Timeshare used in DisneyLand?

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I've been going back forth on purchasing Timeshare for DW, but I won't actually be going there next year but to DL instead. Is it smart to purchase anyway and can it be used in DL? Is there property in DL? Should I just leave it alone until I get back from DL?

Our trip there will be in Dec of 2010.
 
The one thing I say and all members I know say is "we wish we had done this sooner". Think about it.... if you know you are going to spend your money to be at Disney at Disneyland and / or Walt Disney World then why not spend it wisely. The money you spend on your December 2010 trip will never come back to you. If you spend that money on the membership you can use your points to stay at my favorite Disney resort (besides AKL) which is Grand Californian. You won't have to stay in some tiny hotel room but a roomier villa and the money you spent will keep coming back to you by way of vacation points.

If you wait until after your December 2010 trip, that's a trip that you spent money on that you will never get back AND the cost of the membership will most likely go up.
 
So true. I think I'm going to go for it. Do you know off hand how many pts it may take to stay at the grand californian a week before xmas?Is there a pts. chart somewhere for Disneyland?

Thanks for the advice:surfweb:
 

If you go to the DVC section of the board they have point charts for Disney's Grand California(the DVC at DL) and info on the incentives being offered.
 
I sit in the Grand Californian right now :goodvibes We booked using points through the concierge collection. :goodvibes I think it would have been tough to get a villa on points as BWV is our home resort. We have an excellent room with a standard view (overlook the front entrance) We could see the DL fireworks last night right from here :woohoo:
 
oh lucky you. to be in your spot right now. I have a whole year to wait :(

so im totally a property virgin when it come to the DVC .. what is conceirge pts? And did you buy into a resort in DW or DL? :surfweb:
 
so im totally a property virgin when it come to the DVC .. what is conceirge pts? And did you buy into a resort in DW or DL? :surfweb:

I think you should head over to the DVC forum for some heavy reading. They also have links to wdwinfo pages (that's the info side of the Dis, by the way) and various other places that have info amassed.


I think what tksbaskets is saying is that they are in the *hotel*, but staying in Concierge, which gets you access to the concierge lounge and free light food and beverage all day, and various other benefits. We stayed at Disneyland Hotel on our points in a concierge room. They are saying they stayed on the hotel "side" b/c it wouldn't have been possible to get a villa room on such short notice, and it had to be shorter notice b/c they own at a WDW resort, which means they couldn't book at 11 months out (then again, no one could THIS year at Grand Cal Villas since it wasn't open for booking at that point!).

We own at Bay Lake, in WDW, but can use our points anywhere, as long as there's availability. Since our points are at BLT, we can book there 11 months out from our stay, which is the home resort advantage. We can book elsewhere 7 months out, where you're running into less availabilty, especially at smaller places. Since Grand Cal has only 50 total villas, that's a smaller place.

So if you're planning to stay at Grand Cal often, and you will be booking each trip 11 months out, buy there. If you won't be using that home resort advantage and will be booking inside 7 months from your trip, it doesn't matter where you own.


Ok anyway, go read the DVC forums here! Good info and many more owners over there.
 
I'm using DVC for New Years eve at Disneyland. Could not get the DVC only the hotel. It was about 10 extra points. I booked it maybe three months ago so hotel is not to hard to get.
 
Wow ... so I read and up on the DVC membership and its actually not that bad. I guess my decision would be to purchase into AKL. It seems more kid friendly out of the bunch. Am i wrong on that, please anyone tell me. I'm basing my decision somewhat on where I know the kids would really enjoy where we can book in an 11 month frame. I do really wish that Poly wasa choice. I know for some that may not be a good comparison, but it my favorite resort out of them all.

And also to consider as far as how many pts to purchase would be the amount in my group and approx how many days I will stay in a year or how many times I would go. Do the DVC pts apply to anywhere else besides WDW and DL? I guess that would be a rep question. I read where ppl have gone over 50 times, don't know if my kids would go for that or my bank, but we would enjoy travelling.

Can't wait to get started. Thanx for the information. more is wlecomed.
 
Wow ... so I read and up on the DVC membership and its actually not that bad. I guess my decision would be to purchase into AKL. It seems more kid friendly out of the bunch. Am i wrong on that, please anyone tell me. I'm basing my decision somewhat on where I know the kids would really enjoy where we can book in an 11 month frame. I do really wish that Poly wasa choice. I know for some that may not be a good comparison, but it my favorite resort out of them all.

And also to consider as far as how many pts to purchase would be the amount in my group and approx how many days I will stay in a year or how many times I would go. Do the DVC pts apply to anywhere else besides WDW and DL? I guess that would be a rep question. I read where ppl have gone over 50 times, don't know if my kids would go for that or my bank, but we would enjoy travelling.

Can't wait to get started. Thanx for the information. more is wlecomed.

Hawaii is being built right now :thumbsup2 so that's another reason to buy I highly recommend reading the timeshare boards on disboards. I bought with lots of research sight unseen. I own at Saratoga and have stayed at AKL. I prefer Saratoga but thats me. You need to learn dues, pts etc before purchase. Every location is different and some are cheaper then others.
 
We have 3 seperate "home" resorts. In reading and researching over these last few years, here are a few things to think about:

What Disney Vacation Club resort would you want to try and get into during a peak time? Do you like to stay in California @ Disneyland for Christmas? This is where the 11 month advantage comes into play. We bought our 1st contract (SSR) out of the California offices because that is what was the going resort with incentive points and I think we got annual passes for 2. But then it allowed us to be one of the first offered the Villas at the Grand CA. This was a resort we wanted to be able to book in the 11 month time frame as we live in Nor Cal and go down there A LOT.

Next, ask about incentives. They can have anything from reduced prices per point to a free cruise (I think it was a 3 or 4 night one?). They may throw extra stuff at you if they think you are on the fence. I would recommend talking to the agent and then going home and looking at it on paper. See what looks good.

I think you can go onto the dvcmembers.com website possibly as a guest to look around and the different places you can book. OH, don't forget you can pull your points together and book a cruise! Takes quite a few more but once every 5 years or so isn't too bad with trips to Disneyland or WDW inbetween? Depending upon how many points you purchase.

One thing I really wished we had done was when we decided on purchasing, I wish I knew about breaking up the contracts into small point groupings. Don't know what the minimum is but here is an example:
You want to buy 200 points. Ask what the smallest is to start and then break it down into maybe 3 contracts. 100 + 50 + 50, then IF you have to sell them you will have an easier time. We were thinking about selling our SSR contract & with 260 points it is going to be a very difficult contract to sell. You might want to check out the resales too.

The DVC agent can hopefully get things clearer for you. Don't think anything is a stupid question and remember to walk away and go over it on your own before buying. It is a commitment. And Hawaii is right around the corner!

Lastly, since they have opened the villas at the Grand CA, we can no longer book the hotel portion. We can book at the DLH or PPH but there are rumors about DLH expanding and adding DVC units. Same with the opening of the BLT, you will not be able to use DVC points to stay at the Contemporary. That is one thing I will miss, the concierge level @ the GCH!

With all of that.....Good Luck!!!!
 
I own at SSR, and it has been a good investment so far. Last week, I was able to book using my SSR points at GCV, which caught me by surprise considering all the hype and talk about how the points would be scooped up so quickly, so few rooms that there'd be little opportunity for people that call other DVC properties home to book there.

What surprised me was the price chart though: Only two points less for a Sun-Thurs night than PPH? I'd expected a much larger differential in points from GCV and the non DVC hotels at DL, like how Moderate resorts at WDW are twice-three times as much point-wise and values aren't bookable because there's no worth in it.

To summarize, I'd go ahead and purchace at WDW, and use your points at DL. I don't know if you or anyone was thinking still of buying at GCV, but I see no worth in it, considering there's little savings as of yet over PPH or DLH. Especially as points at SSR and some of the older DVC places are still cheap compared to the newer properties.
 
Well this sounds all good and overwhelming. But of course I will speak w/ an Agent and do many nights of research before I commit. I love SSR, stayed there a couple of yrs back in the two bedroom villa - it was wonderful but I guess like you guys said where would I want to stay to be able book at the 11 mo window. hmmmmm.

Thank you all. Anymore info out there. I'll take it all.
 
What surprised me was the price chart though: Only two points less for a Sun-Thurs night than PPH? I'd expected a much larger differential in points from GCV and the non DVC hotels at DL, like how Moderate resorts at WDW are twice-three times as much point-wise and values aren't bookable because there's no worth in it.

To summarize, I'd go ahead and purchace at WDW, and use your points at DL. I don't know if you or anyone was thinking still of buying at GCV, but I see no worth in it, considering there's little savings as of yet over PPH or DLH. Especially as points at SSR and some of the older DVC places are still cheap compared to the newer properties.

The worth in it is having the 11 month booking window for such a tiny property.

We chose to NOT buy there b/c we didn't feel the need to stay there (and after staying on the hotel side, still really don't), and definitely didn't need that long of booking time, and are OK with many other hotels in the area.

But many are serious about their Grand Cal, and it has great value to them.

I'm not understanding the issue with the PPH and DLH points being close to the Villas in point price, and that being offputting to you... It's Villa with kitchen at a fancier (some would say...I'm not so sure...other than the lobby it is just a hotel to me, and a hotel with really lax housekeeping IMO) hotel than a normal hotel room at "lesser" hotels.

But considering the deals you *can* get at certain times at PPH and DLH...except for our situation where our incentive points had to be used within a certain time and we couldn't get out to a SSR stay...not sure I'd use the points at the DLR hotels again.

Well this sounds all good and overwhelming. But of course I will speak w/ an Agent and do many nights of research before I commit.

Have you ordered the info yet? Gotta get the written info. And yes, speak with a guide, most definitely. They have a DVC office there behind the DLH, with a model villa they can show you. There are DVC kiosks everywhere. When we went initially we didn't have a tour (not sure why), but had a nice long talk with a guide while their kidcare watched DS for free, and then we got a giftcard for our trouble. Then he hung on to our contact info until 2 years later when we finally bought. There are some really nice guides out there! Just be sure to not take anything one says, or rather your understanding of what they say, as absolute...sometimes our understandings are different from the reality (and occasionally I've heard of guides perhaps overspeaking about things in a manner easily taken in a different direction from reality). Be calm, go slow, read, listen. :)
 
The worth in it is having the 11 month booking window for such a tiny property.

We chose to NOT buy there b/c we didn't feel the need to stay there (and after staying on the hotel side, still really don't), and definitely didn't need that long of booking time, and are OK with many other hotels in the area.

But many are serious about their Grand Cal, and it has great value to them.

I'm not understanding the issue with the PPH and DLH points being close to the Villas in point price, and that being offputting to you... It's Villa with kitchen at a fancier (some would say...I'm not so sure...other than the lobby it is just a hotel to me, and a hotel with really lax housekeeping IMO) hotel than a normal hotel room at "lesser" hotels.

I guess it's me, who's happy jusst to be there and doesn't intend to cook much. At SSR during its peak season, you don't even use 20 points a weekday night in a studio, while at non-peak, at GCV, it's 23 points. As I said, compared to WDW, the DVCs are much more bang for the buck (er, point) over the deluxe or mod resorts. It's about half the points to use DVC than to stay at the "regular" resorts. I'd had hoped the same would have been the case here.

Considering you can still book 11 months out for DLH or PPH, it's not a value to me. Even though I can understand the attraction of the GCV/H, it wouldn't strike me as worth the extra money, at least not in my current financial situation.
 
My brain just isn't working today. I'm sure everyone else understands...that happens with me sometimes. Oh I was a pain in certain classes. :)

The one thing with PPH and DLH is that once you make a reservation with points, they change and cannot be used for DVC resorts anymore.

I think what you're saying is that you'd rather just buy at a WDW resort, then stay at PPH or DLH, b/c the points aren't much more than the villas? Perhaps the light is dawning. :) I can see what you're saying. Then again, I toured the villas (2 years after our first meeting) and they are quite lovely. Just that tub alone in the 1 bedroom....

To me, many of the WDW DVC resorts are "cheap" (in price, I mean), while staying at a normal resort there is crazy! So I kind of, sort of, like that there isn't that big a difference between DVC and non at DLR. Though I find it to be quite pricey, compared to how low the hotel rooms can get in cash.

When we stayed concierge in May at DLH, until the week before our stay, those rooms were priced around 300/night. That felt good. Then they plummeted to something like 150 a night. Same thing happened when we stayed on the hotel side of Grand Cal in October with points...the room was priced at over 400/night until the week before when it went down. I liked the value of the points vs the high price...if I do that sort of booking again I won't check the cash prices! :upsidedow
 
You've got it!

The same about vacation points and reservation points is true at WDW.

To me, the three hotels and villas at DL are great, and I do like all the places I've stayed at at WDW as well. But honestly, the hotel for me is just part of it. After all, I'm more there for the parks than the hotels. I love being on property. Other than that, it doesn't matter so much for me choosing between GCV or DLH in particular, because I love the charms of both about the same for different reasons. For only a few extra points, I'll take my chances that I can get room at GCV or DLH without paying the extra money per points. I think it's about 20 dollars a point right now? An extra three-thousand bucks plus. Over a 50-year contract it sounds worth it, but having to pay it off in a ten-year span is a little tougher.
 
I've been going back forth on purchasing Timeshare for DW, but I won't actually be going there next year but to DL instead. Is it smart to purchase anyway and can it be used in DL? Is there property in DL? Should I just leave it alone until I get back from DL?

Our trip there will be in Dec of 2010.

Lots of great info in this thread, including some fairly sophisticated discussion by DVC members about most effective use of points. I thought I'd take a step back with some basics for OP, since we are in a similar position: Wanted WDW points but also plan to occasionally try to use points for disneyland.

The first thing to note, which others have alluded to, is that once disney builds a DVC and associates it with a resort -- as they have now done with VGC -- you cannot use points there to stay in the regular hotel. You can only only use points to stay in a villa at that resort. This is fairly significant if you're thinking of buying into a WDW DVC resort but hoping to stay at the Grand Californian. This is because people who own VGC as their "home" resort, get to book at 11 months out, but those who own points elsewhere, can only book 7 months in advance. There are only 50 units there, and many are dedicated 2 BRs. So, if you're planning to stay in 1 BRs or studios, there aren't a lot there.

There are many predicting that VGC, once it gets primarily sold, will be difficult to book by those who do not own there, because it is small. To date, that hasn't been the case. In fact, VGC has been surprisingly easy to book, even close to last minute. (I personally have a theory about this: I believe -- just a hunch -- that DVC is somehow obtaining inventory at VGC that should belong to central reservations and making it available to points owners. It's complicated, but my hunch on this is based on circumstantial evidence; although some posters suggest this not permitted under DVC documents.) Anyway, the key point is that nobody knows right now how easy or hard VGC will, ultimately, be at the 7 month window in the future. So, if you purchase at a WDW resort, and have your hopes up that you will be able to use it at the grand californian long term, we really don't have enough data yet to predict whether this will be possible. Who knows what will be available to the OP for December 2010? If OP buys a WDW resort to try to use at VGC in 12/20, the 7-month window will open in June. Tough to predict how availability will be then.

If, however, you're ok with using your DVC points at the PHP or the DLH, then you'll probably be good long term, since these reservations seem to be fairly easy to get. A few caveats to note there, though: (1) As bumbershoot notes, when you do this, your points become reservation points, not DVC-usable points, if you cancel. This, of course, would not be the case if you can use your points at VGC instead of the hotel; you'll keep them as DVC points even if you cancel. (2) Currently, DVC charges $95 to make, or change, a reservation using DVC points at non-DVC resorts. They have, for a while now, waived this fee for use of DVC points at disneyland hotels. But there's no assurance they will continue to do so into the future. In fact, now that there is a DVC resort on site, I think there's a decent chance that PHP and DLH stays will in the near future be subject to the $95 make and change fee. (3) I find the points required for DLH and PHP to be high for an ordinary hotel room, particularly on Friday and Saturday nights. Just to give you a sense, rack rate on a summer weekend night ranges from $300 to $400 at the two hotels (and you can almost always find significant discounts from those rates or very good package deals, like the "get 5 for 3" deal). Points for the same nights are in the range of 38-53. When you consider that you're paying dues of $4 to $5 per night, and the rental value of points at a good WDW resort can be something like $10 or more, I'm not sure that owning WDW points to use at the DLH hotels is a really cost effective plan if you're planning to do it any more than sporadically. But for a one-time trip, it certainly is not a bad option.

I think a more compelling question is whether a person who wants to go primarily to WDW and occasionally to disneyland should purchase VGC points and then book at WDW at the 7 month window. I can certainly see this as a viable strategy, and I thought long and hard about doing just this for several reasons: (1) VGC points are cheap right now even direct, with the incentives (not quite as good as a few months ago, but still pretty good -- $95 per point or pay $112 and get about $3,000 in annual passes at the two parks). (2) There is a much wider range of options at WDW at the 7 month window. (3) Dues are low for VGC and there are reasons to expect this will continue to be the case (although predicting this is hazardous). (4) VGC points expire in 2060. (5) As already noted, there are so few villas at VGC, with the substantial upgrades planned for DLR and CA there is at least some reason to worry about availability at the 7 month window into the future. Ultimately, we wanted the monorail when we go to WDW, so we purchased BLT points and will try to use them from time to time at DLR as we can. As noted, though, VGC was a significant option that we considered and almost did.
 





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