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[hucifer]

I think Carl did the right thing. If he let the boy go, he would run to the others to let them know where they were hiding.

 

[jetskigrl]

I think that was what got him killed. If he'd dropped the gun, maybe Carl wouldn't have shot him. In that pause, that kid looked like he was going to try something stupid, and that's why Carl shot.

The sad part is, that kid was probably as scared as they were, which is probably why he hesitated.

Yep!

I think Carl did the right thing. If he let the boy go, he would run to the others to let them know where they were hiding.

And yep!

I was talking to the TV on that one too....telling the kid to drop the gun like Carl said, don't try to hand it to him (if that is what he was really doing).

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

Meanwhile, I feel that people who are diehard fans of the show will either watch it on the night it airs or the next morning, and people want to talk about it while it is current, relevant and newsworthy. They don't want to talk about it in 2 weeks or in 2 months. We want to discuss the show while it is fresh on our minds and currently in the news (TWD finale scored the highest ratings of the series on Sunday, so it is still in the news), and it's a buzzkill to have to wait for other people to catch up.

I feel like people shouldn't get angry about discussions on a show immediately following the airing. I read this thread and the OUAT thread on the DISboards, and I know not to open it if I haven't seen the episode yet. Its not hard.

My apologies, I was wrong. It was just one of the woodbury kids we didn't know. I still think Carl did the right thing.

I also have a second theory:

Carl sees semi attractive boy closer to Beth's age than he is. Thinks about it for a second, then decides to just solve that problem right away

I think Carl did the right thing. If he let the boy go, he would run to the others to let them know where they were hiding.

This is exactly what Carl and Rick were discussing earlier in the episode. Rick let Andrew (one of the prisoners) go, he comes back and gets T Dog and Lori killed. Yeah, Carl could have let him run off, then what? Who gets killed this time?

Its really not even an issue though, the boy didn't drop his weapon and advanced.

 

[swandiverpatt]

I avoided most media yesterday to avoid spoilers. Phew!!

Okay, I did not notice Andrea's pedicure but I did make the comment that Andrea obviously could not multi-task. If I was given a tool that would free me from a dying man whom I knew would become a zombie and eat me, I'd be working on that chore instead of yakking.

One question I had: When the governor shot all of his people, then gathered his two people up into his truck -- why didn't they take 3 trucks for the equipment, gas,etc. (Never mind not shooting the governor ...)

I hope they gathered up a lot of supplies from the town because they've brought in a lot of needy people.

I'm hoping they're on the move next season instead of hunkering down in the prison.

And I wouldn't mind a hook-up between Rick and Michonne.

 

[jetskigrl]

The kid with Tyreese's group was Ben, and he was shot by Merle. It was the episode where Merle was turned into a zombie.

Merle was aiming at the governor and, the moment he fired the gun, Ben stepped in front of the governor and was killed instead.

I don't know who the kid Carl killed was, he didn't look familiar at all.

Yep, I had to look him up because I had never seen him before. It looks like they pulled his character out of thin air for this scene


Actor Tanner Holland
Gender Male
Hair Brown
Age Teens; 16-19
Occupation Unknown
Relations Unknown
First Appearance "Welcome to the Tombs"
Last Appearance "Welcome to the Tombs"
Death Episode "Welcome to the Tombs"
Cause of Death Shot in the head by Carl
Status Dead
Series lifespan "Welcome to the Tombs"
Ethnicity Caucasian-American

Pre-Apocalypse
Nothing is known about Jody's life before the outbreak or as the outbreak began. It is possible that he was a resident at Woodbury before the apocalypse.

Post-Apocalypse
Nothing is known about Jody's life after the outbreak. Except that he had taken shelter in Woodbury and enlisted in The Governor's army to fight Rick's group at the prison.

Killed Victims
This list shows the victims Jody has killed:

Possibly numerous counts of zombies.

Death
Killed By
Carl Grimes
After fleeing the ambush at the prison, he runs into the woods where he comes across Hershel, Beth and Carl. Too slow to drop his gun, Jody is shot by Carl while attempting to surrender. Carl later explains to his father that he killed Jody because he may have come back and killed someone, just like how Rick did not kill Andrew, who later returned and caused the death of T-Dog and Lori.

 

[skylizard]

I feel like people shouldn't get angry about discussions on a show immediately following the airing. I read this thread and the OUAT thread on the DISboards, and I know not to open it if I haven't seen the episode yet. Its not hard.

I didn't catch up on this thread until I had seen all the episodes, including the finale. The whole point of this thread is to discuss the show, including current episodes. I don't get how anyone can be mad about that, unless they are dropping a spoiler for a future episode!

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

One question I had: When the governor shot all of his people, then gathered his two people up into his truck -- why didn't they take 3 trucks for the equipment, gas,etc. (Never mind not shooting the governor ...)

I hope they gathered up a lot of supplies from the town because they've brought in a lot of needy people.

I'm hoping they're on the move next season instead of hunkering down in the prison.

And I wouldn't mind a hook-up between Rick and Michonne.

I guess when you finally board the crazy train and massacre most of your army you really aren't thinking straight to take the army truck with the heavy artillery.

I hope the prison crew went back and took the army trucks, park the one with the heavy gun in a strategic position and no one will even be able to approach the prison gate.

I also like Rick and Michonne. That is why I am wary of Karen, I already have all the prison crew paired off in my mind.

Daryl and Carol (I hated Carol season 1 and 2 but she is awesome this season, and the writers have been slowly building these 2 up forever).

Rick and Michonne

Carl and Beth (in a few years)

Glenn and Maggie (obviously)

 

[elgerber]

I didn't catch up on this thread until I had seen all the episodes, including the finale. The whole point of this thread is to discuss the show, including current episodes. I don't get how anyone can be mad about that, unless they are dropping a spoiler for a future episode!

Agreed, while spoilers are not cool, once it's aired, it's fair game. If I can't watch on time, I avoid this thread like the plague, until I've watched LOL.

I agree, that kid should have put his gun down, but I think it's more Carls attitude that was making him like Shane.

As far as the governer not taking all the trucks, he wouldn't be able to ensure that Martinez and the other guy stay with him, if they were each driving their own trucks. They could just drive away from him.

 

[Colleen27]

Maggie and Glenn: All this episode I winced when they were on screen, kept expecting them to get sniped or bit. I don't think happiness is allowed in the zombie apocalypse.



Season 4: I wonder if we'll do another time jump? They don't seem to like to show winters on this show. If it does a time jump, I hope we see how everyone has made the prison a real home. All the prison yard should be planted with crops, people should make little homes out of the cells and be playing games and reading (prisons gotta have a library). Then the Governor can show up out of nowhere at the mid season finale and cause chaos.

I felt the same about Maggie and Glenn. When he stepped out and took off his helmet as the Woodbury 'army' was fleeing I thought for sure he was going to get picked off.

I hope they don't do another time jump. It would skip over far too much of the human side of the drama, basically taking the whole "basic survival" issue out of play just as they're dealing with the addition of a large number of less than able bodied people to the group and the time of year where survival is most difficult. But I think they will because the nuts and bolts of surviving doesn't exactly make for riveting television.

As far as the Governor goes, when he disappeared my daughter and I both had the same thought - in the comics, after Woodbury/the prison what's left of Rick's group comes into conflict with someone who has essentially built up an army and is running a post-apocalyptic protection racket. If they do another time jump, it wouldn't be difficult to see the Governor re-creating himself in more or less the image of that particular villain, especially with Martinez and his other henchman at his side. It would be a logical evolution of his character, from pretending to be the benevolent leader and trying to rebuild something resembling normal life to openly being the sadistic monster he's revealed himself to be and preying on other survivors who are clinging to humanity/morality.

 

[micknpluto]

I love season 2 the best. Season 3 So chaotic...the writers feel as though they have to top the previous season by implementing all sorts of crazy story lines. Is this the way it's gonna be season 4?

 

[Sherry E]

I also like Rick and Michonne. That is why I am wary of Karen, I already have all the prison crew paired off in my mind.

Daryl and Carol (I hated Carol season 1 and 2 but she is awesome this season, and the writers have been slowly building these 2 up forever).

Rick and Michonne

Carl and Beth (in a few years)

Glenn and Maggie (obviously)

I was thinking that Karen could end up as an interest for Tyreese. But even if she ends up hooking up with no one (she may be dead by episode 2 of the next season, for all I know), her mere presence could light a fire under some of the other potential hook-ups and get them going!

For example, if Karen starts getting chummy with Rick, maybe Michonne will get annoyed and Rick will notice that annoyance.

If Karen sidles on over to Daryl and giggles at some of his witty one-liners, Carol might finally step up to the plate and get her man!

I don't like Carl, so I don't care who he ends up with!

As for Carol and Daryl - yes, there has been build-up and a kind of 'will they or won't they' tension for a while, but I'm not sure IF they will hook up. I don't picture Carol lasting too much longer on the show, for some reason. Sometimes they flirt (she flirts more with him than he does with her, I think) and sometimes there is more of a motherly vibe from her. Sometimes they just seem like unlikely pals. Let's face it - in the real world, that is a pairing that probably would not happen because they seem to be a mismatch. In the zombie world, people are forced together and end up bonding under bizarre circumstances and things may spring from that.

I heard an interview that Norman Reedus did last year at some point (with GeekTime on Sirius, I think it was??), well before season 3, and he was asked what was going to happen with Daryl and Carol. He said that he didn't know if they would end up together or not, but that IF they did he hoped it would - and I am paraphrasing because I cannot recall the exact quote - not be a good experience. He didn't want it to be perfect and romantic and all of that. He wanted it to be flawed. It almost sounded as if Norman wanted a Daryl/Carol hook-up to be a disaster!

Then again, that was a while ago so Norman may have changed his mind since that interview!

The weird thing is, I never really saw any interest from Andrea towards Shane until....that moment in the car. I didn't think she was interested in Shane, nor he in her (well, we all know where Shane's heart was). But something was sparked when they were out shooting targets, and she suddenly looked at him differently. He, of course, was still hung up on Lori but an opportunity presented itself so he took it.

I think that if Carol just 'pulled an Andrea' and made an overt pass, Daryl might actually recoil and pull away at first because he'd be embarrassed, or because he and Carol have become close friends and he'd be afraid of ruining that. And in some strange way he might not make a pass at Carol because he respects her and cares about her feelings.

So they'd have to get over themselves long enough to get anything done. They have to be put into a situation that gets them alone and away from the gang (like the Shane and Andrea set-up) so they can kind of see where things go, or see if things are not meant to go anywhere.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

I love season 2 the best. Season 3 So chaotic...the writers feel as though they have to top the previous season by implementing all sorts of crazy story lines. Is this the way it's gonna be season 4?

Absolutely no clue. I feel like all the 3 seasons so far have had very different feels to them.

No idea which way they'll go with this next one.

 

[elgerber]

Carol jokingly asked Daryl if he wanted to hook up, or something like that once already, he got embarrassed

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

As for Carol and Daryl - yes, there has been build-up and a kind of 'will they or won't they' tension for a while, but I'm not sure IF they will hook up. I don't picture Carol lasting too much longer on the show, for some reason. Sometimes they flirt (she flirts more with him than he does with her, I think) and sometimes there is more of a motherly vibe from her. Sometimes they just seem like unlikely pals. Let's face it - in the real world, that is a pairing that probably would not happen because they seem to be a mismatch. In the zombie world, people are forced together and end up bonding under bizarre circumstances and things may spring from that.


So they'd have to get over themselves long enough to get anything done. They have to be put into a situation that gets them alone and away from the gang (like the Shane and Andrea set-up) so they can kind of see where things go, or see if things are not meant to go anywhere.

I am pretty sure that the character of Daryl never had a serious gf. Who knows, maybe he never even had a gf. He didn't have a normal childhood. I am not sure how old he is supposed to be right now.

I agree that Carol or another girl will have to make the first move.

I think some of your comments about him being sensitive to Carol's feelings is probably a major reason he has so many fangirls.

He is bad *** and sensitive.

Carol jokingly asked Daryl if he wanted to hook up, or something like that once already, he got embarrassed

Yeah. I am not sure he would even know what to do. But I think he and Carol could work well together, they both have similar abusive pasts so they know where the other came from.

 

[elgerber]

I am pretty sure that the character of Daryl never had a serious gf. Who knows, maybe he never even had a gf. He didn't have a normal childhood. I am not sure how old he is supposed to be right now.

I agree that Carol or another girl will have to make the first move.

I think some of your comments about him being sensitive to Carol's feelings is probably a major reason he has so many fangirls.

He is bad *** and sensitive.



Yeah. I am not sure he would even know what to do. But I think he and Carol could work well together, they both have similar abusive pasts so they know where the other came from.

I agree, it would be a very awkward relationship, and probably frustrating at times, but I bet very sweet.

 

[Sherry E]

Carol jokingly asked Daryl if he wanted to hook up, or something like that once already, he got embarrassed

Yes! I remember it well. She made the comment (I didn't know if it was DIS-appropriate so I didn't quote it). He got embarrassed. He started to climb down the ladder. She made another comment. He looked at her and snickered. She laughed. That was the end of it.

At the end of that little exchange, I wondered if that was how the writers were addressing the 'will they or won't they' tension the viewers had picked up on. I wondered if we were supposed to come to the conclusion that Carol and Daryl are just pals who can crack jokes like that with each other and flirt a bit, but that it won't go anywhere. Or, it could have been something to sort of break the ice and let Daryl know that Carol was receptive...if he ever decided he was interested.

Rick and Michonne will have to get over themselves too, for anything to happen. They are both so intense and serious. At least Carol is cracking some jokes, and Daryl throws out the one-liners here and there.

I can see the Rick and Michonne 'romance' (if it ever happens) also being sparked by something along the lines of how Shane and Andrea hooked up - where they are trying to outdo each other, or gain the upper hand in an argument or something, and the competition erupts into fiery passion!

 

[micknpluto]

I don't know what that was between Andrea and Shane in the car. I think it was a one time deal. Even after it happened I didn't see any interest towards Shane from Andrea.

 

[elgerber]

I don't know what that was between Andrea and Shane in the car. I think it was a one time deal. Even after it happened I didn't see any interest towards Shane from Andrea.

I agree. It was a heat of the moment thing, they were both very hyped up and it was purely physical. I don't think there were any emotions involved.

 

[Sherry E]

I am pretty sure that the character of Daryl never had a serious gf. Who knows, maybe he never even had a gf. He didn't have a normal childhood. I am not sure how old he is supposed to be right now.

I agree that Carol or another girl will have to make the first move.

I think some of your comments about him being sensitive to Carol's feelings is probably a major reason he has so many fangirls.

He is bad *** and sensitive.



Yeah. I am not sure he would even know what to do. But I think he and Carol could work well together, they both have similar abusive pasts so they know where the other came from.

He sure does have a lot of fangirls, doesn't he? I don't think I ever realized it until fairly recently.

I think the abusive past connection is a major thing to bond Carol and Daryl, other than the whole zombie apocalypse thing. But you're right - he may not even know what to do if put in the situation. We don't know that he has any game, really. Carol might have to lead!

 

[elgerber]

He sure does have a lot of fangirls, doesn't he? I don't think I ever realized it until fairly recently.

I think the abusive past connection is a major thing to bond Carol and Daryl, other than the whole zombie apocalypse thing. But you're right - he may not even know what to do if put in the situation. We don't know that he has any game, really. Carol might have to lead!

She probably doesn't have much game either, I'm sure she had to be very submissive with that pig she was married to, and I would guess they got married fairly young. I just want to see them show some emotion toward each other, it's very obvious it's there!!!!