KimMcGowan
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Actually, I just looked at the 2023 charts and I think Poly weekly rates are routinely a tiny bit higher than the Grand. I will admit that I didn’t know what I was talking about and was wrong.
So assuming they do a reasonable job and Poly2 is a nice resort, what would you consider a fair point chart? I'm not trying to argue I'm seriously asking. You realize Poly already matches VGF's chart for studios right? In fact it exceeds it for parts of the year. Do people consider it exorbitant? I honestly don't know, but I haven't heard many complaints about it.The Grand is the flagship resort - or it is supposed to be. As such, it should reflect that by having the highest point chart. In fact, that is part of the reason the Riviera has such high points cost, they wanted it to be the Grand Floridian of the EPCOT area. So, if the Poly matches GF it would be exorbitant.
Ha I didn't see this before I replied, so ignore my other replyActually, I just looked at the 2023 charts and I think Poly weekly rates are routinely a tiny bit higher than the Grand. I will admit that I didn’t know what I was talking about and was wrong.
No worries, I was the dork that didn’t know what I was talking about. I will admit that I am a bit surprised that Poly is routinely higher than GF. Yes, I think most people do think the Poly chart is fairly high (I obviously am fine with it since I own thereHa I didn't see this before I replied, so ignore my other reply
Yeah it's safe to assume the chart will be at VGF level (at least). I wish it weren't because I really want to buy into Poly2, as long as it turns out as nice as we hope it does. But that kind of point chart is a bit scary
I thought about this too, getting to the monorail looks like a hike... and it isn't getting it's own bus stop either? (at least I thought that was mentioned). That's an even bigger hike to the buses..."Monorail resort" in the sense that if you walk past the other longhouses in the rain to the GCH you can grab the monorail. At least VGF is a covered walkway. I think it will end up having pods for fewer points than PVB studios and really expensive 1/2/3 BR -that are total point hogs costing more than 2 joining PVB studios.
Yes, IF it’s the same association, I agree this would be the strategy."Monorail resort" in the sense that if you walk past the other longhouses in the rain to the GCH you can grab the monorail. At least VGF is a covered walkway. I think it will end up having pods for fewer points than PVB studios and really expensive 1/2/3 BR -that are total point hogs costing more than 2 joining PVB studios.
I thought about this too, getting to the monorail looks like a hike... and it isn't getting it's own bus stop either? (at least I thought that was mentioned). That's an even bigger hike to the buses...
Even if it's sep. I think they'll match studios in terms of points, unless they come up with a "theme park view" category. Anyone know why the current poly didn't have "theme park view"? The second and third floor of moorea facing the lake have great views of the castle. The sky is the limit for the 1 and 2 bedrooms though. It will be interesting if they continue the pod/tower studio concept. We just started taking adult trips so the rooms for 2 have an appeal now that I didn't recognize before.
Maybe it was just discussion in a thread then… I would hope it has it’s own stop.I have not read anything yet about a bus stop.
The site plan on DVC news and other sites doesn’t show a bus stop at all. In fact, it doesn’t look like there is even room for one. In fact, if you look at a map of the resort the new building looks to be roughly the same distance from the GCH as the Moorea building. I think there probably will not be a new bus stop. Now, the placement of the current bus stop area would mean that it is twice as close to the original DVC buildings- so it will be a walk to get there from 2.Maybe it was just discussion in a thread then… I would hope it has it’s own stop.
Given the current state of things, if they do this, they are going to have a tough time selling it out anytime soon. There’s a reason the resale market is crashing right now.Happy New Year everyone!!!
In the spirit of New Year's predictions, here are mine for Poly2...
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1. Four 3BR Grand Villas and dedicated 2BRs on the top two floors. The rest will be 2BR lock-offs, and maybe (hopefully) a handful of value studios similar to AKV's value studios or Riviera's tower studios.
2. It will be a separate association with restrictions.
3. The points chart will be high... very high. A deluxe studio may start near 200 points per week and go to over 300. That's why I think they will need some sort of value studios.
4. Dining options will offer a lounge with an inside section and an outside/pool area section, a quick service restaurant, and a Dole Whip stand like the Pineapple Lanai. I do not see them doing a table service restaurant due to the limited space.
5. Minimum add-on contract size of 50 points, maybe even 75 points, because a 2-night weekend stay at a deluxe studio may require 70+ points.
6. Direct Pricing will be high, with limited discounts below 300 points. Since direct pricing will most likely go up again twice before Poly2 goes on sale, look for a $240-250 per point starting price.
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I hope I am wrong on some of these, but only time will tell... lol
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My thought are the points for a studio in Poly 2 will be the same as Poly 1 but not as big or have a split bathroom like Poly 1. They can do whatever they want with the 1BR, 2BR , and 3BR since Ploy 1 doesn't have them.
You forgot the possibility that the move the bus stop from near PVB 1 and relocating it to near PVB2 if it is a separate organization. They have PVB1 sold so " they have our money"The site plan on DVC news and other sites doesn’t show a bus stop at all. In fact, it doesn’t look like there is even room for one. In fact, if you look at a map of the resort the new building looks to be roughly the same distance from the GCH as the Moorea building. I think there probably will not be a new bus stop. Now, the placement of the current bus stop area would mean that it is twice as close to the original DVC buildings- so it will be a walk to get there from 2.
Do you think it is possible that they have a new bus stop between Poly 2 and the GF? That might be a solution.
They could put 8 value rooms - that ruse helped sell AKLI expect to see an efficiency room, like the RIV tower studio. DL tower has them also. This is the room used for the advertising and the math. You know, 40% SAVINGS, that kind of thing. There don't have to be a lot of them, and their points can change over time.
You forgot the possibility that the move the bus stop from near PVB 1 and relocating it to near PVB2 if it is a separate organization. They have PVB1 sold so " they have our money"
You forgot the possibility that the move the bus stop from near PVB 1 and relocating it to near PVB2 if it is a separate organization. They have PVB1 sold so " they have our money"
To be honest the bus for VGF is just as far but it is covered.