GoingSince1990
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After all this time, going to a supermarket maskless will feel like I forgot to wear pants. It’s great, but will take some getting used to!
You know how others would just push the envelope and take 10 minutes to take one sip of water in order to gain 10 minutes of maskless time in the crowded area.If it’s too dangerous to take a sip of water and put your mask back on while waiting in 100F heat, it’s too dangerous for the park to be open.
Just as a followup I canceled my trip. Disney was even gracious enough to give me back the $200 deposit for a full refund. I didn't yell or anything, just asked politely over the phone. They were very nice about it.
I was thinking I would still go if the rule were limited to maskless outdoors, masked indoors, but then I thought about being surrounded by hundreds of maskless people in a bottlenecked area and cringed. I'm just not ready for it yet despite probably being okay being masked and vaccinated. Again, not going to begrudge people who are. I hope you all have a great time and I wish I were up for it myself. If Disneyland opens up to non-residents, I'll likely go there very shortly after due to their low case and high vaccination rates- especially if they still require masks outdoors, or require vaccinations.
as long as Disney and Florida are not requiring Masks, proof of Vaccination and avoiding crowds when that is not possible I will be staying far, far, away. I may be fully vaccinated so I shouldn't die, but I can still spread covid and I don't need the risk.This is the place to talk about the new CDC guidelines about vaccinated people not needing to wear masks outside or indoors.
This is my concern. I couldn't keep socially distant at my local farmers market this week. No way I'd trust Disney.Just as a followup I canceled my trip. Disney was even gracious enough to give me back the $200 deposit for a full refund. I didn't yell or anything, just asked politely over the phone. They were very nice about it.
I was thinking I would still go if the rule were limited to maskless outdoors, masked indoors, but then I thought about being surrounded by hundreds of maskless people in a bottlenecked area and cringed. I'm just not ready for it yet despite probably being okay being masked and vaccinated. Again, not going to begrudge people who are. I hope you all have a great time and I wish I were up for it myself. If Disneyland opens up to non-residents, I'll likely go there very shortly after due to their low case and high vaccination rates- especially if they still require masks outdoors, or require vaccinations.
Did the same this morning at Publix - first maskless grocery trip in over a year - felt absolutely awesomeAfter all this time, going to a supermarket maskless will feel like I forgot to wear pants. It’s great, but will take some getting used to!
Did the same this morning at Publix - first maskless grocery trip in over a year - felt absolutely awesome!
ETA: I was fully vaccinated - my 2 week post 2nd shot - as of May 4.
as long as Disney and Florida are not requiring Masks, proof of Vaccination and avoiding crowds when that is not possible I will be staying far, far, away. I may be fully vaccinated so I shouldn't die, but I can still spread covid and I don't need the risk.
Just as a followup I canceled my trip. Disney was even gracious enough to give me back the $200 deposit for a full refund. I didn't yell or anything, just asked politely over the phone. They were very nice about it.
I was thinking I would still go if the rule were limited to maskless outdoors, masked indoors, but then I thought about being surrounded by hundreds of maskless people in a bottlenecked area and cringed. I'm just not ready for it yet despite probably being okay being masked and vaccinated. Again, not going to begrudge people who are. I hope you all have a great time and I wish I were up for it myself. If Disneyland opens up to non-residents, I'll likely go there very shortly after due to their low case and high vaccination rates- especially if they still require masks outdoors, or require vaccinations.
Please keep in mind that only 15% (+/- 1%) of the CDC employees are scientists. The rest are not scientists.According to the senate hearings this week, 40% of the staff at NIH and CDC have decided against taking the vaccines. Thats a lot of scientists that don’t trust the science.
Sad part of covid besides the deaths, has been the fighting, increasing of mental health issues. You are 100% correct the cdc has done a government pr job, ugh.This is a very fair statement. But, unfortunately, some states and their governors, have kept emergency powers citing science but actually relying on public opinion. How do I know? I work for a local governmental body and closely with our local health department and I see the cases and vaccination rates on a daily basis. I keep myself quite informed and even though I'm not a medical professional, but rather an attorney, I do listen to what the medical professional say and then what the bureaucrats (like myself) say to the chief executives. These are two different things.
First, the new CDC guidance for vaccinated people is long, long overdue. Period. The CDC, whether intentionally or not, has done one of the worst marketing and p.r. jobs regarding vaccines and how to live our lives in a more normal fashion vis-a-vis the COVID-19 virus. That being said, I give the CDC credit for getting it right now. It may be late but it is doing the right thing for vaccinated people.
Second, the logistical problem WDW has is with the CDC guidance still requiring masks for public transportation. So, demasking at all times at WDW for vaccinated folks is not actually advised because the CDC still recommends masks for folks on a boat, bus or monorail, etc. For all I know IASW is a mode of public transportation? I haven't read the guidance as to how it defines public transportation. WD Parks is going to have to wrestle with these logistical issues. Can these issues be resolved in a fair and smart manner. The short answer is yes. But, I imagine it will take several weeks to get it squared away from a policy standpoint.
Any way you slice it, the WDW experience is going to be better for many folks. Also, this is extremely good news for WD Company and all of America. And, if you think I'm being short-sighted because I'm vaxxed and others are not, let me share with you that my DD is immuno-compromised and there is a chance she cannot ever get the COVID-19 vaccination even though she is age eligible. She is in the vast minority of people with underlying medical conditions that may be a barrier to vaccination, but her issues shouldn't be a barrier to a return to the normalcy of our lives pre-COVID-19. Because, frankly, there are far too many other viruses to worry about in addition to COVID-19.
as long as Disney and Florida are not requiring Masks, proof of Vaccination and avoiding crowds when that is not possible I will be staying far, far, away. I may be fully vaccinated so I shouldn't die, but I can still spread covid and I don't need the risk.
It looks great, but since I have no way of telling if the people at the store unmasked are fully vaccinated or not. I'll stick to places that are still requiring masks.Actually, according to the CDC there is a very low chance of a fully vaccinated person spreading Covid, which to me was some of the best news to come from Friday's announcement. I think it's marvelous that these vaccines are working so well, it gives me a lot of hope.
Besides covid, Disney has always been a germ factory to me. We always got some sort of flu or bronchial illness while at disney. How could it not be? There are thousands of people from all over the world with different cultures. I'm sure people bring their own regional germs to the parks from the USA too. So, with people close together and the chance of getting an illness is pretty good, IMO.
Kids will be kids and they will sneeze and grab the handrails (adults tooI just think it's unreasonable to expect a huge parks area to be "disease free" all the time. Covid made us think about it, but it's always been there and always will be.
It looks great, but since I have no way of telling if the people at the store unmasked are fully vaccinated or not. I'll stick to places that are still requiring masks.
Do you think mask compliance was better in lines than it had been previously?I was at AK today. My family is fully vaccinated and we did not wear a mask today if we didn’t have to. It made a huge difference! We didn’t need masks in the parking lot, on the pathways, through security, at the tapstiles. However, there was very strict mask enforcement in areas where you needed to wear a mask. And it had to be over your nose and mouth! As soon as you reached this sign in a queue, there was strict enforcement.
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Just as a followup I canceled my trip. Disney was even gracious enough to give me back the $200 deposit for a full refund. I didn't yell or anything, just asked politely over the phone. They were very nice about it.
I was thinking I would still go if the rule were limited to maskless outdoors, masked indoors, but then I thought about being surrounded by hundreds of maskless people in a bottlenecked area and cringed. I'm just not ready for it yet despite probably being okay being masked and vaccinated. Again, not going to begrudge people who are. I hope you all have a great time and I wish I were up for it myself. If Disneyland opens up to non-residents, I'll likely go there very shortly after due to their low case and high vaccination rates- especially if they still require masks outdoors, or require vaccinations.
Do you think mask compliance was better in lines than it had been previously?