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This was an actual letter sent out by the St. Mary's Church that was found online and one of my friends posted on facebook.

If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone astray from the Lord. Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in.

The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counselling, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.
-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.
-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
-Takes drugs.
-Drinks alcohol.
-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)
-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake during the night.
-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through
meditation.)
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.
-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.
-Misbehaves at school.
-Misbehaves at home.
-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.
-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very
dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your
child may watch.)
-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature.
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

~St. Mary's Catholic Church
 
That's a really good warning. Lot's of youth these days are getting lost from the Lord.
 
A lot of those made me laugh. I'd say more but I'm too tired to try to make any sense...so I might edit this later or just post again...
 
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.
-Takes drugs.
-Drinks alcohol.
-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake during the night.
-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light.
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness.
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.
-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.
-Misbehaves at school.
-Misbehaves at home.
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your
child may watch.)
-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature.
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.


Ok so i definitely think that if these apply to a child, it doesnt mean they are necessarily gothic, But it DOES mean they are going astray from the Lord. So still intervention is necessary.
 
I actually pretain to quite a few of these things:

Frequently wears black clothing. (I like black. I look good in it.)
Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports. (I have never had an interest in any of these)
Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan. (I read Harry Potter, Twilight, Wicked, etc)
Complains of boredom. (Duh)
Spends large amounts of time alone. (I'm an only child...)
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through meditation.) (wth?)
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. (It's called being an adult)
Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this. (Lmao. I love that cereal!)
Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.) (Ooh, I'm sooooo bad)
Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer. (so?)
Expresses an interest in sex. (I AM a teenager...)
-Masturbates (No comment)
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual. (I'm bi. OMG I'm a sin! WHATEVER)

ETA: That letter is absurd. If kids spend some alone time, it's usually because they're shy! Or they might be an only child! If kids use the computer often, maybe they're doing homework. Teenagers are going to express an interest in sex, it's a hormonal thing. Let kids be how they want to be without labeling them as "goth" or "unholy".
 
Some of those are just things that people like and doesnt mean their gothic OR straying from the Lord.
I'm a Christian and and I like painting my nails black.Not because i'm gothic or i'm straying from the lord.I just think black matches with everything.
I didnt read the entire list so theres probably more that i do but I sort of agree with PigletGurl.Some of those doesnt mean your gothic, It just means you may be straying from the Lord.But not all of them.
 
I counted at least 10 things on there that apply to me, but i'm the complete opposite.
 
-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.
-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.
-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)
-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake during the night.
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.
-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.
-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your
child may watch.)
-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature.
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm laughing sooooo hard right now, because all of those above apply to me. I'm GOTH!!! Except not. Oh, my Satan. When will people learn?!

Also- A lot (ok, ALL) of what they said about "Satanic rituals" is WRONG! Satanism doesn't believe in any of that. Also, I'd consider Satanism equally, if not more, "wholesome" than Christianity in some respects. We don't condone drinking in excess and we don't condone drug use. We encourage our members to avoid being promiscuous.

Ugh. Sometimes...people annoy me.
 
I think the one that says that they eat Count Dracula cereal is hilarious.
 
-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.
-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.
-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
-Takes drugs.
-Drinks alcohol.
-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)
-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake during the night.
-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through
meditation.)
(AHAHAHAH....wow....ever heard of HOMEWORK!?)
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. (OH NOEZ!)
-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.
-Misbehaves at school.
-Misbehaves at home.

-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.
-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very
dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your
child may watch.)
-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature.
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. (AHAH)
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates

-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
-Claims to be a goth.

First of all, i LOL'd...that's RIDICULOUS!
OKAY srsly...this can't be real....EATING COUNT CHOCULA MEANS YOU'RE STRAYING FROM GOD?!?!?!?!? cooooome ooooon!!

And K,so....mostly everything I highlighted basically pertains to being a normal teenager....excessive sleep, wanting more privacy, masturbating, complaining of boredom, playing video games/going online.

Come on, this is SO ridiculous, I can't believe it's real...I cannot for the life of me believe that some people think eating count chocula or shaking your head to music are associated with Satan and therefore mean you are straying from God and just makes me LOL @ the insane anal retentive god fearing parents who wrote this.

sorry if i've offended anyone with my reaction...but for real?? :scared:
 
This was an actual letter sent out by the St. Mary's Church that was found online and one of my friends posted on facebook.

If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord!

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone astray from the Lord. Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in.

The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counselling, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:

-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.

-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.
-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.
-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
-Takes drugs.
-Drinks alcohol.
-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)
-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake during the night.

-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through
meditation.)
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.

-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.
-Misbehaves at school.
-Misbehaves at home.
-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.:rotfl:
-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very
dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your
child may watch.)

-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature.
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates

-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

~St. Mary's Catholic Church

oh no. i'm going to hell. :rolleyes:
 
Ok so i definitely think that if these apply to a child, it doesnt mean they are necessarily gothic, But it DOES mean they are going astray from the Lord. So still intervention is necessary.


masturbating is not wrong and does not require intervention.
 
masturbating is not wrong and does not require intervention.

For Christians it is. Eph 5:3 (NIV) But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.

and btw masturbating is DISGUSTING

eww
 
-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.

-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.
-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church
or sports.
-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
-Takes drugs.
-Drinks alcohol.
-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)
-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake during the night.

-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through
meditation.)

-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.
-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.
-Misbehaves at school.
-Misbehaves at home.
-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.
-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very
dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your
child may watch.)

-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing nature.
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.

~St. Mary's Catholic Church
Oh noes. I'm going to hell.

I wear black cause it looks slimming on me. I wear band shirts so I can show support for my favorite bands. I have my ears pierced and I want a few tattoos. My friends are my friends. I don't attend church or read the bible becuase I'm not too religious. Everyone says I'm bored at one time or another. I've got sleeping problems from being in the hospital for 10 months - sue me! I get headaches alot, so? I like to hang with my friends, and we like to talk about stuff parents shouldn't know about. I antagonize my sister all the time. I watch cable. I like using the computer. I express and interest in sex so I can educate myself about proper BC and pregnancy prevention.
 
For Christians it is. Eph 5:3 (NIV) But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.

and btw masturbating is DISGUSTING

eww

I'm sorry but where does that say anything about masturbating?
To me that quote is just about being sexually immoral, which to me is cheating on a significant other, or committing any sort of sexual abuse/assault, and sexual impurity or greed would mean being overtly promiscuous or careless with your sexuality.

Doesn't really say anything about healthy sexual behaviour. IMHO :confused3
 
How is Satanism a dangerous religion? I don't agree with it, but it's not dangerous! Neither are any of the other religions (or "religions" in Scientology's case) are dangerous either! Get a life, St. Mary's Church!

I'm not worrying, cause I don't believe in hell.

Sex is actually really healthy for you.
 
I think the one that says that they eat Count Dracula cereal is hilarious.

haha. so do i! xD
...
from reading that, i apply to about 11 of those.
so im guessing this means im goth?
i think not. :rolleyes:
 
I'm sorry but where does that say anything about masturbating?
To me that quote is just about being sexually immoral, which to me is cheating on a significant other, or committing any sort of sexual abuse/assault, and sexual impurity or greed would mean being overtly promiscuous or careless with your sexuality.

Doesn't really say anything about healthy sexual behaviour. IMHO :confused3

Psalm 119:35-37 – “Direct me in the path of your commands, for there I find delight. Turn my heart toward your statues and not toward selfish gain. Turn my eyes away from worthless things; preserve my life according to your word.”


what are u gaining by masturbating? nothing.
How does masturbating GLORIFY God? :confused3
I don't think God wants us to 'pleasure' ourselves. ewww
 





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