The unofficial Bed Bug Report

[ReneeA]

Would't you think that getting a room that had been recently cleaned and fumigated would have LESS of a chance of being infested?

I agree with the mods...absolutely no need to create a huge issue over something that Disney is obviously proactive about.

 

[Disuser]

I knew this thread was not going to fly when it was first suggested. A couple of the sponsors on this site have a monetary interest in keeping negative reports silent.
I also suspect a few of the posters here are Disney employees since they have a large amount of posts and seem overly concerned when anything negative is said about Disney World.
However this is not the only site dealing with Disney World and all one has to do is search the web or google for the available information.

 

[safetymom]

This is not the place to discuss why this thread will not be the place to post what rooms have bed bugs.

If you care to discuss bed bugs go right ahead.

If you are going to discuss the motives of posters this thread will be closed.

 

[ajleone]

I knew this thread was not going to fly when it was first suggested. A couple of the sponsors on this site have a monetary interest in keeping negative reports silent.
I also suspect a few of the posters here are Disney employees since they have a large amount of posts and seem overly concerned when anything negative is said about Disney World.
However this is not the only site dealing with Disney World and all one has to do is search the web or google for the available information.

Very well said!

 

[CleveRocks]

I knew this thread was not going to fly when it was first suggested. A couple of the sponsors on this site have a monetary interest in keeping negative reports silent.
I also suspect a few of the posters here are Disney employees since they have a large amount of posts and seem overly concerned when anything negative is said about Disney World.
However this is not the only site dealing with Disney World and all one has to do is search the web or google for the available information.

Once you are around here a little longer (that is, once you have a high post count due to your job as a Walt Disney World cast member assigned to manipulate message boards that influence about 0.5% of your customer base), you'll recognize a few things about DISboards:

1) Many people here are passionate about Disney. Just like fanatical fans of a football team or baseball team will defend the player striking out or the coach making a terribly stupid decision, many fanatical Disney fans truly see only the good and tend to disregard the bad. Just like that fan calling a sports talk radio show isn't an employee of the team, the Disney fan who defends Disney isn't an employee of that company.

2) Once you are around here a little longer, you'll see that the moderators do not stifle or ban or edit or remove complaints about Disney. To insist that they do is just closing your eyes to reality. Look around the Resorts forum or the Theme Park forum or the Transportation forum ... you'll see unfettered complaints about everything Disney has to offer. Just open your eyes.

More about your fantasy about people here being Disney employees. I love DISboards, but we are but a speck on the back of the ear of a flea on the shoulder of a 4th-string Mickey Mouse assigned to a water park. DISboards currently has 191,585 members (most of whom probably aren't very active), and WDW has roughly 35 MILLION guests annually. So all of us here represent 0.5473% of Disney's guests ... that's about one-half of one percent of Disney's annual guests. But there's an even more important statistic ... so far, this thread has had 1,243 views ... so that means that .003% of Disney's annual guests have read this bed bug thread ... three one-THOUSANDTHS of one percent.

Three one-thousandths of one percent of their potential guests have read this thread ... I'm sure Disney woke up all its top people on a Sunday morning to stop this threat to their bottom line.

 

[kaytieeldr]

At least resort names wold be helpful for, if nothing else, it allows/encourages DIS members to be prepared to check the beds more carefully.

Why? If anything, I would think THESE THREADS, not specific resort names, would encourage/allow DISers to check ANY hotel room more carefully.

I'm not sure how doing everything possible to ensure the health and safety of members of the DIS could be considered stirring the pot.

Based on everything I've read, could you please explain how bedbugs are unhealthy or unsafe? Annoying, YES. I wouldn't voluntarily host any.

But they don't carry or cause disease, they don't endanger the mammals off of which they feed... mosquitos carry MUCH more risk, and they're more prevalent.

I knew this thread was not going to fly when it was first suggested. A couple of the sponsors on this site have a monetary interest in keeping negative reports silent. I also suspect a few of the posters here are Disney employees since they have a large amount of posts and seem overly concerned when anything negative is said about Disney World.

Excuse me?


On a different note - I am in the middle of my "turn" spent worrying about bedbugs. I have been worrying about them since midnight, and will continue to worry about them until midnight tonight - so the rest of you can worry about other things for now...

 

[ntsammy5]

On a different note - I am in the middle of my "turn" spent worrying about bedbugs. I have been worrying about them since midnight, and will continue to worry about them until midnight tonight - so the rest of you can worry about other things for now...

I appreciate it!


Personally, I choose not to worry about this at all. I believe that the incidence of bedbugs is statistically insignificant. I have a greater chance of getting hit by a piece of Skylab! And it fell from the sky 30 years ago!

 

[jboysen]

Well, I have a suggestion. If everyone is so concerned with cleanliness, let hotels go back to using chemicals that will disenfect everything and rid the rooms of any such infestation. We can't have it both ways people. Life just doesn't work that way. I'm sure if Disney or any other resort went back to harsher chemicals we'd be having similar threads going on about those and people who can not tolerate chemicals, along with enviormentalists screaming about the enviorment. All we can do is arm ourselves with information and take responsibilty for our own health and check what needs checking. I'm sure Disney dosen't want this problem anymore than we do.

 

[MermaidsMom]

I appreciate it!


Personally, I choose not to worry about this at all. I believe that the incidence of bedbugs is statistically insignificant. I have a greater chance of getting hit by a piece of Skylab! And it fell from the sky 30 years ago!

Ntsammy5, am I to understand you are not taking your turn worrying? What's the deal? Kaytieeldr is busy today and my afternoon and evening tomorrow are spoken for. Fall in line soldier! Skylab is not going to cut it.

 

[BigKids]

Great! I love the use of statistics to make a point.

Let's start from the previous assumption from kaytieeldr 09-08-2008, 04:42 AM;

27,000 rooms x 14 (two weeks) room nights = 378,000 room nights per reporting interval. That equates to less than three ten-thousandths of a percent chance that a given room will have bedbugs - specifically, 0.00026455. Miniscule.

and,

But there's an even more important statistic ... so far, this thread has had 1,243 views ... so that means that .003% of Disney's annual guests have read this bed bug thread ... three one-THOUSANDTHS of one percent.

Three one-thousandths of one percent of their potential guests have read this thread ... I'm sure Disney woke up all its top people on a Sunday morning to stop this threat to their bottom line.

So, with all this numerical evidence around, I am wondering about the leap in logic between jumping from Miniscule to Chaos.

 

[Sammie]

I think everyone realizes no one wants to check into a room with bedbugs but trying to monitor the situation is an exercise in futility, you might as well list every Disney resort and at any given time any room.

A bed bug has no preference for particular resorts and at Disney all resorts have had them at one time or another.

They are a nuisance but they are not dangerous or spread disease. You are just as likely to get them in your home if anyone that travels comes to visit you, or you travel anywhere.

The only way to completely avoid them is never get them in your home, never allow anyone in your home and never leave.

 

[kaytieeldr]

So, with all this numerical evidence around, I am wondering about the leap in logic between jumping from Miniscule to Chaos.

Sigh... nobody except the poster quoted used, or even inferred, "chaos". But let me try anyway.

1 - CleveRocks and kaytieeldr are two different people with two different brains, and who have never met each other.
2 - My statistics are based on number of rooms times room nights.
3 - CleveRocks' statistics are based on the number of views on THIS thread in comparison to the total number of people who visit Disney World each year.

Two entirely different bases, two entirely different sets of criteria, two entirely different results - both miniscule.

 

[BigKids]

It has been discussed by the moderators and we will not be allowing the posting of room numbers where there may have been bed bugs.

This can only create chaos among those visiting resorts. Disney seems to be keeping on top of the situation. If that should change then the issue can be revisited.

It is perfectly alright to discuss bed bugs and how to avoid them.

Hello! I believe there was one comment regarding chaos.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Hello! I believe there was one comment regarding chaos.

1 - Not in EITHER of the posts you quoted
2 - Not anywhere on page two of this thread at all
3 - The poster you quote above is referring to avoiding chaos ON THE DIS, not among any statistics. Specifically, you can see a decision was already made by the Moderators that posting room numbers (i.e. one of the intents of this thread) could create chaos.

 

[BigKids]

Hello! Reference: Page 1 Post #9.

 

[bavaria]

Not to speak for Safetymom, but can you imagine if even a handful of readers appeared at the Front Desk to check in and said 'I don't want room 1234, 4444, 2222, 2343, 4323, 4343, 4878, or 4788 because I read that they have bed bugs'. Imagine the situation if other guests overhead, or the situation the Front Desk would face trying to reassure this guest that the rooms are not infested.

I could also see guests insisting that they don't want the rooms neighbouring these rooms either.

Why not just let WDW handle it as they are handling it? There is a report on the DVC boards about how POR handled a guest who arrived from VB where they had been infested; I think that everything possible was done to mitigate the situation.

What IS important is to advise WDW immediately if you suspect that you may have bed bugs, and not to travel until you are relatively certain that you are bug free (or as best as possible). There is a thread on the Orlando Hotels board here where someone thinks that she had bed bugs (to the extent of tossing her luggage on landing at her home airport, and calling her dry cleaner from the airplane). It isn't clear to me if she ever did advise WDW so that they could fumigate her room. That is exactly how bed bugs are spread - a traveller boards an airplane carrying bugs, and now other passenger's luggage may get infested, not to mention the airplane seats.

 

[BigKids]

Not to speak for Safetymom, but can you imagine if even a handful of readers appeared at the Front Desk to check in and said 'I don't want room 1234, 4444, 2222, 2343, 4323, 4343, 4878, or 4788 because I read that they have bed bugs'. Imagine the situation if other guests overhead, or the situation the Front Desk would face trying to reassure this guest that the rooms are not infested.QUOTE]

Why yes I can. However a decision was made that room numbers will not be discussed within this forum.

I've had enough. Good day.

 

[bavaria]

Hello! Reference: Page 1 Post #9.

It has been discussed by the moderators and we will not be allowing the posting of room numbers where there may have been bed bugs.

This can only create chaos among those visiting resorts. Disney seems to be keeping on top of the situation. If that should change then the issue can be revisited.

It is perfectly alright to discuss bed bugs and how to avoid them.

I believe that you are referring to the post from a moderator? I believe (and again not to speak for her) that she is giving direction to the thread

 

[Belle & Ariel]

Bedbugs are not a matter of being dirty or staying at the value resorts.
Think of all the places your luggage goes. You set it down at the airport waiting to check in. It goes through the conveyors to your destination spot. Maybe TSA sets it on a table to search. It goes on a cart to be loaded, then in the plane. Then it goes on another cart, through a conveyor, and to the luggage carousel. Then, ME, the hotel's luggage cart, and finally to your room. Any one of these spots could have bedbugs left from a prior customer and they just might pick your suitcase.
We are always careful when we get home to unpack our bags and set them by a sunny window or outside. The sun supposedly kills them.

 

[bavaria]

Very true! And my example of airplane seats as well, as an infested traveller takes a seat and the bugs settle in to a new home.

Now, having said that, I travel 300 days a year and have never personally had bed bugs. Do I travel smart? yes. Have I stayed in hotels which had bed bugs? yes. Do I panic and go overboard? no.

I do what I can such as always using a luggage rack or chair for my suitcase, never putting anything on the bed, tossing the bedspread (if there is one, and frankly only WDW hotels are the places I stay which are so outdated as to still have them), and do a cursory check around the room. That's it.

In some airports, especially in Asia, passengers can pay to have their suitcases enrobed in plastic, in an effort to reduce the spread of bugs. Aircraft are also fumigated regularly, which is not done in North America to the same degree or frequency.