The worst news - keep praying for Caitlyn

I agree she should contact robins lawyers asap, also if the bio dad has not had any contact with the child the grandmother might be able to file for custody as a third party If he can be proven an unfit parent. Here is a link that might help with advice about texas laws.

http://www.childcustodyattorney.com/texas/index.html

Hope this helps
 
oh my - this is really bad! Those people are truly awful. Please please, tell Robin's mother to contact a lawyer TODAY.

That poor woman - she doesn't need to have to deal with this now. Poor Caitlyn, does she even know about her mommy???
 
I can't believe this is happening. I'll be praying for little Caitlyn.
 
Oh my gosh! Tell her to talk to a lawyer ASAP before he bolts with Caitlyn. Keep us informed! I'm praying even harder. I'll pass the word among my friends. I believe in the power of prayer.
 

Oh no! This is so sad. :(
I will keep praying for Caitlyn and Robin's family.
 
The same type of thing happened when my cousin died, and her daughter's father wouldn't let her see the grandmother anymore.

This is heartbreaking, and scary, too.
 
Janette,
Has Robin's mom talked on the phone to Caitlyn at all?
 
this is horrible, but not unexpected.

robin was never able to legally prove her allegations against her ex husband, or none of this would be happening now.

From the paternal grandmother's point of view, Robin made false allegations against Caitlyn's father to gain the upper hand in a custody dispute. from the father's family's point of view, Robin and her family tried to keep Caitlyn from them for her own reasons.

parents are viewed as the natural custodians of their children. the law favors a natural parent's custody rights over the rights of a non parent unless these is some heavy-duty reason to keep a child away from the parent.

grandparents generally have some sort of visitation rights they can enforce in court, but those rights are secondary to the parent's right to raise the child. and visitation can be denied if there is animosity between the parent and the grandparent. the US Supreme Court rendered an opinion not too long about about a Washington State grandparents' rights case, where the mother remarried after the father died and refused to let her former in laws see her children, and the grandparnets were unable get visitation rights.


this is going to get very very ugly. poor Caitlyn.
 
Janette, I understand that the funeral is their primary concern but THEY NEED to contact Robin's attorney IMMEDIATELY.

I can't believe all this.
 
This is just so sad! :( Prayers and thoughts going out to Caitlyn...Please keep us updated!!
 
No, they haven't allowed any contact.

She asked Caitlyn's dad to let her tell Caitlyn about Robin or at least be there but he told her to stay away and went and told Caitlyn himself.

The other grandmother hasn't even called her to say she's sorry that Robin is gone.

I don't think there is any risk of him running off with her, he doesn't need to the law is on his side right now :(
 
I understand that Robin's mom is grieving over the death of her daughter, but in this circumstance, burying her daughter should not be her primary concern, Robin is gone, but Caitlyn is still here and in desperate need of help. That should be the primary concern right now if Robin's mom ever wants to see her granddaughter again.
 
Would it help to provide Robin's mother with the posts that were printed out last night having to do with ex's abuse of Caitlyn? Also please check your pm box. It's important. Thanks. Barbara
 
no, marlasmom, I don't think that would be useful at all.

what Robin told internet strangers, or what we think, is not going to matter at all. I believe Robin told us the truth about what was going on in her life. But I have no evidence to legally support that belief.

what would be helpful is the evidence Robin gave to her attorney and/or to any investigating agencies or court officials.

a post on an internet board has no evidentiary weight whatsoever.

and it could also be used against Robin's mother -- the father could allege that Robin defamed him on this board, and that she was trying to poison everyone's mind against him.
 
I don't believe there was a custody battle SB. Caitlyn's paternal grandmother realized that 'something' might have happened and agreed to not let Caitlyn be alone with her father.

Of course all of those things could have changed now...
 
I have to agree with Briar Rose on this one . . .






The law sees things in black and white, while we can see all kinds of gray here.

The law says that in the absence of a legal curtailment of parental rights (ie. termination), custody of a minor child will always go to the surviving birth parent, over step-parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles, friends, etc.

I don't know for sure, but I don't believe there was ever any proven and registered child abuse filed on Caitlyn's dad, and no TPR (termination of parental rights).

That being the case, upon Robin's death, sole custody goes to Caitlyn's birth father. And in cases where grandparents have sued for custody, they have never been able to win over a birth parent.

The fundamental principle here is that parents should always have primary custody of their own children, UNTIL that time that they are PROVEN in a court of law to be unfit. Not based on postings on an Internet bulletin board.



But I also, pray for the safety and wellbeing of Caitlyn . . . :( :(
 


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