This may sound really silly but...

benjackal

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Please help me alleviate my (somewhat ridiculous) concerns! We are leaving for Disney World next week with our triplet 8 year old sons, 2 of which have cerebral palsy. They are both independent ambulators but both have weak trunk muscles as compared to their peers. They are anxious to try the more wild rides (Space Mountain, Expedition Everest etc.) and the overprotective mom in me worries that they may fall out of the cars. I've been to Disneyland (never Disneyworld) about 15 years ago so I really don't remember what kind of harnessing they use. Again, this may sound ridiculous but is there really any danger of kids falling out of rides if they meet the height requirements? My blood runs cold just thinking about it.

Thanks in advance for your insight.
 
They are both independent ambulators but both have weak trunk muscles as compared to their peers. They are anxious to try the more wild rides (Space Mountain, Expedition Everest etc.) and the overprotective mom in me worries that they may fall out of the cars. Thanks in advance for your insight.

Hi & Welcome to the Dis! My son also has mild CP & any ride he meets the height requirement, we pretty much ride, with a few qualified exceptions. Most ride vehicles you can sit an adult next to the child, except Space Mountain, where it's more of a set of single seats in a row. That's the one that gives me most pause, but I think my son is still about an inch from the height requirement, so no go this coming trip, in the future, well we'll just see how strong/stable my son is at that time. We also pause at Mission Space, because of trunk weakness, again maybe some time in the future.

As a not yet 4 year old, my son's favorite ride was Big Thunder Mountain. He was hoping to grow enough for EE, but as I mentioned above, I think he's about an inch too short. A little hunting about should give you ride vehicle pics so you can get some idea of restraints & harnesses. Have a great trip!
 
I'm always so thrilled when someone asks a question that I can give some advice on. :-)

My DS8 has hypotonic CP. Although he can ambulate with a walker.... he uses his wheelchair in public. His trunk control is "fair".

He was 6 and 7 on our last two trips.

He rode Big Thunder Mountain 11 times on our last trip. Expedition Everest 7 times. Primeval Whirl 4 times. Soarin' 3 times. Test Track 3 times. Splash Mountain 1 time. Tower of Terror 1 time.

I was never afraid he was going to fall out because I was sitting next to him both times. An adult and two kids (both 7) sat comfortably on Big Thunder Mountain, Expedition Everest, Primeval Whirl and Test Track. On Soarin' we were sitting individually but we were strapped in extremely well.

I won't let my son ride Space Mountain because it is a single sitter ride. Rockin Rollercoaster probably won't happen either.... my son is too scared of the loops.

Have fun!
 
Thanks for your input! It puts my mind at ease about them riding some of the rides. I think we will definitely skip Space Mountain and Rockin Roller Coaster this time, but it's very helpful to know that others like them were able to ride some of the headliner rides. Now I can relax a little...
 

He rode Big Thunder Mountain 11 times on our last trip. Expedition Everest 7 times. Primeval Whirl 4 times. Soarin' 3 times. Test Track 3 times. Splash Mountain 1 time. Tower of Terror 1 time.

I was never afraid he was going to fall out because I was sitting next to him both times. An adult and two kids (both 7) sat comfortably on Big Thunder Mountain, Expedition Everest, Primeval Whirl and Test Track. On Soarin' we were sitting individually but we were strapped in extremely well.

I won't let my son ride Space Mountain because it is a single sitter ride. Rockin Rollercoaster probably won't happen either.... my son is too scared of the loops.

Have fun!
My DD has CP, but she is not a walker and goes into extension patterns when she is excited. She has mixed CP - spasticity in her arms and legs, tight hips, but hypotonic in her trunk. She also has some athetoid movements. (quite a combination).

She has been on Tower of Terror once, Test Track many times, Soarin many times and Barnstormer.
I think that Soarin is one of the best rides. You are in a ride car that is kind of like a lawn chair - a little reclined. There is an additional strap you can put between the legs. With that and the seat belt on, you are not going anywhere. Besides that, the ride is very gentle movements (you are on a hang glider, after all).

If he likes Star Wars and wants to go on that, it is pretty jerky, but DD likes it and doesn't have much problem. You can request an extra 4 point harness, which gives a belt that goes over both shoulders. That helps a lot with trunk control.

Another ride DD enjoys is Kali River Rapids. At the regular boarding area, the boats and the dock are sort of moving together. They do also have a wheelchair boarding area where the boat can be 'trapped' so it stays still for boarding. You share a seatbelt between 2 people, but it was not too hard for my DH to control her - the seating is 2 seats together.

My DD has also been on Mission Space, the GREEN (tamer) version. The less intense version is still kind of wild, but less than the full intensity version and it doesn't spin.

DD has not been on Big Thunder Mountain, Expedition Everest or Rock N Roller Coaster because we were afraid we would not be able to control her extension. I have been on them (except for Rock N Roller Coaster) and feel they would be fine if it wasn't for the extension my DD has. Maybe sometime we would do them (we have to feel up to holding her down).
We would never consider Space Mountain for the same reason as MightyMom - the seats are one in front of the other. I rode on Space Mountain with my other DD when she was 5 or 6 and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. She was afraid and I couldn't do anything about it since I was sitting behind her.

The only ride we have ever had a problem on was Primeval Whirl. I can't ride those 'spin-y' type rides, so she rode with her older sister and her dad. Both girls were well above the height requirement, but both are thin. As they came around the track, I could see DD sinking lower and lower in her seat. By the time the ride came to the end, she had slid almost out of the seat and all that was holding her in was the lap bar which was up at her underarms. Watching her, I was really afraid she would fall out. My other DD said she thought the biggest problem was that her sister could not use her legs to help hold herself up. Neither of my DDs will go on that ride again because it's too dangerous for youngest DD and oldest DD says it's way too rough.

I'd suggest maybe having someone else in your party ride Primeval Whirl first. It is a lot rougher than it looks.
Also, if you want to have a sort of 'test' roller coaster, I'd suggest Goofy's Barnstormer. It is a good test in terms of the motion comparing with Big Thunder, but much shorter.

Allearsnet.com has a page with ride car pictures. Most of them don't show the whole ride car, but they do show the seatbelt or restraint.
 
Thank you all for sharing your experiences. I did think about having myself or my husband be the test rider, and this may be the way to go. My boys sometimes need to be reminded that they need to take more precautions than other kids their age (or their identical non-CP brother). I just feel they could be more prone to injury. We have gone to the local Expeditions (fairs) and Mall of America amusement parks with no problems - but these rides are nowhere near on the same scale as Disney.
I also think they would be quite indignant if they were told that I didn't think a ride was safe for them - so my plan is just to avoid those ones that may be troublesome.
There's absolutely no way I would get on Primeval Whirl but after hearing your experience - I won't let them either! They really want to ride the Kali Rapid one, though, so it's good to know that would be a good one for them!
Also, thanks for the link to pictures!!
 
We have gone to the local Expeditions (fairs) and Mall of America amusement parks with no problems - but these rides are nowhere near on the same scale as Disney.
If they have been on the rides at Mall of America, some of the things at WDW are pretty similar. The drop in the mine ride is not as steep as Splash Mountain, but it is a good 'trial' for Splash (I don't remember what the name of the Mall of America one is called now that they don't have Camp Snoopy).
The elevated roller coaster at Mall of America is a pretty good trial ride too. It's not as jerky as Big Thunder Mountain RR, but it is a pretty long roller coaster.
(Actually, I have a funny story to go with the roller coaster at MOA. When the mall first opened, my in-laws came to see us and we all went to the mall. We watched the elevated 'train' as it went by us, close to the boarding area. We could see the track in places and thought it was a nice little elevated train. We had no idea the train was a roller coaster until after we were all on it - 2 DDs, me, DH and my MIL and FIL. It was a very long ride!!!!:scared1: )

I have not ridden Rock n Roller Coaster, but everything I have heard about it is that it is a very smooth roller coaster. My DH has been on it a lot of times and swears it doesn't go upside down. I know better because I've read enough places to know it does.
 
I've done Rock'n'Roller Coaster- I don't have CP but I've had experience with kids with CP (took one to WDW even)

I personally think it would be a good roller coaster to try- the harness goes over the head and is very secure, there are sides to the individual seat, and there is a small hump in between the legs. There are good handles to hold onto as well (they are on the shoulder harness) so even if trunk control isn't perfect the child can hold on to the object that will assist in keeping them upright (as opposed to that holding on and sliding in the opposite direction effect that doesn't help)

I personally enjoy Rock'n'Roller Coaster MORE than Everest- I thought Everest was much scarier/more intense
 
The drop in the mine ride is not as steep as Splash Mountain, but it is a good 'trial' for Splash (I don't remember what the name of the Mall of America one is called now that they don't have Camp Snoopy).


The mine ride (I think it's called Paul Bunyon Log Chute or something) isn't as steep as Splash Mountain?! It felt like it was straight down!

Last time we were there, the Park was actually called "The Parks at MOA"!! My two guys go to the Shriners Hospital - Twin Cities (which is fabulous, by the way) so we are down in Minneapolis 2 or 3 times a year. We were just there and asked if we should be careful about any rides at Disney and they all just said "Have a great time". They both had a selective dorsal rhizotomy 2 years ago, so I was worried about jarring rides - the neurosurgeon gave us the green light :)
 
I think mission space would be o.k., too as you are sitting w/ an overshoulder harness. If you have any concerns, you could try the less intense version first; the simulators are the same, you just don't have the spinning and accompanying gforce. Have a great time!
Nicole
 
I have not ridden Rock n Roller Coaster, but everything I have heard about it is that it is a very smooth roller coaster. My DH has been on it a lot of times and swears it doesn't go upside down. I know better because I've read enough places to know it does.

now you've got me thinking.....
I always assumed rock n Rollercoaster was "jerky" because of how fast it goes..... but now you've got me thinking that this might be something my son might really like. Unlike your DD, my son is hypotonic. He doesn't go into extension... so usually I have a death grip around his torso and he's managed fine. If Rock n Roller coaster has a shoulder harness it might be something he can do.

hmmmmm
 
now you've got me thinking.....
I always assumed rock n Rollercoaster was "jerky" because of how fast it goes..... but now you've got me thinking that this might be something my son might really like. Unlike your DD, my son is hypotonic. He doesn't go into extension... so usually I have a death grip around his torso and he's managed fine. If Rock n Roller coaster has a shoulder harness it might be something he can do.

hmmmmm
We have a death grip too, but ours is to keep her from straightening out of her seat!
Anyway, here's a picture of the ride car from allearsnet:
mgm_rr10.jpg


And a description of it from the DIS site.

And a video from youtube.
 





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