The Triathlon thread

As soon as I get a little more organized, I'll put up a quick RR from my tri last weekend. IronGirl Las Vegas. I only did the swim and bike, though, because of a running injury that I am trying to get better.

Being hurt sucks! So sorry:wizard: :wizard: :wizard: ! I would love to read your RR. Did someone else do the run? Hope you feel better soon.

I think I have talked my sis into a century ride in Sept. Ha Ha Ha! Got her on her road bike this morning and did 15 miles.:banana:
 
DH has a 1/2 Ironman next weekend in NC. Full in KY in August.

I remember his first tri--I thought he was going to drown in the pool! LOL He's come a long way, baby!!
 
I suppose part of the reason we write/read race reports is to exchange some info on a particular race...did you like it? Was it safe? Was it organized? Where did you stay and how did that work out? So this RR may be a cautionary tale...though, all in all, I had a great weekend! I suppose the lesson is to make your own fun and not stress about the small stuff.

I was in great company for this trip...heading to Vegas for my friend/teammate Kim's 40th birthday. You gotta love a girl who plans a trip like that for her b-day! Another teammate, Lori, was also going, and we have become closer the last several months as it turns out we are right about the same pace for everything. She's a good friend and training buddy.

Flew to Vegas Thursday with our bikes without incident. K was super organized. We met L at the airport and rented our cars. The race was at the Lake Las Vegas Resort...about 20-30 min. from the Strip. It was desert-y and sort of pretty, in a stark way, out there. The golf course at the resort entrance looked really nice, too. We were staying in a rental house...omg, it was nice!! 3 floors, posh furnishings, a great view of the resort and lake, and a hot tub! At the hotel/casino area, there is a little village that is supposed to be like a little Italian town, with shops and restaurants along cobbled sidewalks...that was a nice place to hang out. We met Kim's other friends who had come to the event from Colorado and Montana and Wisconsin....a total group of about 16 fun, fabulous women! Lots of energy!

Friday was the day to build bikes, test them out, get our packets, check in the bikes. This was the weird day. First, one of the girls who was doing her first tri was testing out the bike she borrowed and her seat post broke! Thank goodness she stood up quickly, or that would have been a nasty impalement! So we detoured to the bike shop and got that all fixed up.

At packet pickup is where the "fun" (NOT) began....we had been wanting to drive the bike course, as we heard from a pro who was going to race that there were some nasty 18% grade hills. Funny, that little tidbit was not in the info given to the rest of the athletes. Nor do I recall that they mentioned that part of the course was on a bike path. Not a big deal, but knowing that would have explained why no maps were any good. The race website had a google interactive map that was lousy. If you tried to enlarge the map to something larger than 2 inches for the 25 mile loop, only the surrounding map would enlarge, but the race loop stayed the same size. So...at packet pickup (after being admonished not to bring any large transition bags into transition--I presume to keep it neat for the TV coverage), we found the head USAT official for the race. He said he had not been provided with course info yet. hmm? So another girl (not in our group) and I went to ask the lady who looked like she was in charge at packet pickup. First she told the girl that "the course is marked, I ran it this morning" (wow...25 mile run...)...then when the girl said she had started following the arrows then they stopped, the lady said "oh, they are still marking it" (***? you just said it was marked.) In our packet, there was a 2 x 3 inch map of the course, in black and white, with no street names indicated. (um, not helpful) How about maybe a poster size map at registration?? (nope....funny...other races often do that.) So I nicely asked if the RD was around to help us answer our questions on the course. The woman responded, "He's out doing HIS JOB!" (um....ok....I know RDs are crazy busy, but they should have some idea these questions will come up and should have someone to answer them.) Then, she looked at me and said, "you don't need to know the course, you're not going to be in front anyway." BEEYOTCH!! I kept my cool...and said, "you don't know that" and walked away. (I mean, I know I'm really not going to be in front, but ***? with the rudeness)

So...we checked in our bikes and decided to go swim. haha! Couldn't find the swim entrance or exit. Turns out the exit was where we guessed it was, behind a gate that was intending to keep non-hotel guests out. Some lady let us in for a quick and very cold practice swim. I didn't worry about checking out anything to do with the run, since I was planning to just swim and bike due to a hip flexor injury.

We had a great dinner the night before, and a glass of wine, and were ready to go.

The other confusing part of the race was that the parking area/start of swim is in one place; the swim exit/transitions is in another; and the run finish is in another place, over a mile from the TA. Then, post-race refreshments and awards were way back by the TA. No wonder the race people were confused...I think they bit off more than they could chew with that configuration. It was difficult for spectators to get around, too, and many of them ended up on the run course in the way of runners.

So finally....it's time! The Sprint race (before the Olympic--another ??? you'd think they would have wanted to get us Olympic course people going to get out of the way of the larger sprint race) started at least 30-40 minutes late. So our start was late, too. ugh. We just lounged on the shore. I did a warmup swim, and luckily the water didn't feel as cold as the day before. It was about 63. brr! It was very cool, once we got going to see the TV helicopters flying around over the swim (mostly for the pro race--we'll see if any AG people get to be on TV). Lori and I were in the last wave...we talked a little about drafting off each other, though it is tough to really plan that with the wave start. Turns out that after the first turn, I saw her. She was having a little trouble in the chop (the wind really picked up), so I hollered at her to "hop on!" to my feet. I think she did....then somehow she got by me and passed me by the finish...good for her! No wetsuit strippers and the run to the TA was at least 1/4 mile long (uphill), so we had all decided to take off our wetsuits before running up the hill, before the water drained out and made the suits hard to get off. I think that was a good decision. I swam about 30 min, which was a PR at that distance (though I hardly ever do Olympic distance races).

I found Lori in T1 and we headed out together on the bikes. That course is hilly! We had to pick our way through some of the slower sprint athletes at the start, but then our course went out into the wild unknown of the desert bike path. Then we found those dang steep hills...whoa!! Did I really mean to keep the 11-23 cassette on? haha! That section of the course was pretty technical, with turns and hills, but actually pretty much fun. I had dropped Lori right when we got to the bike path section. The other thing about the race is that there were some sections on this path with NO volunteers, etc....if someone had gone down out there, it would have been interesting to see what their emergency response might have been. Luckily, I heard of no significant incidents. One of the last sections on the path was a long false flat. Really false. I couldn't tell and was getting convinced my brake was rubbing. But when we got past that, I started flying! So I knew I was ok. I felt super strong on the bike...I think the Lone Star race gave me a lot of confidence because I really haven't had as much quality time on the bike as I would have liked. The rest of the bike was well marked (thanks, finally) and had plenty of volunteers. I rolled into T2 about a minute ahead of Lori. Since I wasn't running, I just wished her well and racked my bike so I could go watch her and Kim finish (Kim had a great race!).

We met up at the finish, got some pizza (bought it, as we didn't realize the post-race food was back by the TA), and got our stuff gathered up. I had to quickly pack my bike, since I had to ship it home, as I was heading to a conference from Vegas. Shipping was no problem (FedEx) btw (I guess I'll believe all the horror stories on ST when it happens to me--which it probably will eventually). The Colorado girls got several podium spots in the sprint race, so we cheered them at the awards over a cold beer! Then we went for a fabulous dinner at Mandalay Bay. The culmination of the evening was when we were chilling in the hot tub that evening...and they shot off fireworks over the Lake and Resort...very cool.

So....not the most organized race I have ever been at....I think I am spoiled (thanks, KJ!) with the events I have done. But we all had a good time. The venue is fabulous...I do hope they are able to iron out some issues and make it better.
 

OK...finally getting around to a RR...

This race was awesome! The usual Endorfun class act.

Got to Galveston on the Thurs. before, so I could get settled in, and hopefully go help out the race crew a little bit. Had some delays leaving home, but finally got in Thursday evening. Was having dinner with my travel buddy, who would have raced if she had signed up in time, and was able to visit with Twilkas, who stopped by the restaurant we were having dinner at.
Did short workouts on Friday, including a bike ride with my friend, and a run on parts of the run course. Realized the Mile 3 marker for the sprint run was more than 0.1 miles from the finish. That would be the ONLY thing I can think of that was not perfect with the sprint race, and since I had scoped it out, I knew not to start my final kick too soon. Helped the race crew that afternoon, handing out the attraction and meal tickets people had ordered for the weekend. Got a super fast hello from TerryinNH, but didn't get to visit with her much the rest of the weekend. Sorry, Terry! Saw SherpaBob scooting around on a golf cart off and on through the weekend.

Race day! Woke up early, and wasn't stressing at all. My friend drove us to the race site (we stayed in a condo off site), and I set up my gear. Thoroughly enjoyed talking to the newbies around me. They bring a special kind of energy to the races, I think. Tried to stretch out my bad hip flexor with my TP ball. Was hoping to have a strong race all around, but worried about the run, since I limped through my warmup run the day before.

Gathered with my teammates on the beach for the pre-race talk. I was in the first women's wave, behind all the men's waves. I found one friend who I know is fast in my AG and wished her well...thought I would be behind her the whole day. We jumped off a dock into the water...it felt cold! I wore a sleeveless wetsuit (first time to race in it). I said bye to KJ and we were off! The sprint swim is easy, as you just sight off the back end of a huge paddleboat. Nevertheless, I manage to pull to the right a bit, but managed to keep self-correcting so as to not swim too much further. I felt strong the whole way, and was happy to make the turn to shore. Was not sure where I came out the water, but was happy to find out later that I was 5th/23 in my AG out of the water, with a 2 min. improvement from last year (over 500m, that is a big improvement)!

T1 wasn't as fast as it should be. KJ is cool and provides wetsuit strippers, so that helps, but I just couldn't run very fast due to my hip. No problems mounting the bike...and away I went! Since it's only 12.5 miles, there is no reason not to go HARD! There was a headwind coming back, but I just kept aero and muscled my way through. Can I just say...I love passing boys on my bike! At the end of the bike, my coach, pro Andrea Fisher came by (she started in a later wave), and shouted, "Awesome!" That made me feel great! Some one else said I had a great position on the bike, and that made me feel good, too! I was 2nd in my AG on the bike.

T2 was speedy, and then the badness started. My leg would not let me run well at all. I struggled. Oh, it hurt, and I could tell I was limping. I had to take a short walk break about 1/2 way through the 3.1 miles and during that time, I saw at least 4 girls in my AG go by (including my friend, so at least I beat her on the bike). That was hard to watch. I just tried my best to gut it out. One of my teammates was super encouraging, so that got me to pick it up for the last mile and I finished stronger than I started.

Crossing the finish line, there is water, cool wet towels, and plenty of food and beer. Endorfun knows how to put on a great post-race party!!
I was pleased with a 7th/23 AG finish, considering the run...though, once I looked at the splits, I had some mixed feelings. I had been in 2nd place at the start of the run (5th in swim, 2nd on bike, and 2nd in both transitions)...so the good thing is that I had strong swim and bike, both faster than last year. The run was slower than last year (no surprise), but overall it was still a PR. So, yay!

Fun times...and Glen Campbell songs still stuck in my head....
 
Hi guys! :wave:

A friend of mine is doing a Sprit-type distance tri in Michigan in July. She's never done one before and we were discussing our fitness goals... I was thinking of attempting the tri at WDW in May of next year so we had a few questions...

I've sent her the link for beginnertriathlete.com. I was wondering if there were some other informative website you could point us too. I guess the biggest questions are how does the whole transition thing work and then what are avg times for the swimming, biking and running. She's not really sure what times to shoot for as a goal in her training.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Stacie
 
Stacie...
Good call on beginnertriathlete.com Trinewbies.com also may have some stuff, though their forum has slowed down over the last few months (nothing like the DIS!)

You may also direct her to some books. A good one for a beginner woman would be one of the books by Sally Edwards (she is the spokesperson for the Danskin series).

As for transitions...it's not hard at all! You would put your bike on the bike rack on race morning (a few races you do it the day before, but generally those are bigger races). Where you rack your bike may be just any open spot, or more often, by age group and gender (there are generally signs at the end of each rack). Next to your bike, in a space about the size of a hand towel, put down a little towel or mat. Starting from the back, put your running shoes, cap/visor, and race belt (if you wear one of those for your number instead of pinning it). In front of those, put your bike shoes (or move your running shoes up to this spot if you don't wear special bike shoes), your helmet, your sunglasses, and any clothes you may be adding to what you swam in. While I'm setting my stuff up, I will also put my swim cap and goggles in front of the bike stuff, but obviously will take those with me to the swim start.

So...you swim....starting in your wave (often by age group). After the swim, you run/jog/walk to your bike, taking off your swim cap and goggles on the way. When you get to your bike, put your cap and goggles down and put on the bike helmet, including clipping the buckle! (instant DQ if you don't have it on and clipped the entire time you are on/with your bike) Put on the shoes you will wear to ride, and your sunglasses. Add any clothes/bike jerseys, etc (I do the swim in what I will wear for the rest of the race). Take your bike off the rack and walk/jog to the mount line at the bike start. You do not ride your bike through the transition area. Then get on and ride!

Coming back to the bike finish...get off the bike before the dismount line outside of the transition area (often the same as the mount line). Walk/jog with your bike back to the same spot where you were racked before. Rack the bike, then you can take your helmet off. Change into your running shoes if you were in bike shoes. Grab your race number (if on a belt), and your cap/visor, and head to the run start. Then you just run, run, run to the finish line!

As for some of the logistics (where is the mount line, where does the bike start/end, where do we come in from the swim, where does the run start?) it is good to look at any provided course maps, and also familiarize yourself with all the ins/outs when you get to the race. I try to get to a race as early as possible (usually when transition opens a couple of hours before), get my bike in place, and walk the ins/outs.

That's a quick summary...let me know if you/your friend have any more specific questions! I'm happy to help!:goodvibes

Remembered you asked about average times. They can be all over the place, and it would depend on her athletic ability, obviously. Probably the best way to judge is to look at the previous result from the race she is doing and gauge from there. Times will vary a bit from course to course due to hills, length, etc.
 
Thanks so much Betsy!!! I will definately pass along this info to her! I have always wondered if you biked and ran in swimsuit all wet and stuff. I guess the answer to that is YES. :)

Thanks again!
Stacie
 
Stacie - What Tri is your friend thinking of doing?
 
Stacie - What Tri is your friend thinking of doing?

Hey Carrie. It's in Michigan (I think) on July 12 I think. It's my boss's wife whom I've gotten to know really well and we chat when she calls. Apparently with all my training she decided she wanted to do something and was talking to friends and family and her aunt suggested this tri up in Michigan. So I'm thinking it's the Lake Michigan one. I'll have to ask her to be sure.
 
Stacie...I don't wear a swimsuit...I wear trishorts and jogbra +/- singlet over it. By the time you get going on the bike, your racing outfit starts to dry. (or, if in TX or FL, you just keep sweating so you're going to be wet anyway) Some people do race in just a swimsuit (I would if my thighs weren't so big). Or, you could do the swim in a swimsuit and pull shorts on over it. At a short race, there is not going to be a place to actually change clothes, and you can't be nude in the transition area, so you pretty much have to start with something you plan to keep on (or change in the portapotty?).
 
I never thought of that Betsy! Hmmm Very interesting. Makes sense. There's no way I could jog in my swimsuit. Not engough ummm support. :goodvibes

Carrie...I lied. It's in Wisconsin. I just found out. July 12.
 
Stacie - I saw that's where teh Lake Michigan was. Darn. On teh 13th, there's one on my side of teh lake. :-( Of course, it's not like you'd be here anyway.

Betsy - Was looking at the tri tops last night and wondering what larger women would do. I know those would not work for me. Thasnk for the info!
 
Carrie....some women with larger tops will wear a more supportive jogbra, as they would running. And then add on a singlet or tritop or jersey over it. Or even 2 jogbras...have seen that before.

Even with the one-piece trisuits (which I have never worn, as it looks like a pain, esp. if you have to go to the restroom), I would wear a jogbra underneath. I don't like to be TOO revealing!
 
Hi there! I'm Liz and am an adult on set athlete. :) Still new to the whole running/walking thing (like since Jan) but have been swimming and biking since I was little. Actually considered a local sprint tri this summer but want to do the Chicago 1/2 and not sure about training for both so soon.

Betsy - thanks for that info! Answered some questions I had quite nicely. Sure I'll have many more. BTW, have you ever rented a wetsuit? Lots of the water around here never actually warms up.

Stacie - Pretty sure that's the Danskin one (one of two I was looking into).

Carrie - where you at? I'm outside Chicago so "below" the lake.
 
Liz - I'm in West Michigan, across from Milwaukee is probably teh best landmark.
 
Hi, Liz!!

I have my own wetsuit (ok, 3, but one will prob get sold soon).:goodvibes It was a worthy investment, once I decided that I would be so totally hooked on triathlon! :) It is nice that there are shops out there that would rent them to people for races. Definitely worth swimming in at least once before race day, to get used to it.
 




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