The Running Thread --2025

[rick1zoo2]

So another feeding thing we figured out the hard way: For the Springtime Surprise weekend, we stayed at the Wilderness Lodge and got Club Lounge access, which worked great for post race breakfasts and dinners, but the dessert service was 8pm-10pm and the main thing there was warm cobbler with ice cream. We adjust our sleeping patterns weeks out from a race weekend so that by the race week we are going to bed at 8. So we tried having the cobbler right at 8, then heading straight to bed. That didn't work too well as we both had trouble sleeping after having all that sugar. So now we know to stop eating early enough (around 6) to match sleeping times.

 

[rick1zoo2]

As others have noted, you can toggle through the different screens while you are on your run. You can set up intervals on the watch itself or you can create a plan that includes intervals. You cannot, however, switch in and out of plans or intervals on any particular run. But it is easy enough to finish the one run and start the next one.

ETA: you can skip an interval too. Sometimes I just run through the walk interval or walk through the run interval.

We are setting up a tempo run for Wednesday by programming it as a workout in the COROS app. I am hearing a lot of swearing from your end of the table, so I am thinking it's not too easy? I think I have mine figured out...

 

[Erika10021]

We are setting up a tempo run for Wednesday by programming it as a workout in the COROS app. I am hearing a lot of swearing from your end of the table, so I am thinking it's not too easy? I think I have mine figured out...

I really should have read the instructions first instead of just trying to wing it. If anyone else has struggled to program complicated runs from Billy to your Coros watch, please feel free to DM for helpful hints.

 

[sandam1]

So another feeding thing we figured out the hard way: For the Springtime Surprise weekend, we stayed at the Wilderness Lodge and got Club Lounge access, which worked great for post race breakfasts and dinners, but the dessert service was 8pm-10pm and the main thing there was warm cobbler with ice cream. We adjust our sleeping patterns weeks out from a race weekend so that by the race week we are going to bed at 8. So we tried having the cobbler right at 8, then heading straight to bed. That didn't work too well as we both had trouble sleeping after having all that sugar. So now we know to stop eating early enough (around 6) to match sleeping times.

My goal for Disney weekends is to always eat dinner early enough so that the final pre-race elimination can happen before we leave the hotel room in the morning. (Talk about something that non-runners would never consider!)

 

[rick1zoo2]

My goal for Disney weekends is to always eat dinner early enough so that the final pre-race elimination can happen before we leave the hotel room in the morning. (Talk about something that non-runners would never consider!)

That is also a major consideration for me when adjusting sleep times for race weekends, also need to adjust meal times and the time for that! Can't have it happen during the race!

 

[eminemilie]

I am still getting use to my garmin. I'm sure there are a TON of things I'm missing that I could use it for, but it seems so overwhelming to try and find information that's not "Oh look at this cool watch that I got I can use it for all these things" with no more information. I do really like the body battery, I knew I was dealing with a bit of a chronic fatigue problem (thank you Hashimoto's), but seeing it reflected back in actual data makes me feel less crazy.

I was so focused on making sure my garmin started tracking my run this morning that I ran straight into my garbage can at the end of my driveway . My husband looked at the camera footage and said it was pretty hysterical. Luckily I didn't injure anything other than my pride, and I'm pretty sure none of my neighbors saw lol

 

[eminemilie]

As always, we’re all “an experiment of one”… I eat breakfast in my room before an rD race, and also have a granola bar or PBJ an hour before or so before starting my race - haven’t had a problem with that yet.

I think this is really important for people to remember. What works for someone might not work for you for various reasons. I truly believe one of the most important parts of training for a race (or weekend) is figuing out what your body is telling you and then listening to it.

I know for me, because I'm on a glp-1, my nutrition needs and what my body can handle are going to be different than most everyone else. I also know, even though most people say you don't need to hydrate if you're only running a few miles, that I sweat a lot and need to bring a water bottle on any run that's going to be over a mile.

Even knowing all of this, its still hard to not get caught up in what other people are doing/thinking though.

 

[PrincessV]

In case anyone’s wondering: my Gorilla-glued Garmin has now held up through yoga, a day at work, and a very sweaty run. I haven’t chanced it in the pool yet, but might give it a shot this weekend, because I’ve got an entire tube of glue and it occurs to me that I can just keep gluing it back together for yeeeaaars at this rate lol! Or at least until there’s some kind of deal to be had on a Coros.

 

[avondale]

In case anyone’s wondering: my Gorilla-glued Garmin has now held up through yoga, a day at work, and a very sweaty run. I haven’t chanced it in the pool yet, but might give it a shot this weekend, because I’ve got an entire tube of glue and it occurs to me that I can just keep gluing it back together for yeeeaaars at this rate lol! Or at least until there’s seemed kind of deal to be had on a Coros.

At some point, it will be more glue than watch band! LOL

 

[RuntheMouse]

I bailed on a run for the first time in my training block today. I was supposed to do 10 miles but the T&D was so bad this morning I was struggling to breathe. So I got a very slow 5 in and called it a day.

Fall, I miss you.

 

[avondale]

I ran into this article through Outside+: https://run.outsideonline.com/road/...g7oU4NQ&_hsmi=372230275&utm_source=newsletter "What's a 'good' 5k time? Here's what the latest data says"

It was really interest to see a bunch of data broken down by gender and age. We all know, of course, that we get slower as we get older. But it's pretty amazing how much the median times for each group slow down. And honestly, for women, the median times are slower than I expected even at younger ages.

I've got a 5k coming up in a couple of weeks, and this is taking a lot of the pressure off that I was putting on myself, which is kind of nice.

 

[The Expert]

I ran into this article through Outside+: https://run.outsideonline.com/road/...g7oU4NQ&_hsmi=372230275&utm_source=newsletter "What's a 'good' 5k time? Here's what the latest data says"

It was really interest to see a bunch of data broken down by gender and age. We all know, of course, that we get slower as we get older. But it's pretty amazing how much the median times for each group slow down. And honestly, for women, the median times are slower than I expected even at younger ages.

I've got a 5k coming up in a couple of weeks, and this is taking a lot of the pressure off that I was putting on myself, which is kind of nice.

This was so cool to look at! I think the fact that these are all results from 2024 races is interesting. Reports have indicated that more people have started running since the pandemic, so it would track to assume this result includes a lot of new runners. And there is certainly a wave of new-ish "influencers" online who are advocating for more inclusion of slower runners, whether new to the sport or not. I would be super curious to see these same numbers from 2019.

 

[jmasgat]

I’ve looked at age graded results before and have been both reassured and depressed that my sub-28 5k from last year was pretty decent for a 65 yr old. But definitely seen the steep drop off in the last 3-5 years, let alone 10. I don’t think it’s worth killing myself to fruitlessly chase something that is not realistic.

 

[Herding_Cats]

I ran into this article through Outside+: https://run.outsideonline.com/road/...g7oU4NQ&_hsmi=372230275&utm_source=newsletter "What's a 'good' 5k time? Here's what the latest data says"

It was really interest to see a bunch of data broken down by gender and age. We all know, of course, that we get slower as we get older. But it's pretty amazing how much the median times for each group slow down. And honestly, for women, the median times are slower than I expected even at younger ages.

I've got a 5k coming up in a couple of weeks, and this is taking a lot of the pressure off that I was putting on myself, which is kind of nice.

I love this because it makes me feel decidedly average and like less of a turtle. Especially since I watched a woman my age run a sub-18 5k on Tuesday

 

[prncssjas]

I ran into this article through Outside+: https://run.outsideonline.com/road/...g7oU4NQ&_hsmi=372230275&utm_source=newsletter "What's a 'good' 5k time? Here's what the latest data says"

It was really interest to see a bunch of data broken down by gender and age. We all know, of course, that we get slower as we get older. But it's pretty amazing how much the median times for each group slow down. And honestly, for women, the median times are slower than I expected even at younger ages.

I've got a 5k coming up in a couple of weeks, and this is taking a lot of the pressure off that I was putting on myself, which is kind of nice.

Thank you for sharing this article, I loved it and in fact, just sent it to DH. It's so easy to get caught up in numbers and stats, especially when you hang out with a lot of people who run "fast." This is a nice reminder to just focus on me and to do my best, if that's the kind of gratification I am looking for (as it's not for everyone...).

 

[accm]

I ran into this article through Outside+: https://run.outsideonline.com/road/...g7oU4NQ&_hsmi=372230275&utm_source=newsletter "What's a 'good' 5k time? Here's what the latest data says"

It was really interest to see a bunch of data broken down by gender and age. We all know, of course, that we get slower as we get older. But it's pretty amazing how much the median times for each group slow down. And honestly, for women, the median times are slower than I expected even at younger ages.

I've got a 5k coming up in a couple of weeks, and this is taking a lot of the pressure off that I was putting on myself, which is kind of nice.

Thank you for sharing this! It's so easy to compare myself to "fast" runners, and always feel like I'm slow. Even finishing 1st in my age group for a local 5k, I justified it by saying it was a small race.

 

[rick1zoo2]

I really should have read the instructions first instead of just trying to wing it. If anyone else has struggled to program complicated runs from Billy to your Coros watch, please feel free to DM for helpful hints.

An update on the Coros: Yesterday we used it for what I will call a 'pace progression' run: 1 mile easy warm-up then five segments of increasing paces each at 5 minutes with 30 second slow break in between each, then a mile of slow cool down. This was the thing we were figuring out how to program into the Coros watch. It does show, very briefly, what pace range is next and it does have alarms (vibrates) and will show the current pace in blue if you are too slow and red if too fast for the prescribed pace range. For me, I found it difficult to read the very tiny numbers which pace I was supposed to be at. Then I got very mixed up as to where I was in the pace progression and it got to the point where I had so many alarms, that I ended up ignoring it all and enjoyed just going what I thought was a decent, fast pace until the cool down final mile. Turns out when I looked at the chart afterwards, I wasn't too far off from the paces, so it worked out ok.

Last week there was a firmware update that added Voice Alarms, and so I tested it and was happy to find out that those alarms can now be in a voice through my headphones, which I think might work a lot better as I won't have to struggle to see on the screen. Phrases like this: "run for 5 minutes at 11:30 to 12:00 per mile" and "rest for 30 seconds at 12:00 to 12:30 per mile". To use it, I had to have the Coros app running on the phone. I use the phone and shokz headphones for music, so that will work for me. You can also connect the Coros watch to the headphones instead.

 

[WillRunForPizza]

QOTD: What do you consider a long run?

ATTQOTD: Someone asked this in another group I'm in, and I thought it was an interesting topic. For me personally, I’d call a run a long run if it was my longest run of the week AND it was longer than 90 minutes. If I have a mid-week workout that takes 100 minutes (like I did this week), but I have a longer run over the weekend, the workout’s not my long run. If I’m building back after a break and my longest run of the week is 60 minutes, I wouldn’t consider that a long run either.

However, I'm not feeling particularly prescriptive about this definition - everyone here could have a completely different answer and I wouldn't argue with you. I think this is one of those things that you can interpret however seems best to you. I'm just curious to hear what other ideas are out there!

 

[RuntheMouse]

ATTQOTD: Whatever my Sunday run is no seriously I have a similar “definition “ that you do. Usually a LR to me is 10+ miles which as stated above is most often on Sundays for me. I do a midweek run that is often 10 miles but that isn’t a long run in my eyes. Of course if I’m not training or just whatevering my runs I don’t know if I’d think of my Sunday run as a LR. I’m all over with this one!

 

[FlyingDonut]

ATTQOTD:
Long run is more about feel and goal for me. It's just about the distance; any intervening tempo makes it a tempo run. It also has to be the longest run of the week. I could totally have a short long run on a light overall week.