Robinrs. ..i still disagree. You are saying, "my facts", as if they are bits of information I made up. The facts I cite are absolutely truths. ..they have happened, they are truths. And, when I discover, or find out truths, they may sway my opinion--since I like to have as much data as possible regarding world and current events. When I hear people bemoaning the false 'fact' that "bush lied'', I get concerned that they might base their conclusions on erroneous information--since the truth is, Bush hasn't lied once about this war or the reasons we went to war. The media and the liberal democrats (noticeably not Zell Miller, Ed Koch and Joe Lieberman) scream loudly regarding information that has been proven false. The absolute truth is Bush didn't lie. . .and, if you read my posts, you'll see why this is the truth. So, I hope to be able to at least enlighten the people who are truly seeking the truth. I realize that in this completely divided era, it is difficult to find the truth, since 'trusted' politicians and our supposedly 'objective' media are usually not Bush lovers.
I know I base my opinions on factual information, not just how I feel. I like to know the truth and the full story before I form an opinion and definitely before I share it with others. Subsequently, I find the rhetoric regarding Bush so disturbing. It is often filled with "bush lied", "bush is hitler', "bush is evil", etc. When pressed, as has been the case on this board, people seem to ignore the issues.
My husband's father is a Democrat because he's always been a Democrat. He didn't know about the weapons that had been found, because he didn't read it in the local paper. He's not web-saavy, and he gets his information from this one paper and his local news broadcast. When my husband told him of the weapons that had been found, and how the most of the media hadn't even reported it, he was stunned. He wants the truth, but didn't have accurate information. Isn't this what debate is all about? Now he knows the truth because we send him articles, we discuss information with him. Now, when he casts his vote, he'll cast it with full knowledge of what is really going on. He might still vote Democrat, but at least he has the information. Personally, I think he's leaning to Bush.
Facts mean everything to my perception of the issues. Empty opinions, based on a vocal percentage of people who completely loathe our president mean nothing. . .since, when completely pressed, they either capitulate, they either ignore whatever point you are pointedly asking them, or they cite moral relavitism. And, it's really hard to discuss anything with a moral relativist, because they can't even cite that Hitler was wrong. And, I've tried to have discussions with them. . ."Was Hitler wrong?" and they answer, "Well, who can say. . . he thought what he was doing was right'. . .
To me, that's moronic.
ThreeCircles: No, not like Osama Bin Laden. You are a relativist. This is what I mean. Osama bin Laden adheres to a religion that tells their adherents that killing non-Muslims will get them to Heaven. . .and, if they're a man, will get them 72 Virgins. So, if you consider Christianity equivalent to Islam, maybe you'd have a point. But, they are obviously not anything alike. Also, even if you find me points in either the Hebrew Scriptures or the New Testament that approve of things we don't agree with, we still don't preach those parts as things to follow anymore. In Islamic countries, the most revered scholars preach hatred and death daily. This is in the mainstream for them. Again , check out
www.memri.org for direct translations of arabic newscasts and articles. This is an elementary argument.
totalia--If you go back and read all the posts, you'll see that to continue to say, "bush lied" would be a futile declaration. Bush didn't lie. . .read my posts, please. Also, Bush went to Yale and Harvard. He also is a trained fighter pilot. You might not need to be smart to get through Harvard and Yale--I've known several people who are not. . .but, I really haven't met any imbecilic fighter pilots. The training is rigorous and challenging, and impossible to get through if you're an idiot. That argument just doesn't fly, and it's the standard argument that has been used for 20 years by liberals. People said the same thing about Reagan, and clearly (read his letters), he was not a moron. Furthermore, Totalia, that's cute--the whole y'all thing regarding the tax breaks, but that is a completely separate issue. Stay with the facts, uh huh. Everything you have stated has already been covered in previous posts.
Obliterating common sense public schooling? You mean by increasing spending for public schools?
