Tips for a shipboard emergency while on a cruise.

What are you going to do when they enforce women and children first and your family gets separated?

I don't see the issue if my wife and kids are going on the lifeboat and it is being safely launched!


Your in a emergency....its dangerous at best and you have to give and take, you can't have everything your own way!

AKK
 
Since this tragedy with the Costa Concordia I thought it would be helpful to have thread with tips on what to do in an emergency situation while on board. As a former Navy/insurance/Red Cross volunteer guy, I am hardwired as a "hope for the best, prepare for the worse" sort. I have seen tips spread out through various threads but not in one concise location. Looking for help from Truck1, Tonka's Skipper, Extechie and any other people trained in emergency procedures. Also looking for opinions as to whether or not this even concerns some people.

My tips are as follows.

Check your stateroom life preservers for amount and sizes.
Keep cell phone handy for a source of light.

I am very concerned! People need to be aware that those with disabilities and small children are not always considered in safety preparedness plans (although Disney has high ratings, and from what I've seen does do a good job of this.)

If you have somebody in a wheelchair, he or she needs to know:

* What to do if he or she is not in their stateroom, or are on a different floor. (No elevators!)

* If he or she can't put on his or her life jacket independently, where to go for help, if he or she can be separate from a caregiver for periods of time.

* I always carry my enhanced ID (it's not a passport, and won't work from an international destination other than Mexico or Canada, but it will confirm my identity), a credit card, medical insurance card, travel insurance information, and KTTW card in a lanyard around my neck. Unless this will cause problems for the wheelchair bound person, I'd recommend it.
 
Does anyone know what the plan is for the kids in the kid's clubs in case of an emergency? Do parents go get their kids or do the CM's evacuate them to their own life boat? I would hate to have all the parents running to the clubs in case of an emergency only to find it empty. :confused3



It is my understanding the the CM's in the clubs will bring the little kids to their muster stations and hand themover to the parents!

This has to be one of the srarest parts of a emergency like that!

AKK
 
Does anyone know what the plan is for the kids in the kid's clubs in case of an emergency? Do parents go get their kids or do the CM's evacuate them to their own life boat? I would hate to have all the parents running to the clubs in case of an emergency only to find it empty. :confused3

Crew members are not on lifeboats - they are on life rafts.

It really depends on how far along they are in emergency and what type. They will page all parents to pick up children from the clubs. If it's to the point where children have not been picked up and they need to evacuate, the children will be brought to the families assembly station (which is actually written on the child's club wristband).

If you need more information on that, ask a youth CM when you board. They will be able to tell you their exact up to date policies on emergency evacuations.
 

CMs take you child to your muster station where you meet them although in an emergency the first thing I would do is run to get my kids sorry to say

I probably would too. Unfortunately, in a real emergency people (including crew) often don't behave as they should. Look up the MTS Oceanos on wiki...the crew absconded from the sinking ship before anyone else got off! (The on-board entertainment ended up supervising the rescue.)
 
Crew members are not on lifeboats - they are on life rafts.

It really depends on how far along they are in emergency and what type. They will page all parents to pick up children from the clubs. If it's to the point where children have not been picked up and they need to evacuate, the children will be brought to the families assembly station (which is actually written on the child's club wristband).

If you need more information on that, ask a youth CM when you board. They will be able to tell you their exact up to date policies on emergency evacuations.



I can't help but wonder where you got the idea crew member are not on lifeboats...........there are always a number of crew mwmbers located both for and aft and at the least run the boats....unless you think the average passinger has the ability to run a 80' lifeboat in heavy seas or at night?......handle it to bring people in the water along side and take them out of the water?


Yes all passingers are set to go in lifeboats and crew members as well as space permits.


To be very frank..theres advantages to being in a liferaft.

AKK



AKK
 
What would happen if you didn't go to you assigned muster station? Assuming a true emergency...my baby is booked in the room with my dad. I'm sure as heck not going to run all over the boat trying to find him or his muster station to drop off the baby and then go back to my own muster station.

Am I to correctly assume they'd let him in my lifeboat? are there infant vests at every station?
 
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Ok here's my thoughts.

In the unlikely event of an emergency, IMO unless the vessel was involved in a direct head on collision with another vessel or dock and in obvious danger of sinking immediately, the general alarm would not be sounded straight away.
Emergency teams would be sent to assess or deal with what ever emergency it was.
Do not panic and respond to any emergency pages made for crew.
Guest's would be instructed (most likely via the emergency paging system, speaker's in all Stateroom's, venues, general area's and deck's) to either return to their Stateroom or just stay put where ever they are.
Once whatever situation has been assessed and only then if necessary would the general alarm be sounded. In addition I would expect several message's instructing you to do certain thing's, walk don't run, go immediately to your assigned lifeboat station and the like.
Try to keep as calm as possible and even stop and listen to the announcements if necessary. They maybe telling you NOT to go to a certain area!
Do not go in search of other family members or people within your party. Go to the assigned lifeboat station and meet there.
If you are instructed to return to your Stateroom or are already in there, bring flat soled shoes, any medication and warm clothing along with your lifejacket.

Once at your lifeboat station, keep as quiet as possible and listen to the CM's instructions.
You may not ever actually need to board the lifeboat as the situation may change and be brought under control.
If instructed to board the lifeboat, do so in an orderly manor. The boat need's to be loaded evenly, Stateroom number checked off so listen to the CM's and do as they say.

Unless you are on a TA crossing, you are only a few hours away from other ship's and vessels.
The lifeboats are emergency equipment and rations onboard, water and energy food bar's along with flashlight's, flares, mirrors for signalling etc.

As someone else mentioned about knowing how many seats between your's and the emergency exit on a plane, know where the nearest staircase is to your Stateroom.


In regard's to jumping.....
It really should be a last last resort. If you do decide to jump in the water, as posted above slide as much as possible.
DO NOT wear you lifejacket if jumping more than 12 feet or so. It could break your neck as the bottom of the jacket hit's the water. Instead have it done up, and put one arm thru the head hole and on your shoulder. Cross your arms across your chest and pinch your nose with one hand, and cross your leg's whilst jumping.
Once in the water, then put your life jack on and try to find anything to help you float. The light on the lifejacket will come on once exposed to salt water. Use your whistle to attract attention if necessary.

Having a flashlight in the cabin is a good idea. I wouldn't carry one around the ship personally unless it was on a keyring.
The ship has emergency lighting that run's on batteries (locally and remotely) in the event of power failure. As I mentioned in a previous thread, there is low level led lighting on all Guest staircases, emergency exits along with the exit signs. Fluorescent strip's will be found in some of the crew area's you may be directed to use in an emergency.

The most important advice I can offer is that although it would be very very scary, try to keep calm, and listen to announcements over the P.A, loudhailer and from the CM's.

Ex Techie :)
 
I don't care how high Disney's ratings are. Human nature being what it is trumps a PLAN each and every time. Had their been a fire, the loss of life would have been far worse.

The amount of ignorant speculation by the media is embarrassing, but it is the same way with any mass event such as this!
 
I can't help but wonder where you got the idea crew member are not on lifeboats...........there are always a number of crew mwmbers located both for and aft and at the least run the boats....unless you think the average passinger has the ability to run a 80' lifeboat in heavy seas or at night?......handle it to bring people in the water along side and take them out of the water?


Yes all passingers are set to go in lifeboats and crew members as well as space permits.


To be very frank..theres advantages to being in a liferaft.

AKK



AKK

Oh I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough in my post. The MAJORITY of crew are on liferafts (including most of the Youth CM's - as the previous poster was asking if the Youth CM's would take children on the CM lifeboats). There are crew and officers on life boats to perform the emergency functions as you described.
 
I want to reiterate the need to check on proper sizing for life jackets. Our DD is small for her age and when she was 12, there was an adult sized life jacket for her in our stateroom. At the drill, a castmember noticed it was huge on her (this was back when you had to wear your life jackets to the drill) and arranged to have a child-sized jacket sent to our cabin. If we had needed to rely on the original jacket, it would have come right off of her.

So parents- please check the fit of the jackets for your kids and make sure they fit!
 
One thing I keep hearing over and over again is that some of the staff told the Costa passengers that everything was fine, go back to your room. That's the same thing the 911 survivors repeated frequently too. Some of the fire fighters told them to go back to their offices instead of trying to go down stairs and out of the building.

My take on these emergencies is that to a certain extent, you have to follow your instincts and not necessarily that of a 20 year old crew member telling you everything is fine. If I hear the ship hitting something and then all the lights go out, no way would I head back to my room and "stay there." I would grab the life jackets and get to the muster station OUTSIDE (not in the lounge) as soon as I could. I think common sense has to be used in these situations.

Also, I would never listen to the "ladies and children first" nonsense. In today's day and age, the only people who need to get into lifeboats first are the disabled. Everyone else should stick together as a family. What if we are 200 miles from the nearest coast? I would heavily rely on my husband to help me through the ordeal, both physically and emotionally, especially if I have children. I would never allow some crew member to tell me to go ahead while he stayed behind. This is not the 1940s and there is no reasonable place for this lame, antiquated tradition.

I do pack a small flashlight on all my cruises, but given that I don't even walk around with my keys/cel/money during the actual cruise (just my keycard usually), I normally keep the flashlight in the dresser drawer next to my bed with my meds in the cabin. I figure in case of emergency, there should be enough time to go back to the cabin, grab the life vest and grab the flashlight and meds.

JMHO of course. Katherine
 
You can get a good, strong LED flashlight that is smaller than most cell phones. I have one attached to my keychain and I bought it for $5. I've had it for about 3 years and it works like a charm. It goes everywhere my purse does. My husband has one that he carries in his pocket.

As well as mini flash lights, glow sticks are also useful and fun for deck parties at night.
 
Also, I would never listen to the "ladies and children first" nonsense. In today's day and age, the only people who need to get into lifeboats first are the disabled. Everyone else should stick together as a family. What if we are 200 miles from the nearest coast? I would heavily rely on my husband to help me through the ordeal, both physically and emotionally, especially if I have children. I would never allow some crew member to tell me to go ahead while he stayed behind. This is not the 1940s and there is no reasonable place for this lame, antiquated tradition.

No one makes you get on the lifeboat. If you want to be the next to the last person off a sinking ship, that is your prerogative.
But if I told my DH that the kids and I were staying with him until he could get on the lifeboat, he'd knock me unconscious and toss me on. :lmao:


Just wanted to add that extechie rbd/wdt gave the best advice in this thread. Keep your cool and listen to instructions.
 
I know this is a post where I should post tips but I have a question pertaining to an accident similar to what just happened...

What happens when half of the lifeboats, and presumably half of the muster stations are going or already under water?
(maybe there was some time once the ship started keeling to still have the lifeboats board and descended into the water before that side was submerged in water... I have only seen the pics of it fully submerged).
 
I know this is a post where I should post tips but I have a question pertaining to an accident similar to what just happened...

What happens when half of the lifeboats, and presumably half of the muster stations are going or already under water?
(maybe there was some time once the ship started keeling to still have the lifeboats board and descended into the water before that side was submerged in water... I have only seen the pics of it fully submerged).

There is enough lifeboats and liferaft on each side for 100% of the poeple omboard....

AKK
 
There is enough lifeboats and liferaft on each side for 100% of the poeple omboard....

AKK

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I think this thread would be best left to tip's and questions and asnwers rather than people posting comment's about what one would do in the case of an emergency however. I think that is what the OP wanted.

Ex Techie :)
 
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I think this thread would be best left to tip's and questions and asnwers rather than people posting comment's about what one would do in the case of an emergency however. I think that is what the OP wanted.

Ex Techie :)

I'm the OP and really wanted tips on what to do in a shipboard emergency. I was not expecting people to say they would blatantly disregard orders that would affect the safety of themselves or fellow passengers. As to a previous poster about keeping the family intact, if they call a "women and children first" order. I'm thinking her husband would not feel to good about himself if lifeboats were in short supply and he took the place of child that could have been evacuated. Tips will still be welcomed, I really don't want this to be a behavior thread.
 
This is an informative thread, but I have a question, why did DCL stop making everyone wear their life preservers to the drill? Do you think in view of the recent tragedy they may reinstate this rule? We were just on our first cruise last summer and I'll be honest we didn't even give much thought to the drill ,except to note that it was very crowded at our muster station. We'll be MUCH more attentive in June.
 
It was a change in legislation AFAIK brought about by Carnival and others.
It was claimed that too many people hurt themselves tripping over the straps.
I would hope DCL do reinstate it, but who knows.
Additionally, there is nothing to stop you bringing your lifejacket's to the drill and following the CM's instructions practice putting on your lifejacket and making sure it fit's properly.
I would advise everyone to carry them there and then "test fit" them during the drill, but that is just IMO.

Ex Techie :)
 

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