The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Jwaire]

When it announced VGF2, Disney did not seem particularly concerned with the headaches VGF2 creates for existing VGF1 owners. The point charge reenforces this.

As we've seen the last few years with the point chart debacles, they don't seem to put much thought into some of their decisions. If this becomes a problem for VGF1 owners, can they reclassify the regular studios and only offer 1 bedrooms and 2 bedrooms in the original building?

I know they can reallocate points to different room categories. So, they could do what I was suggesting earlier (resort studios become less points) in point chart 2024. I'm not sure in the history of DVC they've ever did anything as dramatic as reclassifying a room category. However, they have done small things like creating preferred rooms at Saratoga Springs five or six years ago.

 

[SusieQ93]

Am I the only one seriously considering ditching any plans to buy VGF2 in favor of BLT?
If I didn't have points transferred in and vacations booked with my VGF contract, I think I would sell now before the announcement and buy BLT!

The new BLT incentives are just for current owners looking to add on right? Or can new owners get that deal too?

 

[DKZB]

The new BLT incentives are just for current owners looking to add on right? Or can new owners get that deal too?

There are different incentives for current owners and new members but they are both pretty good...

https://dvcfan.com/2022/02/03/significant-new-bay-lake-tower-dvc-incentives-announced/

 

[BWV Dreamin]

So another angle DVC could be looking at regarding VGF2 pricing. Piggybacking off of what they just did with BLT, offer VGF2 at $255/pt (current price posted) but offer a very large incentive to bring the PPP down near or just above Riviera. And only offer it for a specified time (like they are with BLT ending in March). That would still keep small point add-ons (less than 150 pts) at $255/pt, but offer the promo to compete with Aulani and Riviera.

I have a hunch pricing will be released in March right after all of the other promos end.

 

[awatt]

So another angle DVC could be looking at regarding VGF2 pricing. Piggybacking off of what they just did with BLT, offer VGF2 at $255/pt (current price posted) but offer a very large incentive to bring the PPP down near or just above Riviera. And only offer it for a specified time (like they are with BLT ending in March). That would still keep small point add-ons (less than 150 pts) at $255/pt, but offer the promo to compete with Aulani and Riviera.

I have a hunch pricing will be released in March right after all of the other promos end.

I think you may be right but I hope not.

Want a small add on. If it comes in at $255 direct, I will go resale route.

 

[RichVIII]

I talked to my guide yesterday and I joked that everything leaks out from Disney...except this. She said, they don't tell us until they absolutely have to do it. She, like others, based on the time they become available said it should be "soon." I guess it is a double edged sword for guides, you have a reason to talk to your folks but you have no information. She certainly was making sure I didn't want RIV.

 

[Jwaire]

I talked to my guide yesterday and I joked that everything leaks out from Disney...except this. She said, they don't tell us until they absolutely have to do it. She, like others, based on the time they become available said it should be "soon." I guess it is a double edged sword for guides, you have a reason to talk to your folks but you have no information. She certainly was making sure I didn't want RIV.

Yeah my guide didn't even know they had already announced the resort studios would be available for booking this summer. He said the Internet usually knows before they are told.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Am I the only one seriously considering ditching any plans to buy VGF2 in favor of BLT?
If I didn't have points transferred in and vacations booked with my VGF contract, I think I would sell now before the announcement and buy BLT!

If you like 1 & 2 BRs, then yes, BLT is now king out the monorail resorts. I feel bad for VGF1 owners that now must compete at the 11 month window with this influx of studios.

 

[Jwaire]

If you like 1 & 2 BRs, then yes, BLT is now king out the monorail resorts. I feel bad for VGF1 owners that now must compete at the 11 month window with this influx of studios.

And BLT is scheduled for a full refurb in 2023. I can't wait to see the design. I'm hoping it's Mary Blair inspired like the recently refreshed lobby.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

And BLT is scheduled for a full refurb in 2023. I can't wait to see the design. I'm hoping it's Mary Blair inspired like the recently refreshed lobby.

I’m excited too. Murphy beds and brand new everything that comes with a hard refurb? Maybe even some subtle incredibles theming? I think it will be nicer than Riviera rooms. All at the doorsteps of MK!! Can’t wait.

 

[Sandisw]

I think that's a real concern too especially considering the ability to bank and borrow. You're going to have people who skip a year, bank their points and decide to upgrade the next year. And there's only something like 47 dedicated 2- bedrooms and 47 lock offs. I think it's going to be like Copper Creek studios all over again except with 1 and 2 bedrooms (after the new addition sells out). This isn't like if they added to Polynesian, where you bought in knowing there's no other room types. GFV1 owners didn't expect an expansion some 9 years later.

They should have made the resort studios a few points lower per night to entice people to book them instead.

This is our current plan…every other year trips in December in a 1 or 2 bedroom.

 

[Jwaire]

I’m excited too. Murphy beds and brand new everything that comes with a hard refurb? Maybe even some subtle incredibles theming? I think it will be nicer than Riviera rooms. All at the doorsteps of MK!! Can’t wait.

By Incredibles you meant Monorail and Space Mountain.

 

[DisneyMom_3]

I have a hunch pricing will be released in March right after all of the other promos end.

I’m not sure I can wait another month!
I was hoping I could get a new contract as a Christmas present, then I thought maybe Valentine’s Day. I’m not sure what leverage I’m going to have on my hubby in March (Mother’s Day in May is way too far away!)

 

[KTownRaider]

I’m not sure I can wait another month!

I hear you. Hearing the guides tell us info is coming 'soon' is of little help. I recall back in November, some on this board were speculating we'd hear surprise announcement on Black Friday!

It's not much, but I'm trying my best to focus on the silver lining that each day that sales do not start is one less day I'll pay in my eventual prorated VGF2 2022 dues...

 

[DisneyMom_3]

It's not much, but I'm trying my best to focus on the silver lining that each day that sales do not start is one less day I'll pay in my eventual prorated VGF2 2022 dues...

Thanks, Pollyanna! I needed that silver lining!

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I hear you. Hearing the guides tell us info is coming 'soon' is of little help. I recall back in November, some on this board were speculating we'd hear surprise announcement on Black Friday!

It's not much, but I'm trying my best to focus on the silver lining that each day that sales do not start is one less day I'll pay in my eventual prorated VGF2 2022 dues...

DLT! Stick to the plan!

 

[KTownRaider]

DLT! Stick to the plan!

Plans are subject to change

 

[Bjaiken77]

This is one of the things that is exhausting for me in my interactions with Disney: We usually aren’t even close on our definition of what “soon” means?

 

[Redheadprincess]

along those lines, I fear that most contracts will be 100pts or less. That means more contract owners and mostly studio people.

Direct owners adding can do 100 pts, but new owners will have to purchase 150pt minimums.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Not to kill you all with more anticipation but.....

Looks like half of the proposed resort studios at the new Big Pine Key building has been declared to the Comptroller, "paving the way for sales to begin soon...."

https://dvcnews.com/resorts/grand-f...oridian-units-declared-into-condo-association