The Running Thread - 2016

ATTQOTD: From Jeff Galloway, in the few minutes I was able to speak with him at the expo before my first 1/2 marathon: "You can do this. Your running is in here (points to my heart), and in here (points to my head). And so don't worry, because you have it in you now."

He said lots of other wonderful things, but this really stuck with me. He managed to be my coach and find the right words, and we had just met!


LSUlakes, would you be able to add two races coming up? Thank you! :)
-sourire-
9/4: Disneyland half marathon
10/16: Hershey half marathon
 
QOTD: What is the best advice a fellow runner has given to you?
"Hey, have you considered running on trails?" Great advice because it was what finally got me to run slower...and in turn convinced me that I could in fact slow down and not lose fitness/speed.

ATTQOTD: Famously written about on here by Coach Charles, "The hay is in the barn". Basically, come race day, trust in the training and hard work you've done to lead up to this point and enjoy the fruits of your labor!
Aw, Coach Charles...miss that guy. I use that quote leading up to every marathon now!
 
ATTQOTD:
I think I've receive more good advice here on this thread, than in the 7 years I had run prior! The sentiment that was most helpful to me when I first started out though was similar to "the hay is in the barn." Even though I didn't feel like a natural born runner at all, I knew I had "put in my time" and followed my training plan. No matter how nervous I was on race day, I could trust in that!
 
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Okay, so it's the first Sunday in Oct, but Crawlin Crab is supposed to be really good. Then you would have plenty of time to recover before your marathon.

Great suggestion. We did our first HM at the very first Crawlin Crab and it was a nice event. J & A races are always a good time.
Due to a scheduling conflict, I don't think I can make it this year.
 
Absolutely! Class of 92. Wow, that seems a long time ago now that I type it! Anyway, Go Pack and WITH!!

Class of 2005!

ATTQOTD: Run your race - not the people around you. I used to get caught up in trying to keep up with everyone around me, especially at the start of the race. Now I try to keep it slow and if able, pass all/some of those that sprinted past me at the start!
 
I'm a day late, but I'm going to use the QOTD to introduce myself. I've been reading for months, but it's a little hard to join in when I still don't think of myself as a real runner. I'm signed up for the GSC, and have lots of big dreams in my head. (Can I do Dopey in 2018? Maybe I can do ALL of them? LOL.)


Congrats on jumping into this thread and being a runner. Awesome that you are signed up for GSC and hopefully future events.

***ATTENTION EVERYONE***** (trumpets blaring)...We have another recruit for Team Dopey 2018 ******
 
ATTQOTD: I agree with what others have said about "slow down." And also the "run your own race." I think that's one of my biggest obstacles. I worry too much about my pace and trying to match others when I've really just got to let that go and do what works for me. It was definitely helpful advice for my half marathon back in June, because it was so hot that day that I just had to slow down, forget about time, and focus on finishing. Which I did, and since that was the ultimate goal, I was happy. :)
 
I enjoyed reading about everyone's goals for the month. I thought it was a good question to ask, for those with a plan and those who maybe haven't thought about it, to type it out and somehow feel accountable now since its on the internet. Good luck to everyone this month and I look forward to seeing how everything went for each of yall at the end of the month!.

QOTD: What are some interesting weather events you have witnessed while out for a run?

ATTQOTD: A few winters ago, I got to run while it sleet / snowed. For those further up north, this may not seem like a big deal, but in the southern states, the frozen stuff rarely happens. Another one, was from this morning (which is what gave me the QOTD idea) I checked the weather before heading out and basically it said, "like running in a steam bath". I head out the door around 4:50AM and I see lightning in the distance and was like, what the hell, I did not see this on the local radar. Went out and ran anyway and had a cool light show to watch while running. When I finished my run I pulled up the radar to see how far away the storm was because I did not hear any thunder. The storm was over a lake near New Orleans, which is ~45 miles away. It was a amazing thing to watch while out for a early morning run.

I ran after work one night last summer and there was lightning everywhere. No thunder, just a lightning storm. I am sure everyone in the neighborhood thought I was crazy for running at that point but I knew it wasn't close.


ATTQOTD: Here in New England the motto is if you don't like the weather wait five minutes. It'll change;). I've run in all kinds of weather, but nothing particularly comes to mind. If the roads are clear, I enjoy running in a light snow, as long as it's melting as it hits, and the roads aren't turning to ice. I'm fine with rain, cold to about 10 degrees (-4 with wind is coldest I've done). The heat gets me, probably because we only get it in spurts here. I'll run in it but cautiously, because it's just not something I'm well acclimated too.



You beat me to this. I enjoy thunder snow, but he takes it to another level ;)


@DopeyBadger, I love your explanations about effort/speed/duration. I have a lot of fast friends who at the same age as me (40s) have been running since they were kids or teens. I've only been running any kind of distance for 4 years, and have had quite a few injury setbacks from trying to do too much too soon. I feel horrible usually when I think about my runs compared to theirs, 1:45 halves versus my 2:25. But you've really put a great spin on it. Makes me feel much better :)

Speed doesn't matter. Of course we all want to be faster but if you are having fun, keeping healthy, and improving your life through running does it REALLY matter how fast you are?


Why are there so many of us passengers on the hip injury train? I would like to get off at the nearest stop please!


Excellent way to describe it! Honestly, I'm impressed with anyone who laces up and gets out there. All of it is an accomplishment!

My injury is to the ankle but I agree there seem to be a lot of hip injuries, or injuries in general.

I agree that anyone on this thread, or starting a race of any distance is impressive. We are all making a choice to better ourselves by doing this. How can you not be excited to be a part of it?


I'm definitely in the prefer cold weather camp too. I cannot wait for fall.

I LOVE the fall, running or not.


So, one of my goals this month is to run early in the mornings, and to make that successful I have to do so nearly everyday to make it a habit. Well, the first two days on the month I did not even hear my alarm going off. Today I did and it took me a little while from when the first alarm went off at 4:00AM and by the time I started my run it was 4:41 AM. Tomorrows goal is to get out the door a little earlier and try to get a full 10 miles in. The early wake up should at least help me fall asleep earlier tonight. I'll report back tomorrow with how it went. lol



Ill run a race in a singlet in the 30's, but I run nearly all my runs in "normal" running shirts. Like you, I think around 20 is the point where long sleeves would be considered. Now my hands are a different story, i'll bust out the cheap cotton gloves you can get at an expo for like $1.50 a pair all day. Nothing worse than your hands being cold.



Your getting a little ahead here, we are just asking for a cool front in the fall or late summer. I got a good laugh out of you post, so I wanted to post something, but I think the sarcasm in my comments probably do not translate into text.

You need me to call at you at 4:00? I'll wake you up. You'll hate me but I'll do it!


Been following this thread for a while (wanted to get caught up before posting and wanted to make sure I stuck with it) so finally chiming in. I took a long hiatius from running, but been doing C25K to keep me in check (I have a habit of starting to run too fast, too much distance, too soon). I am registered to run the Princess 5k with my family in Feb and the 10k myself. This thread has been very inspiring and so far I'm on track to complete the last two weeks of the C25K app. My plan is to start the 10k app after that.

ATQOTD: Nothing really recent, but many years ago in high school one of our cross country races turned into a mud run. Shoes were getting stuck and everyone was having a great time. It made for an interesting bus ride home, but thankfully it was one of the few local ones we had.

Welcome! So now that you know what habit you had that burnt you out and made you stop you will do things differently this time and eventually get to the distances you want to be at. Before you know it you will be one of us crazies.


I live in northern New England, so there's a lot of the year we wouldn't be able to run if we didn't run in cool/cold temps. :) Running in the 30's is actually really nice. All my PRs have been set at temps in the 30's.

I don't mind running in the cold necessarily. I like the cold. I just don't like that it takes so long to get ready to run. I love when I can just throw my normal running clothes and shoes on and head it. Adding the layers slows me down.

I'm a day late, but I'm going to use the QOTD to introduce myself. I've been reading for months, but it's a little hard to join in when I still don't think of myself as a real runner. I'm signed up for the GSC, and have lots of big dreams in my head. (Can I do Dopey in 2018? Maybe I can do ALL of them? LOL.)

I started training in May. Of course, I have no clue what I'm doing, so it's kind of a mix of C25K (right now) and Galloway's run/walk/run and just increasing distance. I'm going to run a local 10K in mid-September for proof of time, but my goal is really just to finish in the upright position. I'm about 80 pounds overweight, so I'm definitely not fast!

QOTD: What are your goals as it relates to running for the month of August?

1) Keep running, especially increasing the "long" runs in preparation for the 10K.

I guess I only have that goal--don't quit. There are probably others I should have, but I don't know what they are!

You are not a day late, you are right on time. Welcome. With so many lurkers joining us recently I need to point something out. I don't know if you all read from page 1. If you did you read when the QOTD was to tell our stories of how we got where we are. None of us are elite athletes in that we are professionals. We have some ultra runners, and triathletes, and multi-time marathoners. We have a Boston Qualifier and a few who aspire to be. But, the majority of us come from a time where we didn't run. We were overweight and unhappy. When we started running we doubted ourselves and we were scared at this whole process.

"(Can I do Dopey in 2018? Maybe I can do ALL of them? LOL.)" To answer your question, YES. You can do it. If you believe you can do it, you can do it. The only thing stopping you is your mind. Will it be a lot of work, absolutely. Will it be worth it, absolutely. Ask @Keels about her journey to Dopey last year. I got to follow it all on the 2016 Marathon thread. She was scared at points. Some tears were involved at points. But I also got to read her posts after she did it. It sure seemed worth it to me.

You say you're new and you have no idea what you're doing. Welcome to the club. I was scared out of my mind when I signed up for my first race. But, now you found a place where you can ask your questions and find out what to do. You'll have to make it work for your budget (as far as gadgets and shoes and stuff) and your body but there is a lot of experience and information here. Most importantly, you will have bad days, we all do, you will get motivation here. And when you have good days you can come here and share those as well. And if you eat right and keep up the running you won't be 80 lbs overweight very long. About 2-3 weeks ago several people posted their transformation pictures. You have made the decision to change your life, just believe in yourself and make it happen now.



With even more new posters and some new to running folks joining in on the thread I thought we could spread some good advice around with todays QOTD.

QOTD: What is the best advice a fellow runner has given to you?

ATTQOTD: I asked a friend what he thought was the best way to achieve a BQ. He told me high mileage, and with the increased miles the speed would come naturally.

I asked this a couple of years ago, and then followed up with "currently I can run 4 miles as a easy run that takes nothing out of me, what should that number be when looking to get a BQ. The answer he gave me is 8 miles or around a hour. I can comfortably run 7 miles in a hour now, and I think once temps come down some, 8 is within reach to be a nice steady run. One day at a time for now.

I don't remember any specific person or piece of advice. There was some obvious ones, like don't try anything new on race day, etc...

What I remember when I first started running was the encouragement and support from people on this forum. PrincessV and John were on the ToT thread and helped talk me off the ledge a few dozen times.

Here is the advice I give to people when they are first starting out. It's simple. "DON'T GIVE UP!" Do not quit on yourself. You can buy the nicest shoes, the fancy gadgets, and the best running clothes money can buy but if you quit when you get discouraged then all that stuff just become expensive dust collectors. You may not love running, not everyone does. But at least give yourself the benefit of the doubt and run through the first few months of frustration and then find out. I don't like the first 3 miles of just about every run. If I quit when it was uncomfortable I would never run again. It's miles 4-15 that are the most fun. Miles 16-22 are when I wish I would get hit by a car, and 23-26.2 is when I realize I can do anything I set my mind too. I would miss out on all of that if I gave up at mile 1-3.

Since I seem to be on a roll posting today, lets not forget the upcoming races this weekend.

05 - @disneydaydreamer33 - Superhero 2.5k (NG / N/A)
06 - @jhorstma - OldFashioned 5k (28:59 / N/A)
06 - @DVCFan1994 - TD Beach to Beacon 10k (NG / N/A)
06 - @DisneyDreamer ♥ - Big Ten Network 10k (NG / N/A)
06 - @GARUNMOM - Vinings 5k (NG / N/A)
07 - @SueInBoston - Bridge & Back 10k (NG/ N/A)


Good luck to each of you on your upcoming race. If you would like to revise your goal let me know. Look forward to reading how things go for you.

Good luck to everyone this weekend.
 
Congrats on jumping into this thread and being a runner. Awesome that you are signed up for GSC and hopefully future events.

***ATTENTION EVERYONE***** (trumpets blaring)...We have another recruit for Team Dopey 2018 ******

It would be cool if all of us that are doing Dopey and who aren't running for a certain time for the Marathon could run it together.
 
ATTQOTD:
I have to give @Waiting2goback credit for the best advice I have ever gotten from a fellow runner. Before I decided to come out of lurking I didn't really have any other runners I could talk to. So when I found him I asked him a billion questions. One thing that I struggled with was why am I always faster at a race than in training. So when I asked him he said if you are happy with the races then why do anything different in training. At that moment something clicked in my brain. I was happy with my races and I was improving, so why did I need to kill myself in training and make running less enjoyable. On top of that he was the one that encouraged me to stop lurking and join in on this thread, that was also great advice!
 
You need me to call at you at 4:00? I'll wake you up. You'll hate me but I'll do it!

I may have to take you up on that one. Although the rest of this week isn't going to be to bad. No work tomorrow for me, and no need to get that early of a start on Saturday. Sunday is my rest day, so maybe Monday...

Edit: Are we in the same time zone? That could be a big difference maker?

I'd also like to add that DW said my request to be in bed at 9:00 PM so I can get enough rest to wake up at 4:00 is a little to early to go to bed. I did try to explain, if I am done running in the mornings, I would have more family time available in the afternoon. Maybe she wants me out the house...
 
You are not a day late, you are right on time. Welcome. With so many lurkers joining us recently I need to point something out. I don't know if you all read from page 1. If you did you read when the QOTD was to tell our stories of how we got where we are. None of us are elite athletes in that we are professionals. We have some ultra runners, and triathletes, and multi-time marathoners. We have a Boston Qualifier and a few who aspire to be. But, the majority of us come from a time where we didn't run. We were overweight and unhappy. When we started running we doubted ourselves and we were scared at this whole process.

"(Can I do Dopey in 2018? Maybe I can do ALL of them? LOL.)" To answer your question, YES. You can do it. If you believe you can do it, you can do it. The only thing stopping you is your mind. Will it be a lot of work, absolutely. Will it be worth it, absolutely. Ask @Keels about her journey to Dopey last year. I got to follow it all on the 2016 Marathon thread. She was scared at points. Some tears were involved at points. But I also got to read her posts after she did it. It sure seemed worth it to me.

You say you're new and you have no idea what you're doing. Welcome to the club. I was scared out of my mind when I signed up for my first race. But, now you found a place where you can ask your questions and find out what to do. You'll have to make it work for your budget (as far as gadgets and shoes and stuff) and your body but there is a lot of experience and information here. Most importantly, you will have bad days, we all do, you will get motivation here. And when you have good days you can come here and share those as well. And if you eat right and keep up the running you won't be 80 lbs overweight very long. About 2-3 weeks ago several people posted their transformation pictures. You have made the decision to change your life, just believe in yourself and make it happen now.

Thanks, to you and everyone else for the warm welcome!

The first thing I'd like to read more about is how you guys plan and track things. (I'm a researcher, so very much a planner who loves data!) I've been using a C25K app, which is fine for the first several weeks, when you are running a minute, walking one, etc. But now that I'm at the level of "run 20 minutes" it's not so useful. I'm using a Gear S2 for HR and GPS. I suppose I'll just have to figure out my plan. :-)
 
Since I seem to be on a roll posting today, lets not forget the upcoming races this weekend.

05 - @disneydaydreamer33 - Superhero 2.5k (NG / N/A)
06 - @jhorstma - OldFashioned 5k (28:59 / N/A)
06 - @DVCFan1994 - TD Beach to Beacon 10k (NG / N/A)
06 - @DisneyDreamer ♥ - Big Ten Network 10k (NG / N/A)
06 - @GARUNMOM - Vinings 5k (NG / N/A)
07 - @SueInBoston - Bridge & Back 10k (NG/ N/A)


Good luck to each of you on your upcoming race. If you would like to revise your goal let me know. Look forward to reading how things go for you.

Good luck to everyone racing this weekend!

@LSUlakes I'm out for TD Beach to Beacon. It's harder to get into than any Disney Race, I think 7-8 minute sell out this year. I entered the subsequent lottery but didn't make it. In the end it's ok, because with my injury I wouldn't have been able to do it. Sorry I didn't update sooner!
 
ATTQOTD:
I have to give @Waiting2goback credit for the best advice I have ever gotten from a fellow runner. Before I decided to come out of lurking I didn't really have any other runners I could talk to. So when I found him I asked him a billion questions. One thing that I struggled with was why am I always faster at a race than in training. So when I asked him he said if you are happy with the races then why do anything different in training. At that moment something clicked in my brain. I was happy with my races and I was improving, so why did I need to kill myself in training and make running less enjoyable. On top of that he was the one that encouraged me to stop lurking and join in on this thread, that was also great advice!


I never thought I would ever have a positive impact on anyone here so that's very nice of you to say. Thank you! We haven't talked in a while but you know I am there if you need anything else and I also know you will get to your goal times at some point. You have been doing great. I have been watching. :teeth:

I may have to take you up on that one. Although the rest of this week isn't going to be to bad. No work tomorrow for me, and no need to get that early of a start on Saturday. Sunday is my rest day, so maybe Monday...

Edit: Are we in the same time zone? That could be a big difference maker?

I'd also like to add that DW said my request to be in bed at 9:00 PM so I can get enough rest to wake up at 4:00 is a little to early to go to bed. I did try to explain, if I am done running in the mornings, I would have more family time available in the afternoon. Maybe she wants me out the house...

I am in MA so I am pretty sure we are in the same time zone.


Thanks, to you and everyone else for the warm welcome!

The first thing I'd like to read more about is how you guys plan and track things. (I'm a researcher, so very much a planner who loves data!) I've been using a C25K app, which is fine for the first several weeks, when you are running a minute, walking one, etc. But now that I'm at the level of "run 20 minutes" it's not so useful. I'm using a Gear S2 for HR and GPS. I suppose I'll just have to figure out my plan. :-)

It' a pleasure. People use everything from Excel spreadsheets to apps, to Strava. Dopeybadger is one of the more detailed people on here, if you couldn't tell from his posts. But everyone will give you their method I am sure. But if you need to figure out a plan I am sure he will help you with that. He seems to enjoy it, of course I can't volunteer him, but he helps everyone. Once I am healed I may even bother him as well. No need to figure things out when people here already have it figured out.
 












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