Toddlers Not Wearing Swim Diapers

[jcc0621]

I would not put a swim diaper on a fully potty trained child. I am hoping to have DS fully tained by the time we go in August. We are at the point we we are thisclose, if you know what I mean. I think mostly with him it is he is so involved with whatever he is doing (playing a game, doing a puzzle, or some other activity at daycare or at home that he is afraid that he is going to miss something. Some pixie dust this way would be greatly appreciated

 

[LuvOrlando]

Who cares if you get dirty looks?? Again, not going to alter my life just because someone has a case of not being able to mind their own business.

Maybe your children are different, but I am not explaining to my daughter (who is sooooo proud of the fact that she is big girl and is sooo pround she no longer wears baby diapers) that she must put one on to make the crowd happy..

The very first penny ever coined by the United States had the slogan "MIND YOUR BUSINESS" printed on. Wish I had a pocket full of them to hand out to the many folks who could use that lesson.

Serioulsy though, we ever only had one woman say anything. She was upset that her 4 year old had on the swim diapers and our baby did not. Personally I think she was more upset that her 4 year old was not potty trained.

Honestly, don't worry about. Nobody is going to hassle you.

I am much more worried about toilet trained adults having accidents than I am toilet trained children anyway!

Ummm, my kids swimming in a pool that ends up being someone else's toilet is the business of everyone else in the pool. Have you ever heard of E-coli? Its a new thing, you might want to read up.

edit!

BTW, this isn't directed at the OP who has a new child and hasn't had to pull her baby out of a pool filled with excrement. If she ever did she'd know why the rules are in place. I have had to pull my kids and its gross. Any time your at a pool and the kiddie pool needs to be mysteriously emptied then refilled and you'll know why. I guess I just ran into the Mom who we all have to thank for it.

 

[ilovefh]

Ummm, my kids swimming in a pool that ends up being someone else's toilet is the business of everyone else in the pool. Have you ever heard of E-coli? Its a new thing, you might want to read up.


BTW, this isn't directed at the OP who has a new child and hasn't had to pull her baby out of a pool filled with excrement. If she ever did she'd know why the rules are in place. I have had to pull my kids and its gross. Any time your at a pool and the kiddie pool needs to be mysteriously emptied then refilled and you'll know why. I guess I just ran into the Mom who we all have to thank for it.

Wow!

 

[happygirl]

Ummm, my kids swimming in a pool that ends up being someone else's toilet is the business of everyone else in the pool. Have you ever heard of E-coli? Its a new thing, you might want to read up.


BTW, this isn't directed at the OP who has a new child and hasn't had to pull her baby out of a pool filled with excrement. If she ever did she'd know why the rules are in place. I have had to pull my kids and its gross. Any time your at a pool and the kiddie pool needs to be mysteriously emptied then refilled and you'll know why. I guess I just ran into the Mom who we all have to thank for it.

WOW!! e even with swim diapers on accidents still happen, how do you know the accident youa re talking about the kid didn't have a swim diaper on

 

[happygirl]

and since E-COli was brought up here is how it passed

How is E. coli O157:H7 spread?

The organism can be found on most cattle farms, and it is commonly found in petting zoos and can live in the intestines of healthy cattle, deer, goats, and sheep. Meat can become contaminated during slaughter, and organisms can be accidentally mixed into meat when it is ground. Bacteria present on the cow's udders or on equipment may get into raw milk. In a petting zoo, E.coli O157:H7 can contaminate the ground, railings, feed bins, and fur of the animals.

Eating meat, especially ground beef, that has not been cooked sufficiently to kill E. coli O157:H7 can cause infection. Contaminated meat looks and smells normal. The number of organisms required to cause disease is very small.

Among other known sources of infection are consumption of sprouts, lettuce, spinach, salami, unpasteurized milk and juice.

 

[faindrops27]

For my 1000th post. This is all I have to say. I thought e-coli was also in human excrements. But, if I am wrong. I digress.

 

[LuvOrlando]

and since E-COli was brought up here is how it passed

How is E. coli O157:H7 spread?

The organism can be found on most cattle farms, and it is commonly found in petting zoos and can live in the intestines of healthy cattle, deer, goats, and sheep. Meat can become contaminated during slaughter, and organisms can be accidentally mixed into meat when it is ground. Bacteria present on the cow's udders or on equipment may get into raw milk. In a petting zoo, E.coli O157:H7 can contaminate the ground, railings, feed bins, and fur of the animals.

Eating meat, especially ground beef, that has not been cooked sufficiently to kill E. coli O157:H7 can cause infection. Contaminated meat looks and smells normal. The number of organisms required to cause disease is very small.

Among other known sources of infection are consumption of sprouts, lettuce, spinach, salami, unpasteurized milk and juice.

And from contact with contaminates feces... like when a beautiful little kid out in a kiddie pool with the parents puts his or her hand in their mouth because they are teething and the water is contaminated.

Yes, accidents happen and can't always be avoided. I doubt anyone would blame a parent for an honest accident as in "everything possible was done yet it happened anyway". Then you clean the pool and move on. What isn't cool is the attitude of 'mind your own business' when someone's behavior can hurt other people, not caring about other people isn't ok, especially where kids are concerned..... at least it isn't ok to me.

 

[dopeysgirl]

wow! this board can get intense! just thought id offer my 2 cents....
i agree that rules are rules. that being said, people who make the rules arent always the smartest of the bunch. both of my children were fully potty trained w/out accidents (unless they got a stomach bug) by age 2.5. so, fast forward 1.5 years and we try to join a pool or stay at a hotel and the rule is 4 and under wears swim diaper- we dont join or stay there or swim there because thats ridiculous. change the rule to potty trained for at least 1 yr before no longer requiring swim diaper or something like that.

cause the "special swim underwear" might have worked on dd but no way on ds- hes not wearing a diaper when he "gave his to the neigbor baby" (great trick to lose diapers and not look back!) in fact, shortly after he was newly trained and had on a swim diaper (at sesame place), he hopped out of the pool screaming "I got to pee!". so we beelined for the potty. the lifeguard told dh "hes probably the only PERSON to actually get out to do that!" now thats gross.

so, orlandoluvr, irresponsible grown ups can spread germs too (public bathrooms, anyone?). each mommy & daddy should know their child (can they swim in grandmas or the neighbors pool w/out accidents?) and should act accordingly. i think its the goal of almost all (some dont have a clue) to do the right thing and teach their child the right thing. i would do what i have to do to ensure my kids dont poop in a pool (be that a swim diaper or whatever) because i want other parents to do the same. and that applies with all things.

so, i think the "mind your business" attitude isnt because we're being rude, but rather the other person is for shooting us looks or whatever and ASSUMING that we've done something wrong-without knowing the full story!

and thats my opinion, take it with a grain of salt!

 

[TinkerbellMama]

If it were me I'd probably just put one on to avoid trouble. Its only a few days after all and diapers aren't all that expensive.

Well, while I can appreciate your point, that is just not going to happen. For starters, he will have been completely diaper-free for nearly 9 months at that point. I wouldn't make a five year old wear a diaper, so why make a younger child who is just as trained wear one? Theoretically, the five year old could have an accident as well, but no one expects him/her to wear a diaper in the pool! Secondly, we ALWAYS visit the potty before swimming--even my husband and I do that, so as to avoid having to get out 5 minutes later when we have to "go"! Thirdly, he won't even pee in the bathtub. He waits and/or asks to get out first, then uses the toilet. Sometimes he even gets back in the bathtub and continues playing afterwards, LOL! Lastly, he has never worn disposable diapers (we used cloth exclusively, even on vacation) and I am not about to make my completely potty-learned child wear a paper/plastic diaper for the first time in his life just so other people (who have absolutely no idea what's going on, really) will not raise eyebrows. I know they do make non-disposable swim diapers, but that would be even more expensive and pointless as he would never wear it again! That is why I have asked for information regarding WHETHER people are likely to say something (other guests, CMs) and WHAT I should/could say in response. I'm not talking about a child who will be BARELY potty-trained at the time of our visit. We just took a weeklong trip to Washington, DC and Virginia and took absolutely no diapers with us...and it wasn't a problem. He doesn't even sleep in a diaper and hasn't for a very long time (he actually night-learned FIRST, believe it or not). Thanks for all the advice so far, everyone!

ETA: I am ignoring the snarky replies about feces and all that other nasty stuff because, well, life is too short to get caught up in the negativity. My kid won't poop (or pee) in the pool. Period. Move on!

 

[cuppycake]

What isn't cool is the attitude of 'mind your own business' when someone's behavior can hurt other people, not caring about other people isn't ok, especially where kids are concerned..... at least it isn't ok to me.

Uh....what am I missing here? If the kid is POTTY TRAINED, then what is the issue? How exactly can not putting a POTTY TRAINED kid in a swim diaper hurt other people???

And what about hurting the child? Emotionally, a child could feel really bad about themselves if they are PT and have to put one of those diapers on...why would you do that to a kid?

I have a two year old who will most likely be PT by the time we go in Sept, as she is just about there now. I will absolutely NOT put her in a diaper to make someone else feel better. That's NUTS, IMHO!

What about these scenarios...

The 6 year old that wipes their own rear after going potty, and doesn't do a great job of it, then gets in the pool.

The mom who forgets to change a swimmy diaper on a 10 month old for a while, then the 10 month old takes a poo...instant OVERFLOW! Those things don't hold much.

I mean seriously...it's CRAZY how much YUCK gets into a public pool. My potty trained child, who's rear I wipe, is not a contributor.

And, for what it's worth, my girls have both been swimming since they were a couple of months old, and neither of them has EVER pooped in a swimmy diaper. It's like the water makes it stop or something! This is the case for most of my friends' children as well.

 

[TheDisneyClan]

Have you ever heard of E-coli? Its a new thing, you might want to read up.

I guess I just ran into the Mom who we all have to thank for it.

My, aren't we a tad cranky? At least now I know why the US government used that very first motto on the very first penny.

Hmmmm. You might want to take a breath and read all the posts again?

We are discussing swim diapers not being needed for children who are totally, completely potty trained.

But thanks anyway.

 

[TheDisneyClan]

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so, i think the "mind your business" attitude isnt because we're being rude, but rather the other person is for shooting us looks or whatever and ASSUMING that we've done something wrong-without knowing the full story!

ETA: I am ignoring the snarky replies about feces and all that other nasty stuff because, well, life is too short to get caught up in the negativity. My kid won't poop (or pee) in the pool. Period. Move on!

Uh....what am I missing here? If the kid is POTTY TRAINED, then what is the issue? How exactly can not putting a POTTY TRAINED kid in a swim diaper hurt other people???

And what about hurting the child? Emotionally, a child could feel really bad about themselves if they are PT and have to put one of those diapers on...why would you do that to a kid?

I will absolutely NOT put her in a diaper to make someone else feel better. That's NUTS, IMHO!

What about these scenarios...

The 6 year old that wipes their own rear after going potty, and doesn't do a great job of it, then gets in the pool.

The mom who forgets to change a swimmy diaper on a 10 month old for a while, then the 10 month old takes a poo...instant OVERFLOW! Those things don't hold much.

I mean seriously...it's CRAZY how much YUCK gets into a public pool. My potty trained child, who's rear I wipe, is not a contributor.

Exactly to all of the above!

Some people will never mind their own business or get off their soap boxes long enough to deal with things in a logical way.

Agree completely. If a child is completely potty trained, there is just no reason to put him/her in a swim diaper. I would reiterate to the OP, not to worry or stress. Very little chance anyone will give you anykind of a hassle. It will certainly not be Disney, but rather some other nosey guest. Nothing that a quiet, yet firm "Mind your own business" will not take of.

 

[WildGrits]

Speaking as the mother of a child who did close a pool in Myrtle Beach once, if the rules state swiming diaper till a certain age I would abide by that.

I don't think it demoralizes a child who is pt'ed to wear a swiming diaper. I would get a nice non disposable one. They are very nice and look just like a swim suit.


If the pool rules are as such, isn't one who doesn't follow them showing their children that not all rules apply to them?

 

[cuppycake]

If the pool rules are as such, isn't one who doesn't follow them showing their children that not all rules apply to them?

Never said I wouldn't follow the rules. Actually, I don't think anyone said anything about *breaking rules*

Never heard of such a rule (less than a certain age must wear a swim diaper) at Disney

On a personal note, if that were the rule (under 3 or 4 MUST wear a swim diaper), we would choose not to swim there. I would not buy a "special suit" for my potty trained child to wear...but that's just me.

I really don't get the issue...they are either TRAINED or they're NOT-if they are still having accidents, then they clearly are NOT, and this thread does not apply

 

[WildGrits]

Never said I wouldn't follow the rules. Actually, I don't think anyone said anything about *breaking rules*

Never heard of such a rule (less than a certain age must wear a swim diaper) at Disney

On a personal note, if that were the rule (under 3 or 4 MUST wear a swim diaper), we would choose not to swim there. I would not buy a "special suit" for my potty trained child to wear...but that's just me.

I really don't get the issue...they are either TRAINED or they're NOT-if they are still having accidents, then they clearly are NOT, and this thread does not apply

I am very confused by this response.

I was commenting to the OP.

I never even said your name so how you thought I was talking about you or your kin stumps me.

My last statement about not following the rules:
If the pool rules are as such, isn't one who doesn't follow them showing their children that not all rules apply to them?
How did you possibly take that personally?

This was a general statement. I do know of pools with this rule.

I know this might be under the heading TMI but if having an accident means your not potty trained then saddy at 37 year I am not Potty Trained. It was all that shrimp!!!!

 

[Oceana]

I have a almost 4 year old and an almost 2 year old and have never ever not even once used a disposable swim diaper nor have I ever been asked. My now 4 year old has been potty learned since he was 18 months. My almost 2 year old would be except he is totally nonverbal and it is alot harder to communicate potty need when you dont talk

for both my boys I used cloth swim diaper trunks (it has a PUL layer instead of mesh) They do not look like a swim diaper at all! from birth... it is just what I looked for in a swim suit... up to age 2... my 2 year old will be on one on our next trip but certainly my 4 year old will not

because most people use the disposable kind I would figure in 4 years someone would have asked me about my swim diaper or given me a dirty look and in 4 years neither has ever happened. I have never even been asked. Not at a public pool, not at our local Y, not at disney, not at a swim park.

also in 4 years neither of my boys have ever pooped while in water... be it the pool or the tub.

I wouldnt worry about it or what other people think... you will be having so much fun with your kid you wont notice even if someone gives you a dirty look or snickers behind your back... and the disney karma fairy (tinkerbells sister) will deal with them in her own way.

julie

 

[dhardawa]

Personally, I have no problems with a child not in a swim diaper if s/he is potty trained. But, I'm not DW and I don't get to make thier rules! Actually, I have never quite understood the reasoning behind the swim diaper. If the child poops, the water is still flowing in and out of the swim diaper, therefore, still transferring the bacteria into the pool. I don't see how it is different than when a kid poops in a bathing suit. Maybe someone can educate me!

 

[katerkat]

for both my boys I used cloth swim diaper trunks (it has a PUL layer instead of mesh) They do not look like a swim diaper at all! from birth... it is just what I looked for in a swim suit... up to age 2... my 2 year old will be on one on our next trip but certainly my 4 year old will not

because most people use the disposable kind I would figure in 4 years someone would have asked me about my swim diaper or given me a dirty look and in 4 years neither has ever happened. I have never even been asked. Not at a public pool, not at our local Y, not at disney, not at a swim park.

Yeah, I was about to say, for close to 8 months, my son's swimsuit had the diaper inside - no need for the disposable and it didn't *look* like he was wearing a diaper. No one commented on it, in several hotel pools and countless swim classes.

 

[tlens]

My son was pt'ed before age 3. Completely...day and night. No way would I put him in a diaper now just to make others feel more secure.

 

[SnowWhite12]

How can they even tell if they have one on or not? I put a swim diaper on DD2, but I always put her swimsuit on over it; so you can't even see the swim diaper. What do they do, inspect? Or are people just letting their kids run around the pool area in a swim diaper only?