This Is Us- Season two

Also, can I just say I HATE when I hear people say "be strong for the kids" "I have to be strong for the kids" It's OKAY for your children to see you lose it, especially in moments like that! I see so many kids not know how to react to something because the adults around them are so scared to allow them to see real emotion! It's ok for them to realize sometimes life is sad, and sometimes we cry, breakdown, and then we show them life still goes on. Its important for kids to see that.

I will respectively disagree with you as well. I did see your further post about them being older, but I don’t think that really matters. I am not saying adults/parent should show no emotion, but falling apart isn’t good for the kids either. There is a difference between crying and breaking down and kids need to know they have a place to go. Not a death in a family, but we had a traumatic event happen to my oldest; what she needed from me then was to be strong and I needed to show her was we would get through it - this wasn’t the end. If I couldn’t be strong in front of her, she’d believe her own worst fears about the future. I broke down away from her, when I was questioning it myself.

As someone who lost a parent when I was 8 I'll just have to disagree with you.

A little crying is fine but had my mom broken down in front of us I would have been terrified. What we needed was for her to be strong and let us feel that we were safe and we were going to be ok.

I know she went other places when she just couldn't handle it and I'm grateful for that.

I know how to grieve but I also know how to survive.

I’m sorry for your loss and I completely agree.
 
I read in a tabloid the Milo has been a difficult person to work with this past season, even though he has great chemistry on air with Mandy Moore. Maybe he isn't pleased with the outcome of his death on the show also. And some actors get into their character very seriously, and maybe he is dealing with his own mortality. It maybe freaked him out a little bit. Mid life crisis.
 
I read in a tabloid the Milo has been a difficult person to work with this past season, even though he has great chemistry on air with Mandy Moore. Maybe he isn't pleased with the outcome of his death on the show also. And some actors get into their character very seriously, and maybe he is dealing with his own mortality. It maybe freaked him out a little bit. Mid life crisis.

I'd take a tabloid story with a big grain of salt...
 
I will respectively disagree with you as well. I did see your further post about them being older, but I don’t think that really matters. I am not saying adults/parent should show no emotion, but falling apart isn’t good for the kids either. There is a difference between crying and breaking down and kids need to know they have a place to go. Not a death in a family, but we had a traumatic event happen to my oldest; what she needed from me then was to be strong and I needed to show her was we would get through it - this wasn’t the end. If I couldn’t be strong in front of her, she’d believe her own worst fears about the future. I broke down away from her, when I was questioning it myself.



I’m sorry for your loss and I completely agree.
I have to say I’m just naturally a “strong” person when it comes to crisis. I don’t think about it or decide to be, I just am. I fall apart later after all is said and done.
 

I love toby, kate is starting to heal i believe. At the end after seeing future tess, my husband says, im confused... i said that was future tess, he said no, i just saw tonights game on their tvs! Very cool! I was grabbing my face when jack went back in the house, then he came out like a super hero with hands full, i mightve accepted just the dog, maybe, but with all that, im like oh... i did hear 'bec' at the vending machine, but thought i was imagining it. Mandy did great, from the candy to seeing jack, very nice. Kevins healing is good. Im happy to see present rebecca waking up a bit and not being so stiff i guess for lack of a better word. Randall and beth are always terrific!
 
The beginning of the episode felt a whole lot like an instructional video of what NOT to do in a fire. It's almost like Jack wanted to die. He literally made all the mistakes one could when faced with a house fire.

1. Failing to touch the doorknob to see if it was hot. CHECK
2. Failing to crawl low to the ground. CHECK
3. Failing to cover your nose and mouth with some type of cloth if you HAVE to crawl through smoke. CHECK
4. Using an extremely flammable item (mattress) as a shield CHECK
5. Going back for non humans. CHECK
6. Spending time gathering "things" and risking your life for "stuff" that arguably would have no sentimental value if no one had died. CHECK
7. Telling your wife and son to stay closed up in a room and wait for you to come back, rather than telling them to escape out the window and onto the roof immediately. CHECK

I mean, sheesh...I would be angry at my husband forever if he behaved like that and then died because he wanted to rescue an old dog and some photos and videos.

And seriously, there is literally NO way those stairs were even still intact with that fire blazing like that, nevermind them being structurally sound enough for him to walk down. For that matter, the front door would have been so hot and potentially warped that he wouldn't have been able to even open it. That whole part went so far beyond realistic that it was insulting.

No wonder Kate feels so guilty. She should. But I'm surprised Rebecca isn't angrier at Jack for being so stupid. But yet, all they can talk about is how he was SUCH an amazing father and husband. Uh...no...he literally put a dog and a pillowcase full of stuff before his wife and kids.

And now we have to emotionally torture ourselves every week because he died and left his family with a lifetime of emotional scars. And we're all hooked on their drama. LOL.
 
The beginning of the episode felt a whole lot like an instructional video of what NOT to do in a fire. It's almost like Jack wanted to die. He literally made all the mistakes one could when faced with a house fire.

1. Failing to touch the doorknob to see if it was hot. CHECK
2. Failing to crawl low to the ground. CHECK
3. Failing to cover your nose and mouth with some type of cloth if you HAVE to crawl through smoke. CHECK
4. Using an extremely flammable item (mattress) as a shield CHECK
5. Going back for non humans. CHECK
6. Spending time gathering "things" and risking your life for "stuff" that arguably would have no sentimental value if no one had died. CHECK
7. Telling your wife and son to stay closed up in a room and wait for you to come back, rather than telling them to escape out the window and onto the roof immediately. CHECK

I mean, sheesh...I would be angry at my husband forever if he behaved like that and then died because he wanted to rescue an old dog and some photos and videos.

And seriously, there is literally NO way those stairs were even still intact with that fire blazing like that, nevermind them being structurally sound enough for him to walk down. For that matter, the front door would have been so hot and potentially warped that he wouldn't have been able to even open it. That whole part went so far beyond realistic that it was insulting.

No wonder Kate feels so guilty. She should. But I'm surprised Rebecca isn't angrier at Jack for being so stupid. But yet, all they can talk about is how he was SUCH an amazing father and husband. Uh...no...he literally put a dog and a pillowcase full of stuff before his wife and kids.

And now we have to emotionally torture ourselves every week because he died and left his family with a lifetime of emotional scars. And we're all hooked on their drama. LOL.
These were a lot of my thoughts. I would be beyond angry that my husband died because he gathered things instead of getting out. Also I just don’t find it believable that after escaping a fire like that, that parents and kids were okay separating rather than all going to the hospital together. I can’t imagine they’d want to let each other out of their sight. The kids were 17 it’s not like they needed a babysitter. It also bugs me that they weren’t actively looking for Kevin yet Kate knew exactly where to find him when he needed to be informed Jack died.

On #7 I thought Jack was telling Randall he needed to drag Rebecca out if it came to that. No?
 
On #7 I thought Jack was telling Randall he needed to drag Rebecca out if it came to that. No?

Yeah, he did tell him that. But why would you put that on a kid? He should have told Rebecca to get out as soon as he came back with Randall. Really, Rebecca should have done that regardless. I mean, we have two kids. If we were put in this type of situation, where I had one kid and my husband was going after the other, I would trust my husband to handle himself and the other kid and get out while I got out with the kid I had with me. I would not sit in a smoke filled room waiting around for him to come back and the fact that Jack told them both that when he went to get Kate was ridiculous. Couldn't Jack and Kate have gone out her window? Why go back across the hall?
 
The beginning of the episode felt a whole lot like an instructional video of what NOT to do in a fire. It's almost like Jack wanted to die. He literally made all the mistakes one could when faced with a house fire.

1. Failing to touch the doorknob to see if it was hot. CHECK
2. Failing to crawl low to the ground. CHECK
3. Failing to cover your nose and mouth with some type of cloth if you HAVE to crawl through smoke. CHECK
4. Using an extremely flammable item (mattress) as a shield CHECK
5. Going back for non humans. CHECK
6. Spending time gathering "things" and risking your life for "stuff" that arguably would have no sentimental value if no one had died. CHECK
7. Telling your wife and son to stay closed up in a room and wait for you to come back, rather than telling them to escape out the window and onto the roof immediately. CHECK

I mean, sheesh...I would be angry at my husband forever if he behaved like that and then died because he wanted to rescue an old dog and some photos and videos.

And seriously, there is literally NO way those stairs were even still intact with that fire blazing like that, nevermind them being structurally sound enough for him to walk down. For that matter, the front door would have been so hot and potentially warped that he wouldn't have been able to even open it. That whole part went so far beyond realistic that it was insulting.

No wonder Kate feels so guilty. She should. But I'm surprised Rebecca isn't angrier at Jack for being so stupid. But yet, all they can talk about is how he was SUCH an amazing father and husband. Uh...no...he literally put a dog and a pillowcase full of stuff before his wife and kids.

And now we have to emotionally torture ourselves every week because he died and left his family with a lifetime of emotional scars. And we're all hooked on their drama. LOL.
Well when you put it like that.....LOL
But I can't say I disagree. I felt like screaming at my TV during the entire scene. Kate standing on the lawn screaming for the dog was gut wrenching. She knew her dad would go back for the dog but I guess in the moment it was a natural reaction.

Absolutely loved the flash forward with Tess. Didn't see that one coming at all. I missed the current superbowl scenes, I'll have to go back and rewatch.

I did catch Jack say "Bec" while she was at the vending machine (I thought I imagined it, so I'm glad I'm not crazy). I thought all the activity going on behind her was so well done. It would have been too much, I think, if they would have showed Jack actually being worked on. But too little if we wouldn't have seen anything at all unfolding.
 
Yeah, he did tell him that. But why would you put that on a kid? He should have told Rebecca to get out as soon as he came back with Randall. Really, Rebecca should have done that regardless. I mean, we have two kids. If we were put in this type of situation, where I had one kid and my husband was going after the other, I would trust my husband to handle himself and the other kid and get out while I got out with the kid I had with me. I would not sit in a smoke filled room waiting around for him to come back and the fact that Jack told them both that when he went to get Kate was ridiculous. Couldn't Jack and Kate have gone out her window? Why go back across the hall?
He told Kate the first time he came in to get her in her room it was too high to go out that side of the house. The backs of most houses don't have porch roofs on them, they are a straight drop to the ground from the second floor windows.
 
It also bugs me that they weren’t actively looking for Kevin yet Kate knew exactly where to find him when he needed to be informed Jack died.

I thought Kate had been calling friends to see if anyone knew where Kevin and Sophie were, and finally found out between Rebecca's phone call and when she got to Miguel's.

On #7 I thought Jack was telling Randall he needed to drag Rebecca out if it came to that. No?

Yes. I thought he was telling him to get her out while he went back for Kate.

Couldn't Jack and Kate have gone out her window? Why go back across the hall?

I thought he told Kate it was too high from that side? The other side had the porch roof to climb out on.
 
Yeah, he did tell him that. But why would you put that on a kid? He should have told Rebecca to get out as soon as he came back with Randall. Really, Rebecca should have done that regardless. I mean, we have two kids. If we were put in this type of situation, where I had one kid and my husband was going after the other, I would trust my husband to handle himself and the other kid and get out while I got out with the kid I had with me. I would not sit in a smoke filled room waiting around for him to come back and the fact that Jack told them both that when he went to get Kate was ridiculous. Couldn't Jack and Kate have gone out her window? Why go back across the hall?
Very good point. Jack did say Kate’s window was too high to get out. I really thought he was going to take that mattress, throw it out the window and have her jump though.
 
I missed the part with Randalls girlfriend. Did Randall call her and ask her to come over. He was out on a date with her that evening, and he came home and had a conversation with his dad. The girlfriend never came home with him.
 
He told Kate the first time he came in to get her in her room it was too high to go out that side of the house.

Okay, I can see that. That's why you get one of those roll up ladders for a room that has no other way out. We can go out any of our upper floor room windows because they all have a roof landing below them, so I guess that was my train of thought.

I can tell you this much, though, I am very grateful that our home has a sprinkler system in every room. A house fire is my worst nightmare.
 
I escaped from a house fire as a child, so I had some serious anxiety about watching this episode. None of us were injured, but we lost everything we owned, as our house literally burned to the ground. My parents did the same thing Rebecca did and took us to a neighbors, while they dealt with the aftermath. I didn't find that an implausible part of the story at all. Knowing we were safe was one less thing for my parents to worry about in the chaos.
 














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