~ The Real Housewives of Orange County ~ Season 12~ 2017 ~ JULY 10th

What the heck was Alexis wearing when Lydia came over?? I think Lydia is starting to see what the others see in Alexis. In fact i think she may have even said "Now I know why the others don't like her." I think Alexis tries to hard. I know someone who is very much like her. She's not very intelligent so the only things she talks about are material things.
 
I still like Heather. I think she just CANNOT stand Alexis, especially after the party when her friend snuck a piece of the cake and caused a ruckus.

That was hilarious. She ate a BOW off MY CAKE :eek:

Seriously, I can understand why Tamra would have some beef against Alexis but when Gretchen was being trashed by Tamra and Vicki, Alexis was her friend and then seemed to be dropped when Tamra was able to sit at the cool kids table. As for Heather, Alexis does some passive aggressive things but so does Heather (mentioning Alexis's ring). They are the Passive-Aggressive Queens.
 
Halfway through tonight's program, I just lost interest in the whole thing. Returned to watch Vicky change a diaper. Also not exciting.
 

I was rolling my eyes at the whole discussion of bullying. However, I don't know how you can call it anything else when they gossip about Alexis constantly, talk negatively about her on Heather's radio show (not using her name, just the topic), and make fun of her in other ways, like calling her "Jesus jugs". I would agree she is annoying at times, and needs to take a look in the mirror to see the cause of a lot of her problems, but the "popular girls" are definitely using their "safety in numbers" security to tear Alexis apart. I know most of it is played up for ratings, but I would never subject myself to the likes of any of those "women" who act more like middle schoolers. And Heather's husband is just as bad. He is the last person I would seek out if I ever felt the need to get plastic surgery. I am really surprised he would think that being on the show will help his business.
 
I'm new to this show. I've seen bits and pieces over the last 2 seasons. I knew who Vicki was and that's about it.

These women are so whacko---every last one of them! Actually, Lydia seems to be the one right now with her head screwed on *better*.

Gretchen seems to me to be the worst. What a mouthy, well, woman. Tamra is a nutcase. I hope this is all just about ratings and trying to make their show exciting because this really is middle school behavior from all of them.

I can't get past the way Heather talks to her crazy husband. He seems to try way too hard to be funny and fit in. She then rips him a new one and he plays dumb. As a PP said, no way would I ever go to him after seeing him on this show or seeing how they interact.

Vicki seems like a middle aged hot mess. That Brooks guy creeps me out. I know I sympathize with her daughter over not liking mom's new BF (I can't stand the *man* my mom was seeing) but the daughter's husband is over the top with the cameras and such.

Alexis...I'm not sure what to think of her. Right now, she's just a whiner and complainer to me. I did like the fact that Lydia called her on her actions. If she is going to be on National TV and proclaim her Christianity, it is good to see someone hold her accountable in some way.

Anyway, I'm sure my thoughts will evolve throughout the series...but Tamra's actions at the dinner party/blessing of the building were just nutty angry. What a hotheaded woman! And, I thought it was interesting how she remarked about Vicki around Alexis and how she acted differently. Who acted differently??? Tamra was much nicer to Vicki when they went to dinner alone than when she had Gretchen and Heather with her---they seemed to make her much more mouthy and ballsy at that dinner. Alexis went because Tamra said she could come. Alexis should have stayed home but for the show (I'm sure) and maybe for making peace she went and seemed supportive. Tamra probably would not have acted like that if her posse was not there backing her up. I think she would have been more gracious as a host.

These women seem to have no class to me.
 
I'm willing to bet Tamra's daughter will grow up to be a "mean girl" in school. My daughter goes to school with a girl who has developed into a mean girl. I went to high school with her mother and guess what.....she was the meanest of them all! What is she teaching her children?
 
So true about Tamra's daughter! I sure hope none of the kids of these women (with the exception of Vicki who has adult children) ever watch this show. Talk about NOT leading by example. :rotfl:
 
I'm willing to bet Tamra's daughter will grow up to be a "mean girl" in school. My daughter goes to school with a girl who has developed into a mean girl. I went to high school with her mother and guess what.....she was the meanest of them all! What is she teaching her children?

Thankfully, they have one parent to protect them. Simon refuses to allow the children on the show. I don't think, they are allowed to mention the kids (in a specific manner) either.

Tamra is toxic. I'd feel sorry for Eddie, if he wasn't a homewrecker and a backstabber. He deserves everything he gets.
 
Tamara has some serious anger issues. Who screams like that? I can't believe Vicki did not get up when she was told to "pick a side". Heather made a great point about how Vicki must be committed to mending the friendship by staying. I thought it was cute how Heather was trying to get her daughter to say different words in the car.

I hated that Vicki kept calling Gretchen stupid. I think it makes Vicki look ridiculous and she should know that Gretchen was just trying to get a rise out of her. Oh, and look, it worked. And it's pathetic that Gretchen said anything because she knew what Vicki meant but I understand the animosity she has towards Vicki.

I don't think Alexis is being bullied. The other ladies were trying to point out a negative characteristic which she was not receptive to hearing about and it all snow balled. It would have been better/nicer if it was done differently but this is Real Housewives & Bravo. If it was going to be all nice and sweet, it wouldn't be on TV. But the million dollar question, if Alexis really feels like a victim here, WHY COME BACK? Alexis herself said something to that effect last night but of course, had no answer. I enjoyed watching Lydia point that out to Alexis.

I think it's funny that Michael won't tell Vicki where he lives. Ryan sounded a little over the top with cameras and security but he must have had Vicki's blessing because it is her house. Brianne blogged this week - she described the living arrangement. They all agreed to x,y and z. If Vicki wants to change it, Brianne would happily move out. No grudges. She appears to be level headed so I tend to believe her and think Vicki is just agreeing with who ever she speaks with, in this instance, her brother.
 
I think you described most of those lades with that sentence :confused3.

Good point. I don't really like any of them. But that doesn't change my feeling that Alexis is moron for going back over and over for abuse from the other women.
 
Vicki is the one that drives me crazy. SHe is so friggin dramatic and lives in a wierd reality.
 
Omg.... Alexis is soooo annoying! Always the victim. The way she yelled at the Lydia after she said that people kill themselves over bullying was ridiculous. "Yeah well I had to take Zanex Lydia!" Give me a break. Not even comparable.

I actually kind of like Lydia so far! Lol
 
Did Vicki just say she didn't agree with what Tamra did to Slade???

She was the one who hated Slade the MOST!

Vicki is a pot stirrer this season. She's taking the high road? Apparently that means being friends with people she couldn't stand before because her old ones got tired of her B.S. She's trying to be the head mean girl in her new little clique.

(Btw... I post from my phone as I watch at work so I do multiple ones! Sorry!)
 
Haha! Lydia says, "I can see why they don't like her."

I really like her this episode!!!

I feel a little bad that Vicki's family keep brining up Don. It's her life, she's what? In her late 40's? She's a big girl.
 
I also thought it was strange that Vic brought up Slade. She was one of the people who could not stand Slade and was very vocal about how much she disliked him and what she thought of him.

I think Vic has changed this season though. I think she is trying to get along with everyone and not take sides.
 
Tamra is flat out the mean girl and definitely has anger issues. She thinks she does absolutely nothing wrong, ever. I would never want to be her "friend" because she doesn't know how to be a friend. It's her way or the highway. I think Heather is very controlling with everyone. I actually like Alexis. I don't think she's the "dumb blonde". She's portrayed that way, but the reality is, she has been ganged up on multiple times.
 
I'm willing to bet Tamra's daughter will grow up to be a "mean girl" in school. My daughter goes to school with a girl who has developed into a mean girl. I went to high school with her mother and guess what.....she was the meanest of them all! What is she teaching her children?

I am around some mean women unfortunately (not by choice) and yes, their daughters are JUST like them.

Tamra is flat out the mean girl and definitely has anger issues. She thinks she does absolutely nothing wrong, ever. I would never want to be her "friend" because she doesn't know how to be a friend. It's her way or the highway. I think Heather is very controlling with everyone. I actually like Alexis. I don't think she's the "dumb blonde". She's portrayed that way, but the reality is, she has been ganged up on multiple times.

I agree, Tamra is just nasty. All of them are just so classless the way they speak to one another and behave. It's ridiculous. Honestly they just seem so trashy. I must live a very sheltered life if THAT is how grown women live their lives. :sad2:

I find it very interesting how Gretchen turned on Alexis. I'm a very loyal friend and clearly these women are not.
 
I saw this quote on facebook and immediately thought of the wonderful housewives of OC during their dinner party

"Manners are a sensitive awareness of the feelings of others. If you have that awareness, you have good manners, no matter what fork you use." ~Emily Post
:thumbsup2
 






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