mshanson3121
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Yes, there is typically the same outrage actually. People have been complaining for a long time at the rising cost of sports, concerts etc... But especially sports since they are more of a family activity. I'm guessing the difference is, there's isn't a cult-like forum like this for all the "die hards" to vent all at once on. But, anyone who knows anyone else that follows sports, should easily realize that people are generally upset with the rising cost in sports.
However, the difference is 1. sports ticket increases don't make national headline news like Disney's do. They're quietly slipped out every year, without any hoopla, so it doesn't generate the same amount of discussion/awareness. 2. as someone else already said - at the end of the day, you can watch the sports on TV at home, so while it's definitely not the same as being there, the high prices don't 100% exclude you from experiencing it's "attraction", the way Disney does. 3. Most people go to a sporting event for one day. Most families are doing several days at Disney, which really adds up, and again just brings another level of awareness to the cost. 5 day basic pass for a family of 4, with both kids under 10 works out to $70 per person, per day. That's still pretty steep, and yes, there are sporting events like MLB, NHL that you could attend for </= to that.
As for what would Walt think? I'm sure he'd be thrilled to see how it's grown. Would he be happy with how they're cutting service and attractions while raising prices? Not a chance. Would he be happy with the rate at which Disney has continued to raise it's prices? No. Would he be happy with tiered pricing? Hard to say.
One, it's astounding how rude this is towards teachers, and I pray you show more respect than this to your children's teachers. But secondly, really, your point is a bunch of bull. I would guarentee you that 99.99999% of people do not choose their career with the thought of, "I wonder how it affects when I go to Disney World?", in mind. In fact, I would also wager that parents aren't choosing to have children (the ones that actually CHOSE to have children and weren't "surprised"), with that thought in mind, either. There are far more important factors that go into such decisions, than Disney. Disney isn't even a figment on the decision making process on life-altering decisions. So for you to throw this in their face and say it's their own "fault" because they "chose this job knowing you could only go to Disney in the summer" is pretty asinine.
Your whole post is just rude towards teachers. Teachers are far from the only ones complaining about tiered and price increases. In fact, the majority of people are. Why? Because while Walt was a businessman, he also made it very clear, many times in his speeches, things he said etc... that bottom line was NOT his main concern. His main concern was creating a place for ALL families to be able to experience together. Not just those with enough money in their pockets. Pricing at Disney has risen at a rate far above inflation, and also at a rate beyond most other theme parks. They've also continued to cut attractions, service etc... while raising their prices. And while tiered pricing is nothing new in that yes, they're already doing it with hotels, lodging etc... quite honestly, that's more than enough. Most theme parks etc... do NOT do tiered pricing. The only reason for Disney to do this is corporate greed, nothing more. Because we all know that it's not going to make one whit of difference on the crowd level. So, yes, it is "punishing" those that can only travel during those certain times, whether that's teachers, a mill worker, a family with a student, an office worker that drew that week in the vacation pool, whatever, and it's fair for people to be able to vent their frustration about that. If you want to say that you're "sick of hearing people complain about prices at Disney", then fine. But you darn well better make it inclusive to everyone, instead of just lashing out at teachers.
Some quotes I love:
“When we opened Disneyland, a lot of people got the impressions that it was a get-rich-quick thing, but they didn't realize that behind Disneyland was this great organization that I built here at the Studio, and they all got into it and we were doing it because we loved to do it.”
“You reach a point where you don't work for money.”
"A man should never neglect his family for business"
"I have no use for people who throw their weight around as celebrities, or for those who fawn over you just because you're famous."
"I am not influenced by the fashions or techniques of other motion picture companies"
"Disneyland is a work of love. We didn't go into Disneyland just with the idea of making money."
"You can design and create, and build the most wonderful place in the world. But it takes people to make the dream a reality."
"Why do we have to grow up? I know more adults who have the children's approach to life. They're people who don't give a hang what the Joneses do. You see them at Disneyland every time you go there. They are not afraid to be delighted with simple pleasures, and they have a degree of contentment with what life has brought - sometimes it isn't much, either."
Why do I share these? Because they are good examples of what drove Walt - and it clearly wasn't money. It was the love of what he did, the love of family, the love of people. He realized that the success of Disney depended on PEOPLE. Family came first, and I really don't think he'd be okay with the way Disney is run today - where money is more important than offering the "dream" to more families, pricing people out. Just as he didn't like people using their famous name for power, likewise, I don't think he'd like the execs using the Disney name, to try and get away with the stuff they're pulling today.
could you tell me when those three months off are, or how it's seven hours a day when I can't find my wife on the weekends behind that stack of poorly written papers? Let's just go back to the axiom of "those who can't do teach". Thanks to autocorrect n techtalk I dnt need no teachin;
