To Those DVC Naysayers....

grimley1968 said:
This is exactly why we won't buy into DVC, or any timeshare for that matter. We love all things Disney now, but that may well not be the case when my kids become teenagers (I hated Disney as a teen).

There's always the option of your kids "inheriting" DVC from you when you pass on, but then they're stuck with the maintenance fees for however many years are left in the contract, and they may not consider it to be such a great legacy at that point, especially if they don't enjoy Disney as much as we do now that they're 6 years old & 2 years old, respectively.
Thank you very much for your honesty, my kids went to wdw one time in their lives when they were little - they told me they want to go again, so this will probably be our last vacation before they are grown up! - Yes, I'm a little bit: :sad1: and a little bit: :banana: (They are 17 and 15). thanks again!!

- mary
 
MARY-IN-OH said:
I imagine there might be folks who are gung ho vacation at 40, (I know I am) but later in life, 50's - or 60's, maybe 70's - who knows what the future will bring.

mary

I resemble that remark ;) and my wife and I go twice a year. Great, cheap, relaxing vacation with excellent accomodations ;)
 
MARY-IN-OH said:
Thank you very much for your honesty, my kids went to wdw one time in their lives when they were little - they told me they want to go again, so this will probably be our last vacation before they are grown up! - Yes, I'm a little bit: :sad1: and a little bit: :banana: (They are 17 and 15). thanks again!!

- mary

Don't be too sure. Both of our kids are grown (DD 25 and DS 19). We can see the frown :sad1: on their faces when we tell them we are going (she has work, he is in school). Ooops, too bad ;)

DS just went with us in March with a friend. We had a 2 BR at OKW. They had a ball and are ready to go back. DD is going with us in November. She can't wait!
 
We met our DS (25) at SSR last December for a early holiday celebration (he's in MI, we're now in AZ) and he loved it! We did parks together in the morning, kicked back together in the afternoon, then we split up at night. He spent some time every evening at DTD/PI/WE - another of the benefits of SSR that will be seen as more valuable as owners (and owners' children) age....
 

MARY-IN-OH said:
Can I ask you all something? If you purchase into DVC, and say some years down the road, you either phyically can't or don't want to go anymore, do you picture yourselves letting family use your points (forever), or do you think you would just sell your points? I imagine there might be folks who are gung ho vacation at 40, (I know I am) but later in life, 50's - or 60's, maybe 70's - who knows what the future will bring.

thanks
mary


I've been going to WDW since it opened in '72...I've easily been more than 50 times, heck maybe even 75....

DS, 4, is going to have to buy his own points! I plan to be sitting on my OKW balcony when I'm in my 80s!
 
I am hoping to surprise these kids by knockin' their socks off! (Thanks to all of YOU, of course!) - My DH has been a "no way" to WDW guy for this trip. Well, I casually showed him the 360 degree of your 1BR with jacuzzi and patio, sure can't wait to sit on your patio! (have rented OKW). we'll see how well I hook 'em, and hopefully, reel them right in!! I suppose it could happen. Either way, I'll have a great time! (oh, I didn't tell ya my oldest DD, who lives on her own has given me thee fun grand-kids - ages 4, 3, and 6mos, I can take them soon too!)
 
DrTomorrow said:
Which really begs the question "Does a plain old Disney trip ever make financial sense?" While I certainly see the personal value in a Disney trip, I don't know if anyone can create the spreadsheet that justifies spending $1000-3000 or more for a weeklong WDW vacation as opposed to investing the money. The image that comes to mind is Jack Skellington trying to discover the meaning of Christmas by boiling candy canes and performing autopsies on stuffed animals....

As with anything Disneywise for a Vacation there is no need to rationalize why we go, or how much we spend on these trips. We are just know there is a special brand of "Magic" in store for us with each trip. Yes you pay through the nose for the experience and Investing any dollars in the market, retirement system or even your own home is a far better strategy for sure - but everyone takes vacations at some point ! so why not stay somewhere first class - that gives you maximum flexibility to adjust your stays, break up your points instead of using it as one block, trade out to other resorts and something that gives you discounts inside the resort regardless of purchasing an AP or not.

Granted it is expensive, but for our Family it is really a vacation experience we enjoy a great deal and we have it "reserved" until 2039 - I'll be 70 years old then and probably still travelling to visit Mickey every chance I get. I have owened and will own in the future other timeshares - I will proably add on points to my DVC timeshare also. I see the benefit everytime i want to trade my points in for a stay at Disneyland or trade out for a cruise, etc - we always have options, options options.

For those people that rent some or all of there points out - Are you taking advantage of the potential tax benefits of this arrangement? It is possible claim most or all of your maintenance fees and annual state taxes on the timeshare just by proactively selling (or at least intending to sell) some of your stake out each year. Although this is not a 100% recovery and does require some extra paperwork at tax time the benifits of writing off some of those annual fees makes the cost recovery of your ownership stake and ongoing annual fees much quicker and more pallatable in the future once you reach the break even point.

The best part about this is these tax benefits can be applied to any timeshare you purchase not just DVC of course and most of the associated fees (II Membership, ICE Gallery, Red Points, Etc.) can be applied as "cost of doing business" as long as a portion of your timeshare is available for renting. It's not a perfect catch all situation, but gives you another avenue to considering adding on an owenership stake or another timeshare altogether.

Bottomline - Disney is probably the most expensive timeshare on the market, it is certainly one of the most flexible usage wise. Sure, there are less expense options that allow almost equal trade in's to DVC properties and far better trade out's from DVC to other resorts.

But for the entertainment dollars our family has to spend and the # of times we can actually get away from work for a week! (Believe me that is tough to do!!) this gave us a focused vacation product in an area(s) we most like to visit.

Yes, DVC is an expensive option, it is better to invest your money in other vehicles instead of vacations for sure, but at least when you Buy a DVC timeshare you get fair presentation of the costs and benefits to your ownership stake. I have seen many other timeshare presentations and the "Pressure Selling" that is involved - can't say that happened when I pourchased my DVC stake.

thanks,
whiles
 
Theoretically, my great-grandchildren will be able to take a Disney trip using my points. And I don't plan on getting too old for Disney. I plan on being able to ride Summit Plummet in my 70s! Even if we don't go to the parks, we still have prepaid lodging in Orlando, Vero, or HH. Every year. I'm already looking forward to when our kids go to college (they're 11 and 9) so that we can go down without any time constraints!

Forty years from now they'll be brain-storming on the Budget Board about how to stay at an All-Star resort for under $300/night. I'll be staying in a DVC resort, which ain't no Value, with my inflation-resistant points.
 
holcomb-mania said:
Theoretically, my great-grandchildren will be able to take a Disney trip using my points. And I don't plan on getting too old for Disney. I plan on being able to ride Summit Plummet in my 70s! Even if we don't go to the parks, we still have prepaid lodging in Orlando, Vero, or HH. Every year. I'm already looking forward to when our kids go to college (they're 11 and 9) so that we can go down without any time constraints!

Forty years from now they'll be brain-storming on the Budget Board about how to stay at an All-Star resort for under $300/night. I'll be staying in a DVC resort, which ain't no Value, with my inflation-resistant points.


Amen!
 





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