The VGF 2 pricing thread

What will 200 points at VGF2 look like at launch, with incentives included?

  • Same price as Riviera, Same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 34 14.6%
  • Same price as Riviera, higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • Same price as Riviera, lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 74 31.8%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 50 21.5%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 6 2.6%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 39 16.7%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    233
  • Poll closed .
A few have written that VGF2 will start at $255pp or higher.

Who on this forum is ready to say that they will be a buyer at $255pp or higher?
Me - well me at 255 - I was planning on buying more points already before they announced VGF2 - and I want to stay with direct because my existing points are direct and keeping the points the same as far as booking abilities is important to me.
 
Me - well me at 255 - I was planning on buying more points already before they announced VGF2 - and I want to stay with direct because my existing points are direct and keeping the points the same as far as booking abilities is important to me.
Addonitis! :)

You could call them and add on right now. Word is they are still selling if you call. Any reason why you are waiting?
 
It is so interesting to see people who think Disney is into LOWERING their prices.... (especially on their flagship resort !) I wonder if they think Disney will offer annual passes for less than what they were selling them before too. $275 will be the opening price for VGF2, $255 with incentives. BWV dreaming & dvc lover 1970 have it right

Sadly, I agree this will be the price. When VGF 1 opened at 145, I thought that was high, but that price helped to push the others upwards. Direct crossing the 200 per point range defeats the purpose of saving on vacations. I think the reason they are converting DVC 2 into studios only is to justify the high cost and lower points for studios so the sales pitch can be "for only 30,000 ($255 x 120points) you can stay in a studio every year for the next 43 years at VGF and this saves you over x amount of years" Not a bargain in my book
 
I just do not see it selling fast if the price stays at its current price. It doesn't sell fast now at that price. Not sure what would change.
 

Me - well me at 255 - I was planning on buying more points already before they announced VGF2 - and I want to stay with direct because my existing points are direct and keeping the points the same as far as booking abilities is important to me.
I did for these same reasons. Plus the resale prices , including stripped contracts, were just too expensive to wave the direct benefits.
 
Sadly, I agree this will be the price. When VGF 1 opened at 145, I thought that was high, but that price helped to push the others upwards. Direct crossing the 200 per point range defeats the purpose of saving on vacations. I think the reason they are converting DVC 2 into studios only is to justify the high cost and lower points for studios so the sales pitch can be "for only 30,000 ($255 x 120points) you can stay in a studio every year for the next 43 years at VGF and this saves you over x amount of years" Not a bargain in my book
But they are setting the floor for new sales at 150 points. So at $255 it is $38,250. That’s a lot of cash for a minimum purchase.
 
But they are setting the floor for new sales at 150 points. So at $255 it is $38,250. That’s a lot of cash for a minimum purchase.
And new homes have increased their prices $30,000-$40,000 in the last 3 months due to increased wood prices. But people are buying them like hot cakes.
 
But they are setting the floor for new sales at 150 points. So at $255 it is $38,250. That’s a lot of cash for a minimum purchase.
Especially if you just spent $7k to $10k on a vacation at WDW, unless they let you deduct that from your current reservation. Dropping $45K in one year for most families is a big deal.
 
Ummmm no

If 65% of the homeowners had to leave your city for the last year do you think the contractors would still have too much work?

DVC is not the same as other industries. They have had restrictions on various methods of creating interest in DVC. Parks have been at 35% capacity, DL was closed, DCL was closed, no rich foreigners travel to WDW, and you have many members who might have been short and adding on not needing to because of cancelled trips.

So you absolutely need to give a pass.
I agree and really much of COVID time frame for direct sales I’m going to disregard. But the big drop in RIV sales over the past two months has to be a concern to DVC. Park capacity is constantly increasing, unemployment going down, all should lead to an increase in direct RIV sales. Yet May was basically an all time low for RIV direct (and April was also poor). That’s what is hard to figure out.
 
But they are setting the floor for new sales at 150 points. So at $255 it is $38,250. That’s a lot of cash for a minimum purchase.
Especially when that minimum purchase only gets you a week in a standard view studio during the cheapest seasons, based on the current VGF points charts. If VGF2 studios are more points per night, that 150 buy-in won't even get you a week.
 
Especially if you just spent $7k to $10k on a vacation at WDW, unless they let you deduct that from your current reservation. Dropping $45K in one year for most families is a big deal.
The reality is a vast majority of direct DVC buyers finance. Their concern is actually monthly payment/down payment. But the increasing cost still play into this. $255 a point for $150 points $38250. So 10% down $3820 comes out to payments of $471 a month. Then add annual dues on that of about $100 a month and now you are selling a $571 a month payment for the next 10 years to stay in a studio for one week a year. That’s a lot, and that is the majority of Disney’s direct sales.
 
And new homes have increased their prices $30,000-$40,000 in the last 3 months due to increased wood prices. But people are buying them like hot cakes.
Home prices are up mostly due to the fact that I can buy a new home with a 30 year note for 2.5-2.75% interest. So a 30k jump in price although a lot of cash is almost an insignificant increase in monthly payments. And timeshare sales just like home sales are primarily driven by monthly payments. One thing no one is factoring here is the incredible spread Disney makes on financing DVC. If prime rate for Disney is 2% or so, but they still charge new buyers 10.99% they are making 8-9% spread on a loan that is virtually no risk to them because in case of default they have a simple foreclosure process. It is by far in DVCs best interest to sell as many points as they can, as quickly as they can, and get as many to finance as they can.
 
Addonitis! :)

You could call them and add on right now. Word is they are still selling if you call. Any reason why you are waiting?
My UY for VGF is April so I’m in no rush - just in case the initial offer is less than $255…
 
Ours is February, I wonder if they are going to sell 2021 UY points to existing owners, or make them wait for 2022 points.

I think a lot will depend on when its actual opening date will be. Say if it's in Oct then it might get a bit sketchy for any UY's getting 2021 points much like Riviera where it opened in Dec 2019 and Feb UY's had their first allotment of points in Feb 2020. Since at least 1/2 of the UY's will already be in their 2022 UY that is what they will start with and a couple of them might even be in 2022 by the time sales even start.

The points could not be used anywhere until the resort opens or the unit you have ownership in is available for occupancy anyway.
 
I think a lot will depend on when its actual opening date will be. Say if it's in Oct then it might get a bit sketchy for any UY's getting 2021 points much like Riviera where it opened in Dec 2019 and Feb UY's had their first allotment of points in Feb 2020. Since at least 1/2 of the UY's will already be in their 2022 UY that is what they will start with and a couple of them might even be in 2022 by the time sales even start.

The points could not be used anywhere until the resort opens or the unit you have ownership in is available for occupancy anyway.
If we buy anymore at all...... a big if, we would then probably wait till December 2022 or January 2023 to buy. Just the savings on MFs for most of 2022 would be better than most incentives that DVC offers.
 
I own at VGF. I'm curious why you think that VGF1 will be preferred over 2.

room layout -- VGF1 has two shower areas and a kitchenette. I do not see the hotel room having this same configuration given that they are rehabbing the rooms so quickly from hotel to DVC. I could be wrong -- but I don't know how they could possibly gut that whole building and be done that fast.
 



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