This is Us- Season four

[brockash]

I think it was very selfish of her. She was willing to ruin his excitement over it in an attempt to assuage her guilt and make herself feel better. She needed to let him have that.

Hmmm... interesting, I too thought she was just feeling really guilty about it and didn't want to have a "secret." I do think she should've just let him think what he wanted, but I didn't take it as being out of malicious.

 

[brockash]

People (I think) are referring to the final scene of Season 3, when the family is all gathering at Kevin's house to see Rebecca, who is bed ridden. The scene includes a glimpse of Kevin's son.

Ok, I thought they were talking about the flash forward from last night. I guess I had forgotten we even ever saw Kevins child before.

 

[Dentam]

Do we know that Toby was talking to a woman? Wasn't it just his crossfit group chat?

Yes, it was a woman. Her handle was LadyKryptonite5. Here is an interview with an executive produce of the show: https://ew.com/tv/2019/11/19/this-is-us-fall-finale-breakdown-rebecca-kevin-nicky/

 

[Dentam]

Right...I was saying that at the store when Randall was calling was the 9 months later...everything we saw of her out of the house was 9 months later, which would mean that she and Randall were probably still on speaking terms etc.

I'm still a bit confused on this part. So, when the police have her in the car and say she's a long way from home (LA), how do they know to take her to the family's cabin in the woods? Or maybe Rebecca still remembers that address/location?

 

[brockash]

I'm still a bit confused on this part. So, when the police have her in the car and say she's a long way from home (LA), how do they know to take her to the family's cabin in the woods? Or maybe Rebecca still remembers that address/location?

Yes, I was as well. The only thing I could think is that they ran her license and somehow the cabin came up??? I thought they took her license, but I have no idea why the cabins address would be on it. - Or perhaps they were able to find the phone number of Miguel or one of the others by her license??

 

[mom2rtk]

Hmmm... interesting, I too thought she was just feeling really guilty about it and didn't want to have a "secret." I do think she should've just let him think what he wanted, but I didn't take it as being out of malicious.

Oh, I don't think it was malicious. Just selfish. She just wanted to dump her guilt over the incident, without considering how it would make him feel.

 

[3threebabies]

Episode was amazeballs. Thread gave lot of great commentary, but I can’t get over something small that is making me crazy!! Toby (and his CrossFit group) go on about Paleo (and whole food) diet, so why did he bring tempeh? Turkey is way more Paleo. There is some commercial nut cheese that is very good in addition to being Paleo and vegan. Tempeh (whether homemade or commercial) is fermented legumes and/or grains—both of which are considered forbidden by most Paleo followers.

 

[bethbuchall]

I think it was very selfish of her. She was willing to ruin his excitement over it in an attempt to assuage her guilt and make herself feel better. She needed to let him have that.

I didn't see it that way, but I guess I'm honest to a fault sometimes.

 

[PollyannaMom]

I'm still a bit confused on this part. So, when the police have her in the car and say she's a long way from home (LA), how do they know to take her to the family's cabin in the woods? Or maybe Rebecca still remembers that address/location?

I think the family members at the cabin may have called the cops. She seemed to be apologizing for leaving, so I bet they didn't know/approve.

The officers may have checked her ID just to confirm the name matched the one they were looking for.

 

[AustinTink]

I think the family members at the cabin may have called the cops. She seemed to be apologizing for leaving, so I bet they didn't know/approve.

The officers may have checked her ID just to confirm the name matched the one they were looking for.

There may have been a silver alert issued for her when she slipped out without them noticing. It seems to happen all too often around here. I get the alerts on my phone all the time.

 

[DisLiss]

Great episode. I absolutely bought that Rebecca was having all of that confusion while out on her outing that day--Thanksgiving. And they even gave us a clue, because she mentioned buying a *cake* during the scene at the store where she gets distracted by the flowers, not a *pie*, which is what she told Randall she would buy when she left on Thanksgiving. I just thought the switch from pie to cake was part of the confusion! Then when she returned on Thanksgiving (After we already saw her returned to the cabin.), I noticed right away that they dressed her in something noticeably different (red as opposed to the drab coat) to reinforce that we were seeing two different times.

I agree that Randall could have still talking to Rebecca 9 months into the future since he was calling her during the birthday outing. UNLESS, they weren't talking, but since it was their birthday, he decided this was the right day to reach out?? You can never assume anything with this show, right??

As for Kevin's fiancee---not even going to try to guess. All I know for certain is that any thoughts that Cassidy got pregnant during their lapse of judgement in the trailer seem to be squashed by the fact that his fiancee is experiencing morning sickness in 9 months, not getting ready to deliver. That doesn't mean it's still not Cassidy, of course, just that she's not likely pregnant with a baby conceived at that particular time.

I loved the whole thing with Nicky going with Randall & Annie. I loved the thanksgiving flashbacks and that he learned that Jack was sharing bits of him with his kids in a way. And I love the adult Jack was continuing the shrimp tradition.

Kate & Toby: I disagree that Kate was being selfish or whatnot in telling him. Once it became apparent that he was sharing that "first" far & wide, it would have made me nervous if I were Kate. Because they had promised not to keep secrets and someone else knew this secret. Someone Toby could certainly accidentally learn the truth from--the next door neighbor. I think she really didn't want to tell him, but felt she had no choice since he would have likely been much more upset if he learned it from the neighbor in the future. (I doubt the neighbor would have brought it up, but I think the fact that Toby was telling *everyone* about it may have made her worry that Toby might mention it to the neighbor, too.)

I adored Kevin helping Tess. And I was so proud of her for going with his idea and how it seemed to bolster her up getting a simple "Cool" from the drive-through employee enough to go home and post Zendaya as her crush. I hope things continue to go in a positive direction for Tess.

And speaking of positives---I love how Beth helped Deja look for the good times with Shauna. Considering how Beth had been feeling, it shows how much she loves Deja and how she wants the best for her that she would try to repair the situation for Deja.

And of course, I was blown away by the last few minutes when they managed to pack in more info and more questions in under 5 minutes than we've accumulated over the whole first half of the season. I just love how they do that. It was so reminiscent of the end of last season.

 

[AustinTink]

I adored Kevin helping Tess. And I was so proud of her for going with his idea and how it seemed to bolster her up getting a simple "Cool" from the drive-through employee enough to go home and post Zendaya as her crush. I hope things continue to go in a positive direction for Tess.

Kevin and Tess have a very special relationship. I wonder if the strain between Kevin and Randall down the road is not about Rebecca but possibly Tess. Randall may accuse Kevin of overstepping at some point.

 

[kimblebee]

Wow, you guys have been busy. I forgot to multi quote so I’ll just generalize...

Kevin didn’t say his fiancée had morning sickness, he said that she had nausea like all the time. Sometimes it can last a while pregnancy so I bet she’s further along and people are being duped into thinking it’s early stage morning sickness. Having said that, I REALLY hope it’s not army girl.

At the cabin, Kevin didn’t say I’M not talking to him (Randall), he said WE aren’t talking to him. I rewound a few times to make sure I heard it correctly. Who’s we?

In this episode, I saw a lot of Jacks mannerisms being copied by Kevin. He reached out and held Nickys head, like Jack used to do, and when Kevin was talking about getting married and having kids he made a face that was identical to Jack, kind of a squinty happy face lol

I didn’t really like the episode until the last five minutes. I don’t think the rest of this season is going to be sunshine and roses.

 

[kimblebee]

This makes me sad. I don't understand why people hate Sidney so much. Is it because he is the GOAT?? He is an incredible person...the kindest, sweetest, most humble man. And he is also very generous to others. And yes, I know him personally.

That’s great that you know him personally. He is everything you say he is as a person. As a player, he’s a whiner and has always believed his own hype.

 

[sksjasams]

At the cabin, Kevin didn’t say I’M not talking to him (Randall), he said WE aren’t talking to him. I rewound a few times to make sure I heard it correctly. Who’s we?

I believe he said "we're not speaking"...which I took to mean him and Randall. There could be others also not speaking to Randall, but we can't know based on that comment.

 

[Dentam]

I thought Kevin said "we're not speaking to him, remember mom?" I will need to rewatch the episode this weekend to catch more details like this.

 

[Mika02]

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I wrote this out last night and deleted. PSA coming -

Everyone needs to read up on vitamin b12 deficiency, simply to be educated for yourself and your loved ones. Please know I am not insinuating that the majority of cases of dementia are due to this issue; there is no evidence of that. However, some cases definitely are due to it and easily misdiagnosed. Also when b12 deficiency goes untreated and leads to neurological symptoms time is of the essence for recovery.

B12 should never have been called a vitamin. Although it can be about nutrients, the horrid cases are about an absorption issue due to age, medications, diseases/conditions or pernicious anemia.

B12 deficiency can come at any age and can cause gait changes, foot dropping, falls, nerve pain, pins and needles, muscle weakness/poor muscle recovery, extreme fatigue, failure to thrive in toddlers, double vision, electric like surges in body, psychiatric issues etc.

And when it follows the dementia route - memory, word-finding issues, confusion, brain fog, agitation, hallucinations etc.

The elderly are even more susceptible because absorption issues are more common after sixty.

Simply saying first step should be to check levels, to rule it out. And know that many doctors are ignorant about it - fifteen minutes in medical school kind of deal. And North American normals are lower than other areas.

One story of many -

A nurse's mother passed away, diagnosis of Alzheimer's. She decided on an autopsy. Finds out her mother did not have Alzheimer's after all - complete misdiagnosis. It was a b12 deficiency. Imagine that horror. Just saddens me.

A great read for proper care and to prepare oneself for erroneous information from medical professionals -

https://stichtingb12tekort.nl/weten...nglish/misconceptions-about-a-b12-deficiency/
Some videos -

And this one is very long and heads up has extreme cases ---

Okay, simply spreading the word. Excuse the interruption. Carry on.

This is so true I recently had weight loss surgery and one of the side effects is B12 deficiency. I actually had a complication so I couldn't start my B12 regimen for a few months and I swear I was having the most difficult time remembering things on the daily. Which is unlike me I have a steel memory. Been taking my supplements and it's much better now though.

 

[Pooh93]

Kevin and Tess have a very special relationship. I wonder if the strain between Kevin and Randall down the road is not about Rebecca but possibly Tess. Randall may accuse Kevin of overstepping at some point.

I have been thinking about it over the last couple days off and on...that's what this show does to me! lol I am leaning towards something like this that has nothing to do with Rebecca. I try to keep in mind this show always twists and it's never the obvious plot that usually happens.

 

[bethbuchall]

I thought Kevin said "we're not speaking to him, remember mom?" I will need to rewatch the episode this weekend to catch more details like this.

I think it was "We're not speaking; remember mom," but I also think it was left intentionally vague. It could be just Randall and Kevin aren't speaking or it could be that several family members aren't speaking to Randall. But I also need to rewatch to be sure.

 

[mjkacmom]

I thought he said we’re not speaking, the first thing that popped into my head was it had something to do with Tess. I’m sure we are not at the end of her coming out story, being so great.