The Running Thread—2023

Been having a rough go recently, I did a long run and looks like I gave myself a helluva gluteus medius strain that’s radiating into my lower back and giving me a lot of sciatic pain when I run, presumably pinching a nerve with inflammation. Already saw my PT and he’s working on a plan to get my butt up and running again, but does anyone have any advice or tips? Worried I’ll be walking C2C in Jan :(
I just dealt with something similar. I was diagnosed with piriformis syndrome a couple years ago. If I slack on my PT exercises or do something like sit on asphalt for three days it will flare up. The sciatic nerve is under the piriformis muscle. When the muscle swells it puts pressure on the nerve which is the cause of my lower back pain and pain down the back of my leg. PT exercises, lacrosse ball massaging, Ibuprofen and avoiding sitting on my butt is what helps me. However, my massage therapist is a godsend. It hurts and some foul language comes out of my mouth, but she is a miracle worker 😆
 
Outer shell question:
It is raining. I usually just accept that I will get wet. If it is cold, my sweater gets wet and heavy but still warm (I wear that in winter too). I sweat a lot so I am used to humidity. I am thinking that I might like having a shell that would cut the big rain or the wind sometimes but am not sure. I might get really too hot fast and also get annoyed with the swishing sound.
What do you use and in what circumstances?
I usually just accept getting wet, as long as it's not too cold or windy out. When it gets a little chilly or the wind is cutting, I like the Boost (no hood) or Tantrum (hooded) jackets from Outdoor Research. They're super light weight and packable, so I can slip them in a pocket, if needed. More to the point, they do a great job of cutting the wind out and a good enough job keeping the worst of the rain off.
 
Thank you for the reminder! I’ve been holding out for the price of Glycerin 20s to come down… here’s hoping!
Those are my wife's go-to shoes. I've been waiting for them to come down, too.

Me, I'm waiting for Brooks Adrenalines to get down to a price I want to pay.
 
Yea, I think may go with the Novablast 3 and Novablast 2 rotation for MW. I do think I will bring the Nimbus to wear in the parks afterward for that cushioning. I couldn't imaging going another 16+ miles in the Nimbus my feet were so hot.

It may be an Asics issue in general. I did 15 miles in the Superblast on Saturday and my feet were soaked. When compared to Saucony, Adidas, or Nike, I think the Asics’ upper is just subpar—and I’ve run in them since the Nimbus 8. I ran in the Nike 4% for a recovery run today, and the flyknit upper is still better than anything Asics has put out.
 

How do we feel about incline walking on the treadmill as cross training/strength training for glutes? I'm thinking of replacing a run day with a strength training day and using an incline walking session as a warmup. One thing this marathon training cycle taught me is that I absolutely have to start strength training.
 
Oh poop!
One of the daughters has a fever and the DW is taking her to the doc tomorrow. I do not have the time to get sick right now! I have trained my butt off for the MCM and can't afford a cold, or the flu, or the C-word!
Auugh!
Thank you for listening.

SAFD: In the meantime, I know that I say that I don't mind training in hot weather, but goodness a cool front makes for nice running. I had a 9 mile run on the greenway Sunday, and managed to average 10:28, even though I was deliberately keeping my pace more around 10:45 for the bulk of the run.
So what happened? I felt so good at mile 8 that I turned up the wick and did the final mile at 9:37, which for me is flying. By the end of the mile, my breathing was ragged (athesma was kicking in), so while my legs are good for it, I'm definitely lung-limited to around 10min miles at best. Still, to go out and do 9 miles, with just a few 50-step walk breaks while downing fuel? Heady stuff for me.

Went and got dinner with the wife afterward and felt fairly good today. So, some recovery needed, but not too much. It does feel good to get into (better) shape. Stay at it.

Thank you for reading.
 
Re: jackets
Unless it’s below 10 or so, I won’t wear a jacket in the rain for the same reasons everyone else mentioned. It’s like being stuck in a sweaty clammy plastic bag. I’ll use a running gilet instead. I have one from New Balance with a windproof/water resistant front and a mesh back. Keeps my core warm while allowing heat to escape.
 
How do we feel about incline walking on the treadmill as cross training/strength training for glutes? I'm thinking of replacing a run day with a strength training day and using an incline walking session as a warmup. One thing this marathon training cycle taught me is that I absolutely have to start strength training.
Walking is a common cross training activity but I wouldn’t count it as strength training.

I suggest doing squats, bridges, and variations of those for actual glute focused strength.
 
Something this crowd may enjoy and appreciate:

I'm on a team call and the ice breaker is trivia.
"What was Disney's original cartoon character?" with the answer of "Oswald the Lucky Rabbit"
A lot of responses of "Oswald? Who/what is that?!"

I reached over my shoulder, pulled my 2022 10K medal off its hook, and held it up to the camera.
 
Oh poop!
One of the daughters has a fever and the DW is taking her to the doc tomorrow. I do not have the time to get sick right now! I have trained my butt off for the MCM and can't afford a cold, or the flu, or the C-word!
Auugh!
Thank you for listening.
It's time to quarantine! Do you have an in-law suite, spare bedroom, basement, garage, cold war bunker? You gotta do what you gotta do!
 
I'm looking for ideas (if it would even be necessary/useful, which is another question to weigh in on) for non-wrist-based tracking. I'm registered to officiate basketball this fall/winter, with games starting November 2nd. I'm trying to figure out how (again, if it would be useful) to measure the amount of activity, and possibly the intensity of this. I'm 99% sure I am not allowed to wear my watch while officiating.

Basically, I want to make sure I don't overdo things in conjunction with dopey training.

I'll be working middle school games, so about an hour each, and 2 games per evening. I'm going to try to limit it to 2 nights per week before January, and then I have the week after MW blocked off for recovery, and figure I'll work as many as they'll schedule me for after that.
 
Re: jackets
Unless it’s below 10 or so, I won’t wear a jacket in the rain for the same reasons everyone else mentioned. It’s like being stuck in a sweaty clammy plastic bag. I’ll use a running gilet instead. I have one from New Balance with a windproof/water resistant front and a mesh back. Keeps my core warm while allowing heat to escape.
I had no idea what a running "gilet" was, so just googled it...it's a vest. Why not call it a vest? Is there a fundamental difference between a vest and gilet, beyond sounding cooler?
 
Something this crowd may enjoy and appreciate:

I'm on a team call and the ice breaker is trivia.
"What was Disney's original cartoon character?" with the answer of "Oswald the Lucky Rabbit"
A lot of responses of "Oswald? Who/what is that?!"

I reached over my shoulder, pulled my 2022 10K medal off its hook, and held it up to the camera.

Love it! #OswaldForever
 
I'm looking for ideas (if it would even be necessary/useful, which is another question to weigh in on) for non-wrist-based tracking. I'm registered to officiate basketball this fall/winter, with games starting November 2nd. I'm trying to figure out how (again, if it would be useful) to measure the amount of activity, and possibly the intensity of this. I'm 99% sure I am not allowed to wear my watch while officiating.

Basically, I want to make sure I don't overdo things in conjunction with dopey training.

I'll be working middle school games, so about an hour each, and 2 games per evening. I'm going to try to limit it to 2 nights per week before January, and then I have the week after MW blocked off for recovery, and figure I'll work as many as they'll schedule me for after that.
HR chest strap connected to your phone? I've never used a chest strap so I don't have specific recommendations, but other people might. Or, is it all watches that aren't allowed or just smartwatches? Maybe a FitBit would work?
 
I had no idea what a running "gilet" was, so just googled it...it's a vest. Why not call it a vest? Is there a fundamental difference between a vest and gilet, beyond sounding cooler?

It's a very common term in cycling. Maybe not so much usage in the US.
 
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Race Report: Chicago Marathon, October 8, 2023

I know the Chicago Marathon is covered so much in social media, a lot of this will be redundant. But I'll tell my story anyway.

General race impressions: This was absolutely the best race experience I have ever had. All 26.2 miles were just wall to wall people screaming encouragement at you the entire time. You really felt like you were part of something. I've never run a world major marathon before so maybe it's the same at all of them, but it was just such a big, well-run race. The expo was full of exhibitors, the race shirt was high quality, it was easy to navigate, all of it.

Race day was a little stressful getting there, because I didn't know the city at all. This was the only part that I personally thought was lacking. The participant guide said to take public transportation, but a little more detailed information about which lines or which stop to take, depending on your gate to the start area, would have been helpful. I got off at Harrison because I was starting toward the back, but most people got off at the stop before mine, and when I emerged onto the street, it was still dark and I had no idea where I was. So I was standing there looking at Google Maps on my phone trying to get my bearings. Some signage or a few volunteers at each stop near there would have gone a long way. My family had a hard time figuring out how to get to the runner reunion area also, there were no signs in the area. Maybe we are just spoiled by runDisney.

Course was amazing, largely because the city is just so impressive. I haven't visited Chicago in over 20 years, and at that time I was living in NYC so it just didn't register for me how big and world-class this city is. Coming back now, it was a different experience. We took the architectural river tour which made it that much better in the race, because I knew what a lot of the buildings were. I love Philadelphia races but this really made Philly feel like a small town, and our marathon a little rinky-dink :oops: I still love Philly but wow this was nice.

They played the Bulls intro music at the start and it occurred to me, this must be like the Rocky music at every event in Philadelphia: a must-play at every start line. Just guessing.

My specific race experience: I've complained on here enough that most people know I had an IT band flare up in my hip that practically erased my peak period of training. I've been nursing it with run/walk/run of various intervals for the past month, building up to 7:30 run/ 0:30 walk. The pain had mostly gone away but came back on my longest runs. Going into the race, I figured I had a 25% chance that it would get bad on-course and I'd have to drop out, a 50% chance that it would flare up and I'd have pain at some point, but I would still finish, and a 25% chance it would be fine.

I decided not to do intervals, per se, at the race, but take a drink at every single water stop and walk to drink. That would be every 1-2 miles and allow me to make sure I'm hydrated. I normally stop every 4 miles or so, and I don't think that has been enough fluids for me. This worked out very well actually and I felt well-fueled the whole time. Not to mention the fact we had very good meals in Chicago leading up to the race.

I was determined not to be drawn into going for any kind of time goal, given my injury. I have half marathons lined up every 6 weeks for the next few months, including Disneyland and Princess, and I didn't want to blow my chances at finishing those by going too crazy here. So I timed my race with my Garmin, but set the watch face to just show time of day. No information about my pace so I don't get in my head. I did hit the lap button at mile markers so I had a general idea of how I was doing every mile, but no info in the moment.

Going along, I had no pain, and at Mile 10 I started thinking to myself, If I can get to Mile 16 before the pain flares up, I can limp in the next 10 miles. Then at mile 16 I thought, if I can get to Mile 18 before the pain flares up, I can limp it in. Than at Mile 18 I thought, ok, just get to 20. 20 miles, no pain. Finally between Mile 20 and 21, I started feeling pain, but it was actually just the other leg, the quad cramping up. Probably due to undertraining generally. So I decided I'll start doing intervals. I started out at 6:30/0:30, but the pain got too bad so I moved to 4:30/0:30, then when that got too bad I went to 2:30/0:30 until the finish. My IT issue never wound up acting up though, so I'm feeling good about that.

My finish time wound up being 4:53:54, which is only 7 minutes off of my PR 2 years ago, when I had a perfect training cycle. I was on track to PR, actually, up until Mile 20 when my quad started acting up, and that was with inserting a lot more walk/drink breaks than usual. I don't know what that means about my current fitness but I'm just happy that I was able to finish at all, let alone another sub-5 hour finish.

I say I'm not going to sign up for many more marathons, but dang this was a good one and I might enter the lottery again. And Chicago was such a great city to visit. Yes, yes, I know I've been complaining about training through the summer, but the weather was perfect race day and maybe that makes up for it!
 












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