The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Lorana]

For certain? In a traditional timeshare I'd believe that would be the case but DVC remains a point based system that sells a contract with a guaranteed reservation for a particular week every year for certain size unit. The only thing I've seen outlined is that they are restricted to selling no more than 35% of reservations for any room type for any week. They don't have to have the deed assigned to a unit with that type of accommodation I don't believe.

I have 3 FWs/GWs at CCV in a Tub Studio. We picked tub to have the chance at the alternate studio layouts, but have never gotten the room request - it makes me regret not getting a Walk-In Shower Studio instead, since I actually prefer those to tubs! But that aside, all of my FWs guarantee a week in a tub studio. I just looked up my deeded contracts and none of them include a tub studio in the units I’m actually deeded to (Unit 5C for one and Unit 21C for two of them).

 

[Sandisw]

I have 3 FWs/GWs at CCV in a Tub Studio. We picked tub to have the chance at the alternate studio layouts, but have never gotten the room request - it makes me regret not getting a Walk-In Shower Studio instead, since I actually prefer those to tubs! But that aside, all of my FWs guarantee a week in a tub studio. I just looked up my deeded contracts and none of them include a tub studio in the units I’m actually deeded to (Unit 5C for one and Unit 21C for two of them).

Thanks for sharing and it is good to have confirmation that my interpretation of the rules was not correct. I am going to amend all of my posts to reflect this!!!

 

[Sandisw]

So, I was looking at the 2022 chart for the resort studio for the beginning of December and it is 5 points less than in 2023. Now I am wondering if I should get a FW even though I won't ever use it if they offer a price discount at 125 points. With the premium, I'd have to get 137..more than I was going to do, but maybe???

Do you think the 2022 chart is what they will use for these rooms?

 

[Lorana]

So, I was looking at the 2022 chart for the resort studio for the beginning of December and it is 5 points less than in 2023. Now I am wondering if I should get a FW even though I won't ever use it if they offer a price discount at 125 points. With the premium, I'd have to get 137..more than I was going to do, but maybe???

Do you think the 2022 chart is what they will use for these rooms?

I would assume they would, at least for last resorts the point chart for the year the resort went on sale was the basis for the FW cost (weekly cost +10%).

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

So, I was looking at the 2022 chart for the resort studio for the beginning of December and it is 5 points less than in 2023. Now I am wondering if I should get a FW even though I won't ever use it if they offer a price discount at 125 points. With the premium, I'd have to get 137..more than I was going to do, but maybe???

Do you think the 2022 chart is what they will use for these rooms?

As I understood the fixed weeks were calculated as some sort of average over the life of the contract plus the premium so I'd think it will probably take into account the increase from the start since they already have it planned for 2023. We might even get some idea if they have any other planned increases coming up. They do surprise at times though.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I have 3 FWs/GWs at CCV in a Tub Studio. We picked tub to have the chance at the alternate studio layouts, but have never gotten the room request - it makes me regret not getting a Walk-In Shower Studio instead, since I actually prefer those to tubs! But that aside, all of my FWs guarantee a week in a tub studio. I just looked up my deeded contracts and none of them include a tub studio in the units I’m actually deeded to (Unit 5C for one and Unit 21C for two of them).

Thanks for looking that up! My supposition remains that it's because DVC is a point based system that now added a contract option with a guaranteed reservation. It still doesn't matter where the points are deeded just like any other owner can book any unit no matter where their contract is deeded. Plus that reservation isn't fixed in stone and can be cancelled with no penalty.

And someday I'm sure you'll get that alternate studio although I'm still waiting for my lakeview request at BRV to be met some year.

 

[Sandisw]

As I understood the fixed weeks were calculated as some sort of average over the life of the contract plus the premium so I'd think it will probably take into account the increase from the start since they already have it planned for 2023. We might even get some idea if they have any other planned increases coming up. They do surprise at times though.

Except Most here have posted it was calculated on the points chart of the year of sale.

That is why many who own have seen the premium paid wiped out

Hopefully it will be the same for VGF., which means 2022 chart. If it is and there is an incentive at 125, we may consider.

If it’s the 2023 chart then it is less likely for us since we know we won’t ever use it. .

 

[DL1WDW2]

Have all the DVC points for the Riviera been released into the system?
I was wondering if a fixed guaranteed week was still available for this location.
Otherwise would consider for GFV2… but they are also limited, upon release , correct ?

 

[Sandisw]

Have all the DVC points for the Riviera been released into the system?
I was wondering if a fixed guaranteed week was still available for this location.
Otherwise would consider for GFV2… but they are also limited, upon release , correct ?

I think. about 50% has been declared at this point.

Bur, not sure if there are any rooms sizes or view that is sold out yet.

Total FW sold can not be more than 35% of that room size for the resort per use day.

Which now brings me to another wonder. If the points don’t have to be deeded to the room size, then I wonder if I can buy a week in a deluxe studio using the points required when it first opened??

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Have all the DVC points for the Riviera been released into the system?
I was wondering if a fixed guaranteed week was still available for this location.
Otherwise would consider for GFV2… but they are also limited, upon release , correct ?

They will definitely sell you a fixed week at either property. No room type-week combo has ever sold out for a fixed week at any of the resorts that offer them.

 

[Robert Stoddart]

They will definitely sell you a fixed week at either property. No room type-week combo has ever sold out for a fixed week at any of the resorts that offer them.

Week 52 studios at Riviera are sold out, at least according to our guide.

 

[EYL]

Week 52 studios at Riviera are sold out, at least according to our guide.

Same for a Riviera Standard Studio for the typical week of Thanksgiving... I think it was week 48...?

 

[DonMacGregor]

They will definitely sell you a fixed week at either property. No room type-week combo has ever sold out for a fixed week at any of the resorts that offer them.

I learned long ago that "ever" and "never" are two very dangerous words to use around here...

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Week 52 studios at Riviera are sold out, at least according to our guide.

look at that! Presumably more will come with the next points declaration.

 

[Sandisw]

look at that! Presumably more will come with the next points declaration.

They can’t sell more than 35% for any given day but I don’t know if they are required to do that.

 

[Robert Stoddart]

They can’t sell more than 35% for any given day but I don’t know if they are required to do that.

It makes sense that more would be released once they declare more points. I asked that specifically though and the answer was "once they are gone, they are gone". We shall see.

 

[EYL]

look at that! Presumably more will come with the next points declaration.

When I was selecting my GW and encountered weeks that were sold out, I asked about the next declaration. My guide told me that all GW's are "declared" at RIV so what's gone is gone. They cap it at 35%, and I was told that RIV Standard Studios have room for 3 GW per week; Preferred have 9.

 

[Robert Stoddart]

When I was selecting my GW and encountered weeks that were sold out, I asked about the next declaration. My guide told me that all GW's are "declared" at RIV so what's gone is gone. They cap it at 35%, and I was told that RIV Standard Studios have room for 3 GW per week; Preferred have 9.

That aligns with what I've been told. Good to know.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

Except Most here have posted it was calculated on the points chart of the year of sale.

That is why many who own have seen the premium paid wiped out

Hopefully it will be the same for VGF., which means 2022 chart. If it is and there is an incentive at 125, we may consider.

If it’s the 2023 chart then it is less likely for us since we know we won’t ever use it. .

I haven't noticed many posts about calculations recently.

I recall most posts about it back when they first were offered as explaining the calculations over the years. Since they had done very little adjusting at the time they started offering with Aulani, really nothing much beyond weekends/weekdays, it would mean the calculation would have come out as fairly similar to the week. But you could see the effect of calculating over the years during the weeks that involved the holidays that are not fixed to a week and day within a week. However now they've started shifting points across seasons and have added the two seasons.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

It makes sense that more would be released once they declare more points. I asked that specifically though and the answer was "once they are gone, they are gone". We shall see.

When I was selecting my GW and encountered weeks that were sold out, I asked about the next declaration. My guide told me that all GW's are "declared" at RIV so what's gone is gone. They cap it at 35%, and I was told that RIV Standard Studios have room for 3 GW per week; Preferred have 9.

Perhaps you both have the same guide!

This sort of thing was gone thru with CCV. All sold. And then a declaration was done and there were more available.

Very few guides have a good understanding of fixed weeks. I don't believe it would be possible to have the resort 50% declared and "all fixed weeks declared". Fixed weeks actually aren't a declaration anyway - just a sales limitation -and what we saw with CCV was that they had to limit the number of weeks sold based to what had been declared.

Have all the DVC points for the Riviera been released into the system?
I was wondering if a fixed guaranteed week was still available for this location.
Otherwise would consider for GFV2… but they are also limited, upon release , correct ?

DVC has never come close to selling out all fixed weeks that they could for the year. The ones they've come closest to are later in the year - the early December/late December weeks for a few categories. So the answer to your question somewhat depends on what week you might be interested in, what view, and perhaps when you are looking to buy if it follows CCV where declarations did make a difference in more fixed weeks being available for sale.