The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Lorana]

VGF1 still had FWs available weeks 48 through 52 in early 2021 when we debated whether to get another FW.

What I’d be on the watch for in a couple years time is if they’ll pull the shenanigans here that they did at SSR with treehouses, and raise VGF1 studios To lower VGF2 studios, or vice-versa. (Note, they can’t do that - VGF1 and VGF2 are separately deeded units and their point totals for the year cannot increase. That, however, did not stop DVC from illegally raising THVs to lower 2BRs).

 

[Bjaiken77]

Do you think maybe we get a Friday announcement? On something?

 

[DVChris]

Do you think maybe we get a Friday announcement? On something?

I spoke with a CM this week and they hinted that GF2 would not be announced in the next week. I inferred that it would be much longer (since it seemed like they knew when but couldn't tell me) so my guess now is when Disney announces the next round of incentives after 3/2 - - so after the BLT promo ends.

 

[nuhusky123]

I spoke with a CM this week and they hinted that GF2 would not be announced in the next week. I inferred that it would be much longer (since it seemed like they knew when but couldn't tell me) so my guess now is when Disney announces the next round of incentives after 3/2 - - so after the BLT promo ends.

At this point I want them to delay until annual passes are back. So let this sit

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

I spoke with a CM this week and they hinted that GF2 would not be announced in the next week. I inferred that it would be much longer (since it seemed like they knew when but couldn't tell me) so my guess now is when Disney announces the next round of incentives after 3/2 - - so after the BLT promo ends.

Which leaves me to believe the VGF2 price will be the same if not lower.

 

[DVChris]

Which leaves me to believe the VGF2 price will be the same if not lower.

Same if not lower than RIV? Or the current VG1 of $255?
My guess is that the base will stay at $255 and they will have incentives from there.

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

Same if not lower than RIV? Or the current VG1 of $255?
My guess is that the base will stay at $255 and they will have incentives from there.

I think they will keep the base price of $255 the same, and just play with incentives. I'm predicting the discount will be the same if not better than BLTs promotion ($48+pp), along with a new RIV promotion that prices it equally.

 

[CarolMN]

I think they will keep the base price of $255 the same, and just play with incentives. I'm predicting the discount will be the same if not better than BLTs promotion ($48+pp), along with a new RIV promotion that prices it equally.

That would be disappointing to those of us who would like an add-on contract of less than 100 points. I'm hoping the price will be much less than the current $255 and a lot closer to to the Riviera's $207.

 

[Bjaiken77]

That would be disappointing to those of us who would like an add-on contract of less than 100 points. I'm hoping the price will be much less than the current $255 and a lot closer to to the Riviera's $207.

I find that unfortunate as well. I’d prefer a low base price. However, if the incentives are similar to BLT (a good price break at 200 points), I’ll still likely do it. I’m just waiting on those numbers.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I think they will keep the base price of $255 the same, and just play with incentives. I'm predicting the discount will be the same if not better than BLTs promotion ($48+pp), along with a new RIV promotion that prices it equally.

I am thinking this is the path they will take as well.

 

[Paul Stupin]

I think they will keep the base price of $255 the same, and just play with incentives. I'm predicting the discount will be the same if not better than BLTs promotion ($48+pp), along with a new RIV promotion that prices it equally.

Hadn‘t thought of that possibility, but in that case the incentive for new buyers of 150 point contracts might not get the price low enough to ignite sales. I’m still thinking the base price will be equivalent to Riviera’s. Am worried, though. What will we all have to debate when the price is finally announced??

 

[smmora]

Hadn‘t thought of that possibility, but in that case the incentive for new buyers of 150 point contracts might not get the price low enough to ignite sales. I’m still thinking the base price will be equivalent to Riviera’s. Am worried, though. What will we all have to debate when the price is finally announced??

DLT pricing and point chart

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

Hadn‘t thought of that possibility, but in that case the incentive for new buyers of 150 point contracts might not get the price low enough to ignite sales. I’m still thinking the base price will be equivalent to Riviera’s.

$255 minus $65pp is a lot easier to sell than $207 minus $17pp. But it would insinuate that VGF is superior to RIV.

What will we all have to debate when the price is finally announced??

That's easy! DLT's starting price and whether Disney will sell Aulani!

 

[Paul Stupin]

$255 minus $65pp is a lot easier to sell than $207 minus $17pp. But it would insinuate that VGF is superior to RIV.



That's easy! DLT's starting price and whether Disney will sell Aulani!

$65 off seems like it would apply more to large point purchases, but who knows! And you’re right, DLT can keep us going for a good year or two! And, yeah, that whole selling Aulani topic is always lurking around somewhere.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

DLT pricing and point chart

Hopefully after VGF comes out with a price the crazy expectations on DHV pricing will subside.

 

[CarolynFH]

VGF1 still had FWs available weeks 48 through 52 in early 2021 when we debated whether to get another FW.

What I’d be on the watch for in a couple years time is if they’ll pull the shenanigans here that they did at SSR with treehouses, and raise VGF1 studios To lower VGF2 studios, or vice-versa. (Note, they can’t do that - VGF1 and VGF2 are separately deeded units and their point totals for the year cannot increase. That, however, did not stop DVC from illegally raising THVs to lower 2BRs).

Knowing how many owners analyze every new point chart in such depth now, they might try it, but I’m not sure they’d get away with it like they did with SSR.

 

[Sandisw]

$255 minus $65pp is a lot easier to sell than $207 minus $17pp. But it would insinuate that VGF is superior to RIV.



That's easy! DLT's starting price and whether Disney will sell Aulani!

Any big difference in price would make it much harder to sell because they just want to sell and want both products to be equally great.

Plus every resort has its pluses and VGF being superior to RIV is subjective.

That is not something a sales person is going to want to have to try and explain.

I really hope we see similar pricing.

 

[Nabas]

Any big difference in price would make it much harder to sell because they just want to sell and want both products to be equally great.

Plus every resort has its pluses and VGF being superior to RIV is subjective.

That is not something a sales person is going to want to have to try and explain.

I really hope we see similar pricing.

Based on previous offerings, I suspect Guides are going to want to sell VGF2 and RIV as equally wonderful. One gets you on the Monorail to the Magic Kingdom and Epcot. The other gets you on the Skyliner to DHS an Epcot. (And Disney really has been pushing the Skyliner.)

VGF is at the flagship resort (for now). RIV is the newest resort.

As we've seen on these threads, there's definitely a group of existing DVC members who think RIV is better than VGF.

Offering them at the same price, at least initially, makes a great deal of sense.

 

[Sandisw]

Based on previous offerings, I suspect Guides are going to want to sell VGF2 and RIV as equally wonderful. One gets you on the Monorail to the Magic Kingdom and Epcot. The other gets you on the Skyliner to DHS an Epcot. (And Disney really has been pushing the Skyliner.)

VGF is at the flagship resort (for now). RIV is the newest resort.

As we've seen on these threads, there's definitely a group of existing DVC members who think RIV is better than VGF.

Offering them at the same price, at least initially, makes a great deal of sense.

And that was the experience I had this week with the person at the desk at RIV. Promoting both to me as unique and that each will offer something wonderful!

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Any big difference in price would make it much harder to sell because they just want to sell and want both products to be equally great.

Plus every resort has its pluses and VGF being superior to RIV is subjective.

That is not something a sales person is going to want to have to try and explain.

I really hope we see similar pricing.

All the sales person has to mention ( and they should) is VGF2 comes with no restrictions ( if you want to make all else equal). That right there makes VGF2 a more superior product.