Throwaway room (read post #2041 or #2710 before posting)

[skylizard]

BUT, I seriously doubt Disney does anything to stop this. It's too profitable for them and with the likelihood that ALL park tickets will be able to book advance FP+ very soon, it wouldn't make sense for them to "shut it off" just to turn it back on.
JMHO

They may or may not make FP+ open to everyone. Likely? Yes. But not a definite.
As for profitability, If they think they are losing money by people only booking one night and limiting availability for those booking week long stays, I think Disney will change the rules on FP+. This is a public forum and it wouldn't be beyond belief that someone at Disney reads this or that a poster has notified Disney of this.

 

[nugov2]

I truly believe we will see the time come when FP+ is tied to our resort stay...you get to make FP+, in advance, for the days you are actually at the resort. Cancel the resort, and your FP+ get cancelled too. It's ridiculous to have people booking a WDW resort stay for one night in order to book a week's worth of FP+. It should be done the same way DDP is...you get it for the night's you are staying there. If you have a park pass for 7 nights, but only book one night at Pop (for instance) and then move out to stay offsite? You should be able to get FP+ for the time you are at Pop. Then book FP+ each day..just like the other offsite people!

The difference is that DDP is for onsite guests and FP+ advanced booking has already been stated to be for all guests with MYW tickets or AP. Right now b/c it is in "testing" only resort guest get the MB and the perk of booking in advance, so you become and onsite guest for one night and you get the perk for the length of vacation. If it was a resort only perk, they would already have it like the DDP where you get it for length of stay, but it's not.

 

[PeterPanic]

What exactly is a throw away room??

It is rumored that people are booking one night at a Disney Resort Hotel strictly to get advanced FP+ booking, then they aren't actually staying there, but are paying for the one night. Seems like paying for a FP to me, but what do I know. And Disney gained one night of hotel fees that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Must be that's where the payback is coming from.

Even if they are going to stay the one night, seems like a lot of hassle to me. And the time spent switching hotels seems to me would amount to a lot of available time in a standby line.

 

[wdwfanatic80]

I hope they do stop it and I hope the keep FP+ per booking and all that for I site guests. Opening it to everyone will make it difficult to book anything. I think it's important to offer these perks to their on site guests. Other companies do similar things.

 

[nugov2]

True. But it used to be 'within the system' to book a room using a child's AP...Disney closed that one down. This 'within the system' is only sort of right. Can you do it? Sure you can. But, when Disney says that FP+ advance reservations are a perk of staying onsite, and then people come along and book one night in order to get that advance booking? I guess it's a grey area. But that's just me. I really resent it when people work the system. Not to mention it takes away rooms from those that want them. And yes, it does give Disney an inflated sense of room bookings. When people book a ton of rooms, Disney no longer sees the need to offer room discounts..so we end up paying more in the end. But, that isn't going to bother those staying offsite, is it?!
It's pretty obvious that even though most here say this 'throwaway room' is a way around the system, they have no problem doing it. But, that's just the way I feel about it. I'll just sit and wait until this loophole is closed up..hopefully sooner rather than later.

Where does WDW say that? They say it is a perk for all people who have AP and MYW tickets. A throwaway room isn't a way around the system, it is the system. During this phase of testing book a room for a minimum of one night and have access to FP+ prebooking for length of your ticket. I think you may be waiting for a long time to see this supposed "loophole" to be closed

The complaint you have about rooms being full and WDW not needing to offer discounts sounds like even more reason this is a win for WDW. And no it doesn't impact off site, nor the people paying the prices and booking at that price on site. So people shouldn't book and pay for a service just so that rooms sit empty and others can get a discount? That is the same as complaining that too many people pay rack rate and to stop b/c it is hurting discounts. Or too many people go to WDW causing ticket prices to rise and now my family cannot afford it. Everyone booking their trip is perfectly fine with those prices and those that aren't will have to vacation differently.

 

[ckelly14]

This thread has been quite busy today

I find it amusing that people are still arguing that pre-booking FP+ is an on-site perk.

Please read the My Disney Experience Terms and Conditions that you agreed to when setting up your account.

Should we off-siters get a class-action lawsuit together and sue Disney since they are not holding up their end of the bargain!

(JUST JOKING)

 

[goofy4tink]

I guess Disney disagrees with you.

According to this thread, offsite guests will be able to book FP+ 60 days out. This starts on April 7th.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3230146&page=2

Unfortunately for me, I go before that. So I'm stuck with a throwaway room as my only option. Unless I want t book 'day-of' by standing in line at a kiosk.

The difference is that DDP is for onsite guests and FP+ advanced booking has already been stated to be for all guests with MYW tickets or AP. Right now b/c it is in "testing" only resort guest get the MB and the perk of booking in advance, so you become and onsite guest for one night and you get the perk for the length of vacation. If it was a resort only perk, they would already have it like the DDP where you get it for length of stay, but it's not.

Yes, I get that. But, as of right now...you have to be staying on-site, for one night, with tickets attached to your MDE account, in order to book advance FP+, right? So, in essence, you have to be a resort guest. My issue is why the one night?
If, and when, Disney rolls out a system where anyone can book 60 days in advance, fine. That's fair. I have no problem with that. But I do have an issue with a system that allows you to book one night at a resort, have an AP, and be able to book a weeks worth of FP+. But, it seems that is going to change...and I'll be happy. Not that Disney much cares about my happiness!

 

[goofy4tink]

This thread has been quite busy today

I find it amusing that people are still arguing that pre-booking FP+ is an on-site perk.

Please read the My Disney Experience Terms and Conditions that you agreed to when setting up your account.

Should we off-siters get a class-action lawsuit together and sue Disney since they are not holding up their end of the bargain!

(JUST JOKING)

And again, can you, right now, go into your MDE account, and book FP+ for your stay in early April, without a resort room reserved? Even if you have an AP or park passes attached to your account? That's my point. I don't think you can.

 

[goofy4tink]

Ok, I stand corrected! I just went to my MDE, and was able to make FP+ choices for March 24! I'm not going until June 2 though. I have no room reservation booked for March.
So, my argument is moot now.

 

[ckelly14]

And again, can you, right now, go into your MDE account, and book FP+ for your stay in early April, without a resort room reserved? Even if you have an AP or park passes attached to your account? That's my point. I don't think you can.

Sorry, but that was directed at nugov2's previous comments.

I understand your point that something should be classified a moral/immoral based on what's happening now, not what is theoretical for the future.

 

[ckelly14]

Ok, I stand corrected! I just went to my MDE, and was able to make FP+ choices for March 24! I'm not going until June 2 though. I have no room reservation booked for March.
So, my argument is moot now.

Do you have a previous magic band or do you have ADR's for that day??

 

[Minniesgal]

And again, can you, right now, go into your MDE account, and book FP+ for your stay in early April, without a resort room reserved? Even if you have an AP or park passes attached to your account? That's my point. I don't think you can.

If you have an AP and a magic band yes you can

 

[ckelly14]

Ok, I stand corrected! I just went to my MDE, and was able to make FP+ choices for March 24! I'm not going until June 2 though. I have no room reservation booked for March.
So, my argument is moot now.

I still cannot book. Are you messing with us...?

 

[unbeknownst]

Just updating again. It is letting me make FP+ reservations for April 13th today. My day with no ADRs isn't until April 15th, so I'll let you know if that effects it.

So, I feel a little weird coming back to update. I didn't realize there was a controversy about this topic, so I guess I feel the need to explain a little. This is my 25th birthday trip. I got an extra day off work so we decided to add a night to our trip. As a surprise, my parents booked it at a Disney - without a thought to FP+. This is the first time I will have ever stayed in a disney resort despite having been 15+ times (we have a timeshare)... so, I'd be keeping this room whether or not pre-booking FP+ worked or not. I'm very excited.

Regardless, it would not let me book FP+ without an ADR. It continued to say all of the tickets were ineligible. I had already decided to make an ADR at Liberty Tavern, and it let me make FP+ for April 15th as soon as I made the ADR. Your mileage may vary.

 

[ckelly14]

Some feel this is controversial, others, not so much...
Strange about the ADR's- perhaps this is a new requirement that allows access to FP+?
I have a trip in June and expect things to change at least a few times before then....

 

[Donnainnj]

AP holder already with bands. We are bringing a guest that will not have an AP. Linked everything up, booked one night at Pop at the beginning of the trip, and when our dates opened up it said we would not be able to book the day without a dining reservation. When we got to the 60 day mark for the day without a reservation I clicked on it, and we were able to book FP+'s for all in the party, including the person with the 8 day hopper +WP ticket. One thing to note we do have a 1 day onsite reservation for the end of the week (the rest of the stay is at a condo that rents Saturday to Saturday) that we have to cancel because my HS daughter (and our guest) has to make up snow days. Hopefully things don't change when I cancel that reservation.
Donna

 

[iheartjuppy]

Wanted to update, not sure when the loophole closed, but I'm a non-AP holder, booked a one night stay and linked 5 day park hoppers. My FP+ window opened today and I can only book for the day of check in and the day of check out, not length of ticket.

 

[ampc3]

you will most likely be able to book those other days at 60 days out from each of those days. So try again in a few days. (at least that is what has been working) I think alot of people think it doesn't work, b/c you can't book it with the onsite stay.

 

[CanadaJulie]

I am here now and will check into my throwaway room in a few hours.

I was able to make my FP+ 60 days out, day by day. So 60 days out, I reserved for check in and check out. Then 2 days later, I was able to reserve for our 3rd vacation day, and so on...

I will keep you posted if I have any issues while we are here and no longer "on-site" after we check out tomorrow.

 

[iheartjuppy]

Thanks all! Will stay glued to this thread