The Running Thread --2025

[PrincessV]

Faith Kipyegon's sub-4 mile attempt is tomorrow at 1:15 ET! If you're looking for something to watch tonight, Amazon Prime has a really interesting sort of documentary that talks about her background (did you know she won the World Cross junior championship in 2011 with no shoes? ), the tech Nike's been working on, the work they've done on the pacing formation, and her season so far. I enjoyed it.

I don't know if there's a woman competing today who can run a sub-4 mile. But if anyone can do it, it's her.

I watched episode 1 yesterday - it was great. I have some concerns about the emphasis on time vs race strategy lately, and I doubt she’s going to break 4:00, but Faith seems to be excited about this, so I’m excited for her and I’ll watch!

Also, for my fellow ultra fans, Western States is this weekend. It’ll be live streamed on WSER’s YouTube channel.

 

[WillRunForPizza]

I feel like there’s no way she does it (although I think she’ll run faster than her current record)

Logically I think you're probably right, especially after the 1000m WR attempts this spring. But for the next slightly-less-than-24 hours, I'll have a little Faith.

 

[Herding_Cats]

Tangential to amazing feats in running (see what I did there?)

The Dead Cow Gully backyard ultra just finished up at 119hrs with the finisher, Phil Gore, completing 798km. That's.....that's ridiculous.

 

[garneska]

Sounds like a triathlete in the making to me

Well it is less running and more cross training as the medical professionals will recommend.

 

[Zutroy]

I feel like there’s no way she does it (although I think she’ll run faster than her current record), and then the media will be stupid and talk about her “failed attempt” that non-runners won’t understand is in no way a failure.

I am enjoying the spectacle of it all though.

She missed it by 6.42 seconds. Honestly, I think stopping for all the character photos is what cost her the sub-4 mile.

 

[nancipants]

What an exciting race. Bummer she didn't get it, but she said she's going to keep trying. It was nice seeing Grant Fisher as one of her pacers!

Those lights seemed way off to me. She was always in the green. Seemed like they were calibrated for her world record and not the sub-4.

 

[WillRunForPizza]

Those lights seemed way off to me. She was always in the green. Seemed like they were calibrated for her world record and not the sub-4.

There was a set of lights for the sub-4 and another set for her WR. I think they made one green and one yellow, so it was hard to tell them apart.

 

[WillRunForPizza]

(But to be clear, the front of the lights is where the mark is, so being in the middle of the lights still means you're behind the pace.)

 

[Professor_Cookie]

Where are you?

yep, PC, UT

Park City, Utah! Home of the Greatest Snow on Earth.

 

[Abg1960]

What would my pace need to be in the marathon to do the rides offered and not get swept?

 

[Herding_Cats]

What would my pace need to be in the marathon to do the rides offered and not get swept?

this is a really big "it depends" question. I think a rough estimate would be at least an hour ahead of the balloon ladies. But also, if you run "too fast" you'll be through AK before it opens, and therefore not be able to ride anything.

We are definitely anticipating some course changes based on the current construction around Epcot, MK, and AK, but we don't know at this point how much that would impact the course or what sort of re-routing they may do.

Are you starting in a POT corral? A non-POT corral? Just because you put in the fastest non-POT pace doesn't guarantee you'll be in the first non-POT corral (D for the marathon.) The difference between starting in A corral and E corral is around 30min. That's nearly 2min/mi difference for pace with AK being just past mile 15.

What are the lines like at the rides? Sometimes they open single-rider for runners, and sometimes they don't. Some rides have very long pre-ride "shows" and you need to be able to dedicate quite a bit of time if you wanted to double up on RnR and ToT (as an example.) Every time I've run past EE it has a posted wait time of 30min.

This past MW they were NOT allowing runners on EE when I went past even though we were 45min ahead of the balloon ladies at that point.

If you stick around until the end of December, we do a big pdf doc with all of the things race-weekend related for the Dis'ers who want to participate, INCLUDING a gigantic spreadsheet of landmarks based on your anticipated actual pace, to help give an idea of when you'd pass certain things and help time out rides, on-course food/bev stops, or meeting spectators.

 

[WillRunForPizza]

Rest day tomorrow, so I'm done for the month!

June 2025
Running: 30h 4m, 185 miles
Strength/mobility: 7h 27m
Total: 37h 31m

I am training for marathon training.

 

[avondale]

In the end crossed in 5:44, I would definitely consider this one again but for now anything longer is off my list, or at least anything in June. Never say never though, we’ve all learned that.

Great first 50k, @Dopey 2020 ! Your description had me thinking "maybe I'll have to look at this race...but it's in June. I don't think I'll like the T+D" and then you got to the description of end of your race. You did a fantastic job toughing it out. Congrats on the new race distance!

 

[Naomeri]

Race Report: TCPride 2025 Rainbow Run 5K

It was super stormy last night, and I was up until about 12:30am finishing my hat, and I had to get up at 5:40 to leave in time to get parked before they closed the road. I got parked and ate a leisurely breakfast in my car, since I got there at 6:45 and the shuttles to the start didn't start until 7:30 (they didn't start loading until almost 8 ) Also, I spent about 6 hours Saturday weeding, planting, and hauling paving stones and mulch with my Grandma

Then the shuttle driver didn't know that he wasn't going to be allowed to drive on the closed roads, even though they were closed for the race that hadn't started yet and all sorts of official vehicles were using them) and it ended up taking longer to drive to the start than it would have if I'd just walked from my parking ramp. But we got there with plenty of time to spare.

The course was really good, pretty close to flat and roads in reasonably good shape (for MN city roads, at least) There was a little crowd support at the beginning, but a lot more once we got on Hennepin Avenue and the pre-parade crowds were gathering. I got a lot of compliments on my skirt and hat throughout the day, so I feel better about the amount of time and effort that I put into them.


This was my fastest official 5K, and the actual time should be 37:03, since I got stuck at a traffic crossing for 22 seconds (I paused my watch) My watch measured the course at 3.01, but I'll take the official measurement because it makes me faster


After I finished and got my medal, random swag bag, and big cup of water, I walked back to my parking ramp to change into a dry shirt, wring out the back of my visor (I don't think I've ever had my head be that sweaty, even in some of our FL races) and drink some electrolyte-fortified water (2 bottles) and eat some King's Hawaiian rolls that I brought along before I went back up to the street to wait for the parade to start. There was a booth across the street with hot dogs and chips, so I went over and got some, and a Coke.

About 4 hours later, the parade finally ended (it was scheduled to start at 11, but was delayed by about a half hour) and I went back down to my car and made my very slow way home (lots of roads closed for the parade and Pride in general)


I would definitely do this race again, and I'd love to do a race on this route sometime when it's cold, I think I could break 35 minutes.

 

[avondale]

Race Report: TCPride 2025 Rainbow Run 5K

It was super stormy last night, and I was up until about 12:30am finishing my hat, and I had to get up at 5:40 to leave in time to get parked before they closed the road. I got parked and ate a leisurely breakfast in my car, since I got there at 6:45 and the shuttles to the start didn't start until 7:30 (they didn't start loading until almost 8 ) Also, I spent about 6 hours Saturday weeding, planting, and hauling paving stones and mulch with my Grandma

Then the shuttle driver didn't know that he wasn't going to be allowed to drive on the closed roads, even though they were closed for the race that hadn't started yet and all sorts of official vehicles were using them) and it ended up taking longer to drive to the start than it would have if I'd just walked from my parking ramp. But we got there with plenty of time to spare.

The course was really good, pretty close to flat and roads in reasonably good shape (for MN city roads, at least) There was a little crowd support at the beginning, but a lot more once we got on Hennepin Avenue and the pre-parade crowds were gathering. I got a lot of compliments on my skirt and hat throughout the day, so I feel better about the amount of time and effort that I put into them.
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This was my fastest official 5K, and the actual time should be 37:03, since I got stuck at a traffic crossing for 22 seconds (I paused my watch) My watch measured the course at 3.01, but I'll take the official measurement because it makes me faster
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After I finished and got my medal, random swag bag, and big cup of water, I walked back to my parking ramp to change into a dry shirt, wring out the back of my visor (I don't think I've ever had my head be that sweaty, even in some of our FL races) and drink some electrolyte-fortified water (2 bottles) and eat some King's Hawaiian rolls that I brought along before I went back up to the street to wait for the parade to start. There was a booth across the street with hot dogs and chips, so I went over and got some, and a Coke.

About 4 hours later, the parade finally ended (it was scheduled to start at 11, but was delayed by about a half hour) and I went back down to my car and made my very slow way home (lots of roads closed for the parade and Pride in general)
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I would definitely do this race again, and I'd love to do a race on this route sometime when it's cold, I think I could break 35 minutes.

Great job! Congrats! Pretty medal!

 

[Professor_Cookie]

I will also be resting tomorrow, and it is the start of a recovery week before the trading for Big Cottonwood Half in September. The biggest thing this month was consistency vs the past three months. I’m feeling a lot better, although I’m pretty tired currently after todays 7 miler into working on my “race” car for 6 hours.