The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Frugal Fairy Tales]

So what if when VGF2 goes on sale, Disney increases RIV prices up closer to whatever the VGF2 sale price will be, instead of lowering the initial VGF2 price to closer to the current RIV price? Can they increase RIV at anytime even though it just went up to $207?

 

[nuhusky123]

So what if when VGF2 goes on sale, Disney increases RIV prices up closer to whatever the VGF2 sale price will be, instead of lowering the initial VGF2 price to closer to the current RIV price? Can they increase RIV at anytime even though it just went up to $207?

They can price riv at whatever price point they want without notice

and sure they could price riv at $300. Doesn’t mean they will sell anything though

 

[Frugal Fairy Tales]

BC is $265 direct (which is insane) so why wouldn't they increase the pricing for the other resorts as well by the end of this month, and then sell VGF2 and RIV lower than the higher pricing of all the other "sold out" resorts?

 

[tjkraz]

BC is $265 direct (which is insane) so why wouldn't they increase the pricing for the other resorts as well by the end of this month, and then sell VGF2 and RIV lower than the higher pricing of all the other "sold out" resorts?

Older resorts are priced at what the market will bear. It's often a function of supply and demand. DVC gets back a trickle of points from all resorts via ROFR and foreclosures. Most of the older properties already are priced higher. They aren't going to raise the likes of Hilton Head and Vero to $220 each just to make Riviera and VGF look good. And they also aren't going to lose many RIV/VGF sales to people who insist on buying VB or HHI at lower prices.

 

[Frugal Fairy Tales]

I still think some of the direct pricing for some of the "sold out" resorts at WDW seem out of alignment compared with the others and we'll likely see price increases for those. It would also allow Disney not to have to come in as low with VGF2. I can't see them selling this for near Riviera's current $207.

 

[nuhusky123]

I’m still going off the video promoting vgf on dvc. Typically ranges in Price from $31,000-$55,000

ignore everything other than $31,000 as this sets the floor

if the minimum buy in is 150 point for new members and dvc sell gfv for $207

150*207=$31,050

if gfv is more than $207 dvc would not promote the typical buy in at $31,000

 

[Nabas]

I’m still going off the video promoting vgf on dvc. Typically ranges in Price from $31,000-$55,000

ignore everything other than $31,000 as this sets the floor

if the minimum buy in is 150 point for new members and dvc sell gfv for $207

150*207=$31,050

if gfv is more than $207 dvc would not promote the typical buy in at $31,000

I recall seeing this discussed, although I don't recall on which thread.

The general consensus seemed to be that pricing applied to the generic DVC product. In other words, it was not specific to VGF. This means that RIV would be lumped into this pricing.

 

[Sandisw]

So what if when VGF2 goes on sale, Disney increases RIV prices up closer to whatever the VGF2 sale price will be, instead of lowering the initial VGF2 price to closer to the current RIV price? Can they increase RIV at anytime even though it just went up to $207?

They just raised RIV to $207. If the point was to raise it higher to make it closer to VGF, they would have done so.

But they can raise prices every day if they wanted. I just think the raise they just did is what will stay for the time being and why many think VGF will be close to that..if not the same.

 

[Einstein509]

SSR info looks correct to me.



Riviera rooms are cheaper than Poly and GF. IMO, Skyliner access to Epcot and HS is more efficient than monorail to MK/EP.

Can't walk to Epcot and HS from Riviera. You can walk to MK from VGF.

 

[nuhusky123]

I recall seeing this discussed, although I don't recall on which thread.

The general consensus seemed to be that pricing applied to the generic DVC product. In other words, it was not specific to VGF. This means that RIV would be lumped into this pricing.

True but it’s on the gfv video. any normal person would then assume it’s specific to gfv especially the avg buyer less educated on dvc world

Not having a minimum buy in at the $31k price point could be considered deceptive advertising and run afoul of legal consequences

 

[Sandisw]

Can't walk to Epcot and HS from Riviera. You can walk to MK from VGF.

True, but it is only a benefit for those groups who actually want to walk to the MK.

Overall, I think both resorts ofter great benefits. It is why they are my top two! Though I much prefer RIV.

 

[nuhusky123]

True, but it is only a benefit for those groups who actually want to walk to the MK.

Overall, I think both resorts ofter great benefits. It is why they are my top two! Though I much prefer RIV.

I think I’d love riv, my wife however is terrified of cable cars so that really kills riv for me

 

[nuhusky123]

I do think this is bad timing to put gfv on sale given Ukraine. When Russia invades sanctions will result in increased costs on food, fuel, compounding inflation. Markets didn’t like the us embassy closing in Kiev as it continues to point to invasion, stocks will be taking a beating

it makes me nervous to put $31k into dvc given increasing financial headwinds. Perhaps best to sit on cash

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

I’m still going off the video promoting vgf on dvc. Typically ranges in Price from $31,000-$55,000

ignore everything other than $31,000 as this sets the floor

if the minimum buy in is 150 point for new members and dvc sell gfv for $207

150*207=$31,050

if gfv is more than $207 dvc would not promote the typical buy in at $31,000

And to continue on this logic… if you take the BLT promotion ($48 off pp) and apply it to a price of $255 (GFV) you get $207pp.

 

[nuhusky123]

New Member Discounts - Bay Lake Tower

150-174 points: $14 off per point
175-199 points: $16 off
200-249 points: $26 off
250-299 points: $30 off
300-499 points: $35 off
500-999 points: $40 off
1000+ points: $42 off

new Members must buy 150 points which nets $14 off. You need to help me with the math. you only get to $207 if you buy 1000 points
1000*207=$207,000

im trying to work with you jimmy but not following your logic

how is buying 1000 points $31,000 which is the only way you get to $207

 

[CaptainAmerica]

And to continue on this logic… if you take the BLT promotion ($48 off pp) and apply it to a price of $255 (GFV) you get $207pp.

Not to drift too far off topic, but I don't understand why they don't get super aggressive with an Aulani promotion to sell that resort out. Sell it for $150 direct. I know at least one resale buyer who would take 150 at $150 to get the blue card.

Me. It's me. I would do that.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

New Member Discounts - Bay Lake Tower

150-174 points: $14 off per point
175-199 points: $16 off
200-249 points: $26 off
250-299 points: $30 off
300-499 points: $35 off
500-999 points: $40 off
1000+ points: $42 off

new Members must buy 150 points which nets $14 off. You need to help me with the math. 1000*207=$207,000

im trying to work with you jimmy but not following your logic

Incentives for existing members are better.

 

[nuhusky123]

Incentives for existing members are better.

Yes but dvc won’t sell 2,000,000 points to just existing members


the majority of sales will be to non members

 

[BWV Dreamin]

And to continue on this logic… if you take the BLT promotion ($48 off pp) and apply it to a price of $255 (GFV) you get $207pp.

My point as well about 4 pages back....

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

New Member Discounts - Bay Lake Tower

150-174 points: $14 off per point
175-199 points: $16 off
200-249 points: $26 off
250-299 points: $30 off
300-499 points: $35 off
500-999 points: $40 off
1000+ points: $42 off

new Members must buy 150 points which nets $14 off. You need to help me with the math. you only get to $207 if you buy 1000 points
1000*207=$207,000

im trying to work with you

New Member Discounts - Bay Lake Tower

150-174 points: $14 off per point
175-199 points: $16 off
200-249 points: $26 off
250-299 points: $30 off
300-499 points: $35 off
500-999 points: $40 off
1000+ points: $42 off

new Members must buy 150 points which nets $14 off. You need to help me with the math. you only get to $207 if you buy 1000 points
1000*207=$207,000

im trying to work with you jimmy but not following your logic

how is buying 1000 points $31,000 which is the only way you get to $207

No logic. Just pointing out the coincidence between the BLT promo discount and the math to get to $207 for existing members.