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[M&N]

I had a fatal error when posting the last post...must have been JO's fault...hers was at the same time!!!

 

[MagiKitty]

You're absolutely right...Kate claims she's doing all of this for her kids and their future, which is admirable. But they're only going to be young once and they're missing out on spending time with her as a parent, not as a brand. I"m sure they've grown close to the crew, but still, and especially as a single parent, its important to foster that relationship with her children.

Although it seems to have been a smart decision to get rid of Jon. He's been nothing but a scumbag since the divorce, dating inappropriate women and hanging out with Lindsay Lohan's Dad--another great father figure.

 

[JOCAmom]

M&N, sure always blame me for computer problems.

Jon has come across as nothing but a big *** through this whole thing. I use to feel sorry for him when they were together but not anymore. I don't care how horrible your life is, you don't cheat. Leave, break up and then find someone else new. I think that's pretty simple.

I wonder what the kids are going to think of all this years down the line. I can't imagine they will have an easy social life.

 

[MagiKitty]

The one good thing from the show is that the kids will have proof of what happened in their parents' relationship and can judge for themselves. They say its difficult for multiples to establish individual relationships outside of the family dynamic. I do hope that Kate and Jon are fostering those. Yes, its great to be with family, but socially, the kids need to develop into their own little persons.

I know a few seasons back that Kate and Jon were taking each child out individually and that was really good of them.

 

[MagiKitty]

Even with my twins, they're very dependant on each other. While its really cute, they had to make an effort to become their own person. I also think it was easier since they were boy-girl. I can't imagine how it must be to have all of them.

 

[JOCAmom]

I think having the proof of what happened will be both good and bad. They'll be able to form their own opinions about what happened which is good. I always picture Kate as being the vindictive type who will place any and all blame on Jon.

But with the kids being able to view what happened to their parents marriage, there will come a time when they realize everybody is/was able to view what happened to their parents' marriage. I think that will be hard pill to swallow knowing that your family drama was played for millions of people and you (the kids) did have any say in it.

I bet they let those instances of spending special time with mom or dad fall to the wayside. When would they have time? Dad's too busy being 18 again and sleazing around. And Mom is busy traveling the country, getting her hair done, etc.

 

[M&N]

M&N, sure always blame me for computer problems.

I am just interacting with my fellow TKers!

I used to feel sorry for Jon too...not I think he was just a wimp!

I think it's sad that she's proud of their interactions with the crew...what about grandparents...friends? I think she cut off grandparents and of course who could be a real friend to her as selfish as she is...only thinking of herself?

 

[MagiKitty]

JO, we're old school. We're actually shocked that people put so much of their private lives out there for everyone. Sadly, a lot of kids are used to having so much public scrutiny. Some of them are actually seeking it. I know I like to share things here with all of you, but having a camera crew invade my life? No way...

 

[MagiKitty]

The grandparents issue is very mysterious. But at the very least, Kate and Jon should have a wider circle of support other than TLC. Maybe they do, I don't know. It would be good for the kids to have more love and family and friends.

 

[M&N]

JO, we're old school. We're actually shocked that people put so much of their private lives out there for everyone. Sadly, a lot of kids are used to having so much public scrutiny. Some of them are actually seeking it. I know I like to share things here with all of you, but having a camera crew invade my life? No way...

We got to know each other through here before we shared a lot of stuff. Plus most people who could come here and snoop really don't know who we are...like they do Jon and Kate. We've met and our friendship has expanded. I don't see that she has any of that. I know people who have known her way back and didn't like her then. Now, how does she know who would really like her or do they like the attention she gets? The price of fame isn't all it is cracked up to be...not worth it as far as I am concerned.

 

[JOCAmom]

M&N, I picture Jon just like an 18 year old who has the world's most strict parents. Never been allowed to have a thought of his own and had to obey every little rule or else. Then they break free one day and can't think straight with the freedom they have now. Except he isn't 18 and every decision he makes now affects the lives of those 8 kids. Time to grow up and to think with the head on his shoulders.

MK, I could never have someone here to film us. I would go crazy and I hate having my privacy invaded. And to me, that's what it is. Sharing things here it totally different. We have control over what we post. Those kids had no say in any of this.

Wasn't it Maddie who had the meltdowns on the show pretty frequently? I wonder if other kids from her school saw that and she was teased because of it? That's the part I couldn't live with.

 

[JOCAmom]

Do they even have any close family left that they talk to? I never heard an explanation about the grandparents. And from what I remember, Aunt Jodie (?) isn't around anymore either. Are there any mention of other family members being involved with their lives?

 

[MagiKitty]

One of the twins was hyper-aware early on about the fame and acted out, I think. Understandably so. Having six additional siblings is huge to adjust to, and then to have people in your home, involved in everything must be so difficult.

I'm even embarrassed at home movies, I can't imagine having so much out there for public scrutiny and opinion. That's the saddest part. The kids have so much out there before they even open their mouths. Its going to be so difficult in an already difficult world.

There's a show on tv right now and the mom has the baby in a car seat sitting on top of the shopping cart. Are they supposed to do that? There's no chance of it falling over? I am so clueless when it comes to babies.

 

[MagiKitty]

It got ugly with Aunt Jodie and her husband (Kate's brother). They were the ones who were publicly denouncing having the kids on the show. Claimed it violated child labor laws..although they didn't seem to object when they were on the show. Even testified in hearings about it--not against Kate specifically, but against children on reality shows.

 

[M&N]

Now this is just hearsay...but I thought the grandparents were cut off a long time ago. Kate didn't want clothing donated to them from people here because they didn't match. And this was before the show. She knew what she wanted then...made a lot of people realize how she was.

 

[M&N]

One of the twins had a hissy fit (don't like to say meltdown because it was her temperment, not the situation) because she had to go to school (KDG)when they were filming. She wanted to be home. She enjoyed being the center of attention then. Don't know how it is now.

 

[MagiKitty]

Sadly, its entirely believable. I watched the early episodes a few weeks ago (it was on Netflix) and the people they were compared to the last season is mind-boggling.

I'd hope she's have enough sense to donate all the clothes the kids are growing out of. Someone could greatly benefit from it.

 

[JOCAmom]

MK, the car seat thing is not safe. It makes the cart very easy to tip over. But when we first had Jackie, we did it. You walked into every store and that's how it was. And there were some car seat manuals that said it was ok and safe. I call it uninformed parenting.

I remember hearing things about how Kate wasn't so nice even back before the show started. She was very specific about what she wanted and everything else be damned.

 

[MagiKitty]

ah, so now I know too! It just didn't look right to me.

Despite all of this, I still watch reality television. There was a commercial for Toddlers and Tiaras--that's some scary stuff! Not even the fact that some of these children look like squashed 45 year olds with their spray tans and overdone makeup, but the way the adults conduct themselves! C-R-A-Z-Y.

ooh, and Big Brother should start soon. I'm sad to admit it, but I enjoy those antics way too much. But at least they're adults and they're supposed to know what they're doing.

 

[M&N]

I thought some car seats have indents underneath to fit the bars on the carts. I guess nothing is safe unless a belt is around it. I really would not want to put a baby in those germie carts though. What should you do?