Thoughts on Measles outbreak?

[ronandannette]

Thermisol hasn't been used in vaccines since 1997-98 in Canada.

That is interesting and I wasn’t aware. It was right around that time our DS was beginning his vaccination schedule and it was still present in multi-dose vials of MMR.

 

[Geoff_M]

The antivaxxers would believe that a-amalyse is lethal when swallowed in small amounts for long periods of time if someone told them that.

That's like people that get freaked out about milk from cows treated with rBST because it contains "higher" average levels of IGF-1 "hormone" than non-treated cows, but ignores the fact that each day we swallow more IGF-1 in our own saliva than we'd get from milk, treated or otherwise.

 

[LSUmiss]

My thoughts are this is all part of a bigger trend in US culture right now where everybody thinks they are smart enough to "do their own research" and nobody wants to trust experts. This all goes back to a fear of the "intellectual elite".

Stay at home home Karyn apparently thinks she knows as much about vaccinations and diseases because she has 4 kids as Dr. Bradley Ackerson, who has 20 years experience as a pediatric infectious disease specialist.

Jim Bob down the street can explain to you why the climate isn't changing because he's been shoveling snow for 40 years. It doesn't matter what Dr. Phil D. Jones, former director of the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, has to say. Dr. Jones hasn't lived in this city for 40 years. It snows all the time!

And because "everybody can do their own research", everybody will of course understand what they read. I mean, just look at the people who argue that the MMR vaccine doesn't really work because the vaccine only gives 10 years of immunity. These people don't bother to read that a second dose, which is required, boosts that immunity to permanent -- either because that information doesn't follow their agenda or they don't understand the evidence.

There's nothing to discuss here, Karyn. You don't know anything. You think you do, but you don't. Having 4 kids doesn't give you a medical doctorate.

I think this is one of the most dangerous things to our society.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

I saw if you got measles shot before 1983 you should get booster. Anyone see that?

 

[NJlauren]

I saw if you got measles shot before 1983 you should get booster. Anyone see that?

I’m unsure of the year, but just go get you titers checked if your worried. I’m actually going this morning to get mine checked. It will tell you if you need boosters.

 

[billlaurie]

I saw if you got measles shot before 1983 you should get booster. Anyone see that?

Prior to that year, it was recommended as just one dose regimen, before they figured out we needed a booster. So middle aged and older adults might have gotten only one dose. I was a teen in 1976 and got the measles after being vaccinated as a baby. I knew I had it because a boy who had a "crush" on me tried to drag me into the boys bathroom at the skating rink. The next week, he wasn't skating and told me he had the measles. Lo and behold, I started with the symptoms, looked it up in the encyclopedia, and told my mother I had measles. Nope she said, you are vaccinated. Went to drs and he said nope, you have strep throat. I was just starting with the rash but argued, look at these Koplik spots in my mouth, just like it says in the encyclopedia. Nope he said, you are vaccinated. A few days later I was covered from head to toe and so sick I could barely move. Back to the drs, wow, he said you do have the measles.
You can get your titer checked or get a booster. Even if you had one, it won't hurt to get another booster if you aren't sure. I wound up getting another MMR before going to pharmacy school because I only had one documented MMR and my insurance at the time wouldn't cover the titers.

 

[Katie Dawn]

I’m unsure of the year, but just go get you titers checked if your worried. I’m actually going this morning to get mine checked. It will tell you if you need boosters.

Who can do that? Your regular doctor? The Health Department?

 

[NJlauren]

Who can do that? Your regular doctor? The Health Department?

Yes, Regular doctor. I went today, just told them in advance they said remind us when you get here. They took blood and I’ll have the results in 2-5 business days. Then I’ll know if I need any vaccines.

I also snapped this photo

 

[Katie Dawn]

Yes, Regular doctor. I went today, just told them in advance they said remind us when you get here. They took blood and I’ll have the results in 2-5 business days. Then I’ll know if I need any vaccines.

I also snapped this photo

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Thanks! I love that CDC puts out those charts. Its how I realized I needed to get a second varicella (chickenpox vaccine) since they used to say 1 was fine then changed it to recommend 2.

 

[Belle1962]

1) Before believing information you see on the web look at where/who the information is coming from. A major, reputable media source, ok. CDC, NIH and other websites that end with .gov if you are looking for accurate information. 2) if you (anti-vaxxers) believe the government is lying to you about this, what else do you think they’re lying about? Climate change, The opioid epidemic, Area 51?
I have discovered through my many years on earth that people who have a rabid position on anything, and aren’t willing to have a calm discussion based on scientific facts, should be avoided. You aren’t going to change their mind.

 

[tcufrog]

1) Before believing information you see on the web look at where/who the information is coming from. A major, reputable media source, ok. CDC, NIH and other websites that end with .gov if you are looking for accurate information. 2) if you (anti-vaxxers) believe the government is lying to you about this, what else do you think they’re lying about? Climate change, The opioid epidemic, Area 51?
I have discovered through my many years on earth that people who have a rabid position on anything, and aren’t willing to have a calm discussion based on scientific facts, should be avoided. You aren’t going to change their mind.

I am a former college librarian who used to have a medical librarian (former nurse) as her supervisor. I endorse this message with one caveat. Check the publication date or last updated date on the webpage. The information about the outbreak is quickly changing and even reputable sites sometimes have out of date info on them. This is the advice I used to give when I was a librarian. The NHS website is also a reputable source. I thought I'd include that since we have a lot of UK members.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

RE: Believing information on the web.

I suggest this CrashCourse: