Gotcha. I did not/do not understand why you'd phrase it as "I'm just curious why you think teenagers should get the vaccine. When they have literally no risk of dying from covid and you as an old person should be protected because you had the vaccine." Not all of our teenagers have immunity from covid. I'm not saying yours should have to get the vaccine, and I completely understand your perspective on why you don't want him to. But I hope you are aware that many of our teenagers have no immunity, and they and their parents want them to get vaccinated for reasons that have nothing to do with protecting "old" people. It's not an "all teenagers" or "no teenagers" situation.
The comment was in regards to cruising on Disney. The policy as of now is 18 and over. I'm not sure why any vaccinated adult would want the age lowered. To make them feel safer? It really should be up to the parent.
I'm surprised you don't see why. It is for the same exact reason that you are hesitant to give your kid the vaccine. You care about your kids health. You have done your research and you've made a decision for your family to protect them. Your research and viewpoint led you to a conclusion...that the safest thing for your kid is to not take a vaccine at this time.
In the end, it will be the decision of DCL on who they allow on the ship. If non vaccinated are allowed, then it will affect the decision some will make about going on their cruises. If only vaccinated are allowed, then it will affect others that may want to go on the cruise.
The policy right now is for the UK Staycation cruises, and I think the age range may be due to the UK vaccine roll-out. The UK only expects to get to 18+ in June, and I don't believe 12-15 has been approved there yet. I wouldn't be surprised if policy changes once there is broader roll-out and/or with cruises from places where the vaccine is readily available to the under-18s.
Which is a valid concern! In our school district (which is a large, unified K-12 district), spread among students was pretty much non-existent for young elementary schoolers but clearly happened with teenagers. (Unsurprising to anyone who has teenagers... or has been one LOL!) It doesn't even matter if the adults are all vaccinated, if they pass some threshold of positivity based on older kids/teens alone, that then shuts a cruise down. I do understand that many people do not have firsthand knowledge of these things, but as I mentioned previously - my kids' district went back in person in fall, so I'm well-aware of the spread that can happen among the Edge/Vibe age groups. I guess people sincerely do not believe that spread among those age groups happened.
Spread yes. Serious illness and death extremely rare.
You asked why adults on a cruise would care if under-18yo kids were vaccinated. @mevelandry responded that her reasoning was b/c they don't want the cruise shut down. Spread is exactly what shuts a cruise down. It doesn't matter if teens do or do not get seriously ill. If one gets a little sick, tests positive, and everyone they interacted with during Edge or Vibe activities gets tested and even a small number of other positives are found - you end up with enough spread that a cruise can get shut down (depending on the cruise line's threshold). And at that point, it doesn't matter at all if the positives were under 18 or over: all passengers are affected by the cruise ceasing operations and returning to a home port or the like.
In addition to the whole shutting the cruise down perspective...why is it hard for people to believe that some of us don't want our kids to catch Covid...even knowing that serious illness and death are rare.
People were ok with it being 18 and over. Now they want it 12 and over then it will be five over and eventually down to 6 months. The only thing that matters is cruising at all costs.
I thought people were always for all eligible passengers vaccinated and that the eligible age just keeps going down. That is why the age will be changing based on date for some of the Alaska cruise lines.
THIS!
