plainclothes security scooped them up and escorted them to a backstage area where her son could be looked at. They later transported them to a local hospital for stitches, and gave him a stuffed Mickey to hold. They were treated very well, but she said she was so surprised at how FAST Disney security was with them- before even starting to look for a CM to help.
 
I would just like to state for the record that if anyone blows up Disneyland before my trip next year, I will be Very Put Out.

Even more so if they do it during my trip....
 
No I am not kidding. I used to carry a firearm daily for my type of work. They become habits. I have accidentally carried in the park numerous times, not thinking about it. It is like putting my shoes on, so trust me, it is a joke.

Jack
Well that doesn't make me feel better.:eek: I would think they would have a wand thing that would detect a gun. They do the wand thing at concerts all the time. And at baseball games, so you think DL would.
I'm going to stop thinking about this now...la la la...zippity do da...
No metal detectors at Disney. Remember, metal detectors send a message to visitors. It seems clear to me that Disney has decided they do not want to send that message. And I think they are right.

What you do not know are the tons of plain clothes security people inside DLR who are going on rides and watching shows. I go to DLR with my BIL is in law enforcement in SoCal and does bring his handgun with him everywhere including DLR. He said Disney is very friendly with local law enforcement and actually encourages this. He also told me about the magnitude of plain clothes security there. And this was before September 11.

How often do you hear about security issues at Disney parks? Very rarely even with many millions of visitors. Plain clothes security is huge there.

Another thing that keeps out the riff-raff are higher prices. Cheap tickets and cheap APs at Magic Mtn means the riff-raff to go there rather than more expensive Disney. It never bothers me that much when Disney raises ticket prices. It of course does have a negative effect on some guests, but it also has the positive effect of keeping out trouble makers.
 
My grandpa got the swat team called on him once while shopping with my gramma in a large grocery store...Apparently she had asked him to hold her purse while she went to the bathroom, and he was trying to dig out some more cases of canned dog food that was on sale from the bottom shelf of the aisle... Anyway, he was on his knees on the floor moving cases out and left her big giant bulky black purse sitting near him on the floor. He also apparently had poked his pistol in the back of his waistband that morning as well(he had a concealed weapons permit and carried all the time) and his shirt was riding up and the handle was poking out....some lady saw it and told the manager there was a suspicious old guy with a gun and a bulky bag and it looked like he was trying to hide on the bottom shelf of the aisle...so police came, swat team came, and bombsquad came...and when my gramma came out of the bathroom, there they were with him surrounded, and the bombdogs sniffing her purse....She was so mad at him! Needless to say we got her a smaller, less suspicious looking purse,lol.:rotfl2:
 
We all know the security is a joke because we've been through it so many times. But it may be enough to deter somebody who is looking for a target. Really there is a chance of getting caught, and that might be enough for them to think twice about attacking disneyland.

BTW I agree with the PP about being okay with Captain EO being blown up.
 
My grandpa got the swat team called on him once while shopping with my gramma in a large grocery store...Apparently she had asked him to hold her purse while she went to the bathroom, and he was trying to dig out some more cases of canned dog food that was on sale from the bottom shelf of the aisle... Anyway, he was on his knees on the floor moving cases out and left her big giant bulky black purse sitting near him on the floor. He also apparently had poked his pistol in the back of his waistband that morning as well(he had a concealed weapons permit and carried all the time) and his shirt was riding up and the handle was poking out....some lady saw it and told the manager there was a suspicious old guy with a gun and a bulky bag and it looked like he was trying to hide on the bottom shelf of the aisle...so police came, swat team came, and bombsquad came...and when my gramma came out of the bathroom, there they were with him surrounded, and the bombdogs sniffing her purse....She was so mad at him! Needless to say we got her a smaller, less suspicious looking purse,lol.:rotfl2:

This is so funny!!
 
My grandpa got the swat team called on him once while shopping with my gramma in a large grocery store...Apparently she had asked him to hold her purse while she went to the bathroom, and he was trying to dig out some more cases of canned dog food that was on sale from the bottom shelf of the aisle... Anyway, he was on his knees on the floor moving cases out and left her big giant bulky black purse sitting near him on the floor. He also apparently had poked his pistol in the back of his waistband that morning as well(he had a concealed weapons permit and carried all the time) and his shirt was riding up and the handle was poking out....some lady saw it and told the manager there was a suspicious old guy with a gun and a bulky bag and it looked like he was trying to hide on the bottom shelf of the aisle...so police came, swat team came, and bombsquad came...and when my gramma came out of the bathroom, there they were with him surrounded, and the bombdogs sniffing her purse....She was so mad at him! Needless to say we got her a smaller, less suspicious looking purse,lol.:rotfl2:


I imagine this happening to me sometimes....

My DH carries everywhere, even to the grocery store like your grandpa. Most often it's in his belt or when it's colder outside he'll wear a shoulder holster with a button down shirt over it and just leave the buttons undone. He does his best to "conceal" it even though we live in a state where you are not required to do so as long as you have your license to carry- which he does.

But sometimes, if his pants are too saggy or the belt isn't tight enough, he will put it in my big ol "mommy" purse and I have to suffle it around the grocery store. I've stopped letting him do this but it happened quite frequently in our dating years. Plus, I don't have my concealed weapons permit and really, don't want to go to jail for helping my hubbie out and keeping his pants from falling around his ankles!:rotfl2: Thank goodness no one every saw that thing poking out of my purse!

For awhile DH worked at a gun range as a range saftey officer and was required to carry while at work and to have it visible. This helps ensure the saftey of the range/store and employees and customers there and deter theft/robbery and the like. There were many times that he would stop at the grocery store or 711 while on his way home and just forget that he still had his gun showing. Yikes! People are SO weird when it comes to guns, thank goodness no one called the SWAT team on him!

So I can totally relate to your grandma. She's super lucky that grandpa never put his gun in her purse while at the grocery store and now whenever I go to the bathroom at the store- I'll think of her and laugh!:laughing: Because I can SO see this happening to me one day....
 
I'm honestly shocked DL has never had an international or domestic terrorist incident being that it is such an obvious target... and such a symbol of American culture.

I think they do a good job in balancing the need to provide oversight and safety with keeping the morale and perceptions of the visitors positive.

That said, it is bound to happen... eventually. And no amount of security can guarantee it could be prevented.
 


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