Tipping on new dining plan

[yitbos96bb]

This isn't to discuss the merits or how much... now that people have used the new plan, please someone tell me the logistics of tipping on said plan? Do they charge it to the room? only take cash? How does it work?

 

[just another guy]

Lets pretend you never tell the server you are on the DDP, and you never mentioned it at check in, or while making the reservation. The server will present you with a check. Lets say $100 for easy math. The check will inform you a 18% tip is $18, and a 20% tip is $20. I've yet to be told 100% from my disney server friends who it works from this point. Supposedly you will be able to tip in cash, plastic, or with your disney card. In 2007, there was no way to ring in a zero charge letting someone leave only a tip on either plastic of their room charge. I can only guess they will change this. So if you have room charging abilities, it would only be smart if their system simply printed a blank place to write in the tip. If you don't have room charging abilities, I can assume you will have to give the server your credit card, and tell them you want to use this for a tip. They would then run it for a $0.00 charge, and bring back the paperwork so you can write in whatever you want.

Yeah, sounds like a stupid process, but thats what its looking like.

 

[paulh]

The check will inform you a 18% tip is $18, and a 20% tip is $20. .

so soon you be asked to leve a 20% tip as standard?looks like we will be paying for servers next wage increse,not disney heck they might start putting 25% on then 30% on,this is why people dont like being told what to pay
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[kaytieeldr]

In the case of the DDP, or most out of pocket diners, nobody is being TOLD what to tip. The check will apparently provide the two given percentages and their cash equivalent, but most diners are still able to choose how much/what percent to tip.

To the OP: The tipless DDP has been in effect only two days (and does, or should, not affect Guests whose packages started prior to 1/1/08), so we should expect it will take a little time before anyone with actual experience reports it.

You can check the Dining Reviews board to see if anybody is posting 'live' reviews.

 

[Tricia1972]

Another poster just posted Live from Disney on how it is working on the new plan as of right now.

You can find the post here http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1674735

 

[yitbos96bb]

so soon you be asked to leve a 20% tip as standard?looks like we will be paying for servers next wage increse,not disney heck they might start putting 25% on then 30% on,this is why people dont like being told what to pay
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What's standard tipping in England? When I worked as a bartender, I usually tended to get poor tips from travelers from Europe and Asian countries (including Indians)... sometimes nothing, sometimes 3-5%. I have not traveled overseas, and am under the impression that tip is included in the price and servers are paid MUCH MUCH more in those countries (as relative to other servers) than in the US as a percentage of salary. So is that true and what is standard tipping in England?

 

[yitbos96bb]

Another poster just posted Live from Disney on how it is working on the new plan as of right now.

You can find the post here http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1674735

Thanks I have been looking but hadn't found one.

 

[taylorl25]

What's standard tipping in England? When I worked as a bartender, I usually tended to get poor tips from travelers from Europe and Asian countries (including Indians)... sometimes nothing, sometimes 3-5%. I have not traveled overseas, and am under the impression that tip is included in the price and servers are paid MUCH MUCH more in those countries (as relative to other servers) than in the US as a percentage of salary. So is that true and what is standard tipping in England?

To be honest bartenders don't really get tips in England very often, and it's never a percentage of the total cost. A customer may say 'get one for yourself' which is the cue to take a set amount out or keep change, but they wouldn't do that everytime they went to the bar. The standard for waitstaff in England is 10%.

 

[TheRatPack]

We're thinking about putting cash on our account at checkin, based on estimating what our tips/cost will be (we eat a lot of the same restaurants every year so we can get a fairly good estimate I think). That way we can just give them our room key to take the DDP points off and charge the tip, all in one card. We usually have our credit card on file for charging, but with a lot of restaurants they run it for a certain amount and then go back take the hold off and place the approved tip amount on it, so it's hard to keep up with. We're a family of 7 so we'll be hit with the automatic gratuity, so I think cash from our room charge account will work and be better if we decide to up it to 20%...etc.

 

[Joie]

When tipping on the ddp you need to tell your server that you are paying cash for the tip before they run it because when we were at mama melrose i gave the server a cash tip and when i got the receipt to sign the server took the cash tip and charged the room key 18% tip so we spent maybe another 20 minutes to sort things out. Disney needs to revamp the tipping process and the ddp because its taking really long.

 

[Dizserver]

To answer OP, every check prints out now with your bill total, a place to leave tip, and a final total. If you are on DDP and leave this blank, we as servers now HAVE to ask (before we swipe your DDP credits) to please total the check. When we swipe the ddp card, it asks us to enter a tip amount. That remains as a balance, to which we can then either swipe the resort card or a credit card. So, when we ask for you to total the amount, we should also ask (assuming you leave some tip) if we can just charge the resort card or another credit card.

Servers across property, myself included, feel horribly awkward and tacky about this. A guest now has to face the server face to face with their tip amount whether they want to or not. (As a guest, I would find this awkward if I got bad service and left a deservingly bad tip). A rule of thumb for serving at any restaurant worldwide is to NOT solicit tips. But now we have to if the guest does not understand that we must have that tip amount prior to swiping the ddp card. We cannot enter an amount later.

Of course, if a ddp guest intends to tip with cash, a server will enter $0 as tip amount and pocket the cash (easiest way).

So, for ddp guests only, either enter the tip amount before they swipe the ddp card, or write "cash" so the server knows not to ask.

For all other guests, the reciept will print out with a place to enter tip, but you don't have to fill this out til after your credit card is swiped (as has always been).

 

[kaytieeldr]

Dizserver - can I just write $0 ($0.00, zero, -0-, etc.) on the tip line?

 

[noahdove]

I will be putting my tip money in a special envelope that I have made..so, guessing I will put cash on the tip line? Is that what I am understanding? Thank you

 

[TheDizMom]

OK, so we no longer get an appetizer and the tip is not included ? Did they bring the price down or is it still the same cost? Seems to me it should bring it down.

The tip thing will be a royal pain in the backside from what I can tell, but I suppose in some ways it could be better for service. I haven't ever really had any complaints and I have left an additional tip when we have really liked a server, but I know a lot of people felt that the service wasn't as good when the server knew you were on the DP. It was a given in the tip category, so the server didn't really have to be as concerned with whether or not they were being attentive enough. I will however have to raise a stink if I am told what to tip . I generally am a 20% tipper, but still how much I tip is my decision and mine alone. The CM says it is up to us, so I will take her at her word. I would also be curious to see what happens with large parties. We may go with my sister's family at the end of the year, so there would be 10 of us at the table, but 2 separate families with 2 separate plans. Will they put the higher gratuity on both checks automatically because we are together though paying separately? If that is how they do it, will it be based on each checks total or the whole thing? Since they are 6 and we are 4, I don't want to be charged a huge tip for being at one table. I have no idea how it was handled in April when we went with my DH's family as the tip was included then, but I will be very curious to know how they will deal with this one. I understand that when it's a large table they put an automatic gratuity on the check, but I want to only be tipping for what my family's check was worth not both. Am I making sense ? Whoever has gone through this please post how the tip situation was handled.

I will also be curious to see what happens in the next few months from those who are dealing with it while they are still getting the glitches out. I can't wait to read the threads with responses to the new plan . I am sure there will be some real doozies !

 

[angelmav]

Dizmom, if you and your sisters party are on the same reservation/ADR (even though you could be at seperate tables and or receiving seperate checks, both parties will incur an 18% service charge).

 

[just another guy]

Dizserver - can I just write $0 ($0.00, zero, -0-, etc.) on the tip line?

Yup sure can.

I will be putting my tip money in a special envelope that I have made..so, guessing I will put cash on the tip line? Is that what I am understanding? Thank you

Yup, you can just write the word "cash" on the tip line. Thats perfectly fine.

OK, so we no longer get an appetizer and the tip is not included ? Did they bring the price down or is it still the same cost? Seems to me it should bring it down.

Don't quote me, but I believe they dropped the price an ENTIRE DOLLAR!!! Yes you read correctly, the app is no longer included, and the 18% tip is no longer included.

If you are upset that disney is ripping you off, go ahead and email them. The more people complain, the better the chance of them changing it.

We may go with my sister's family at the end of the year, so there would be 10 of us at the table, but 2 separate families with 2 separate plans. Will they put the higher gratuity on both checks automatically because we are together though paying separately? If that is how they do it, will it be based on each checks total or the whole thing? Since they are 6 and we are 4, I don't want to be charged a huge tip for being at one table.

An automatic 18% is included for any parties of 6 or more. If the check it split two ways, the 18% remains on each check. Whatever the total is for 6 people will include an 18% grat, and the same goes for the family of 4.

 

[TheDizMom]

Don't quote me, but I believe they dropped the price an ENTIRE DOLLAR!!! Yes you read correctly, the app is no longer included, and the 18% tip is no longer included.

If you are upset that disney is ripping you off, go ahead and email them. The more people complain, the better the chance of them changing it.

Thanks for the response > That is a ridiculous reduction, so I may just do that and let them know I think it's a bit screwy .

An automatic 18% is included for any parties of 6 or more. If the check it split two ways, the 18% remains on each check. Whatever the total is for 6 people will include an 18% grat, and the same goes for the family of 4.


As long as it's just 18% on the amount of my check I am fine with that, and agree with it. I actually would think it would be 20%. Well if I like the server I can always give them 20% on my own. Thanks for your response too angelmav .

 

[Tink3815]

Question for you. How are tips split up between the other people working in the restaurant? (I have never waited tables). From reading through the posts I'm thinking tipping in cash is the best way to go. I do not want to short change others who I may not have direct contact with. Does the wait staff have to report back to Disney their cash tips?

 

[BuffaloGal]

Question for you. How are tips split up between the other people working in the restaurant? (I have never waited tables). From reading through the posts I'm thinking tipping in cash is the best way to go. I do not want to short change others who I may not have direct contact with. Does the wait staff have to report back to Disney their cash tips?

Disney servers tip the bartender a percentage of all bar drinks (disney give us the total at the end of the night) (between 7 and 10% of total bar sales... I've never figured out why the percentage is different at different restaurants). Food runners (hard menu restaurants) are tipped based on food sales.... between 1 1/2 percent and 3 percent (again, no idea why the discrepency). Bussers (which exist only at Chef Mickey's, 1900 Park Faire, and Ohana) are tipped betweenn 20 and 30% of a servers tips and gratuities based on the total after cash tips are entered in (yes, disney does make us claim them) and after the bartender has been tipped.

Simple math example (fake numbers.... don't assume that this is what anyone is making... this is just to make things easy)

Restaurant with a "busser"

What server has in her pocket (charge tips, cash tips, gratuity) $200
What server sold in alcohol: $150.

Server tips the bar $15 (10% seems to be the standard at this type of restaurant...probably because you sell less alcohol) , leaving her with $185. She is required to give her busser at least $37. Most do 25%. So, $46. I'm exceedingly generous and small (thus making it hard for me to help bus tables or run food), so I'd probably give my busser $50. I leave with $135.


Restaurant with a food runner:
What server has in her pocket: $200.
What server sold in alcohol: $150
What server sold in food: $1000

We will use 7% and 2% for our tipping purposes here.... just because those seem to be the more common numbers for this type of restaurant.
Server tips the bar $10.50. Server tips the food runner at least $20. Again, I have short arms and it's really hard for me to be very efficient in running much of my own food, so I'm probably going to give my runner $25. I leave with $164.50.

As I said, the numbers are FAKE. I used rounded numbers for easy math. Hope that this helps.

 

[LexPlayer]

Does the bill for ADR of 6 or more people automatically add 18%, thereby preventing the patron from paying the tip portion in cash?