The Official 2013 Wine and Dine Half Marathon Thread

[Kat73]

Wow Kristenrice sounds like a scary run, glad you're ok!!

My run was also SUPER hot and much more hilly than I'm used to. OK, I'm used to flat, but whatever LOL. I went for the scenic different location today.

But first, the fun news. NEW SHOES! I broke down and went out for a new pair. I'm not sure I'll be back to the place I bought them from, after reflecting on the comments and advice I was given, but ultimately I feel comfortable in the pair I got.

My former shoes were Brooks Dyads and while they've been great to me, they were really beat up and it was time to move on. I love the stability they give me but needed maybe a bit less, and more cushioning/ toe room.

New shoes? New Balance 860 v3. Turns out? They are the same exact type as these: http://wdwinfo.com/images/1200-rundisney-new-balance-1.jpg
So now I'm all wondering how long it's going to be before I'm on this train of crazy people trying to get a pair of these at the expo.

The version I got are silver, dark blue and turquoise. My favorite colors! I'm going to dub them my Cookie Monster shoes. Not a fan of the ugly laces but that's easily enough remedied.


My run today: I did 8 last week so this was supposed to be a shorter run. My goal was 5 miles in an hour. Instead with the heat, the sun, and my stupid nike app shutting off on me I got 2.75 in 40 minutes. I decided to call it a day and that was enough to break in the new kicks. I'm going to try heading out again Monday for another go at five in one

 

[heyitsmejosh]

did 7 miles today even though i was only supposed to do 6.5 could have kept going too but i stopped myself

 

[Figment1990]

Wow Kristenrice sounds like a scary run, glad you're ok!!

My run was also SUPER hot and much more hilly than I'm used to. OK, I'm used to flat, but whatever LOL. I went for the scenic different location today.

But first, the fun news. NEW SHOES! I broke down and went out for a new pair. I'm not sure I'll be back to the place I bought them from, after reflecting on the comments and advice I was given, but ultimately I feel comfortable in the pair I got.

My former shoes were Brooks Dyads and while they've been great to me, they were really beat up and it was time to move on. I love the stability they give me but needed maybe a bit less, and more cushioning/ toe room.

New shoes? New Balance 860 v3. Turns out? They are the same exact type as these: http://wdwinfo.com/images/1200-rundisney-new-balance-1.jpg
So now I'm all wondering how long it's going to be before I'm on this train of crazy people trying to get a pair of these at the expo.

The version I got are silver, dark blue and turquoise. My favorite colors! I'm going to dub them my Cookie Monster shoes. Not a fan of the ugly laces but that's easily enough remedied.

My run today: I did 8 last week so this was supposed to be a shorter run. My goal was 5 miles in an hour. Instead with the heat, the sun, and my stupid nike app shutting off on me I got 2.75 in 40 minutes. I decided to call it a day and that was enough to break in the new kicks. I'm going to try heading out again Monday for another go at five in one

Yay for new shoes! I didn't think I'd transfer my love for shoe shopping for beautiful 4-in heels to running shoes but somehow I did!

Just wanted to say that there is no shame in doing your own research and trying on a million pairs on your own in a non-running specific store. I wasn't thrilled w my running store experience either and so now I spend a bunch of time reading shoe reviews and trying shoes on myself and I've had much more success this way.

Good luck on your 5 miler.

 

[zgirls]

Glad to see everyone enjoying new shoes. I found a pair of brooks that I like and wait until the new version comes out then jump online and buy 3 pair of the older version, typically for half the price. I hate that they change versions every year. So far I have been lucky and I still like them. This latest version has worn out much earlier than normal an I may have to buy a full price shoe in next few months

It is so inspiring to read about everyone's training, good and bad. We all have ups and downs during training so it is nice to see we are
all going through same things.

My training has been poor as of late. First I tweaked a hamstring, then I gained 10 pounds at a musikfest with lots of great bands and even better food and beer. I attended 7 of 10 days ad at the end had a sprint triathlon to run - didn't plan this out very well. The race went fine, even with the additional 10pounds, I was only 2 minutes slower overall than last year. The bigger issue was the additional aches and pains from carrying the extra pounds.
Overall, my training for the after party is complete and I am slowly getting back to focused and consistent training for the actual run.
Keep on training.

 

[Livvys]

Got a 7.56 mile run in this am... It was the usual hot and humid disgustingness that is south Florida weather in August... It wasn't pretty, but it's done. 13:30 mile average pace. I cannot wait for some cooler weather!!!

 

[jce2]

Best of luck! I think we live in the same area. I can't decide if it is going to be awesome or awful to trade off the Colorado altitude for the Florida humidity for our Disney races.

It was an awesome event! I actually thought my time was worse than normal as my shins kept hurting, forcing me to walk a bit to recover, but lo and behold when I got to the end my time was 43:45!! TYhe color blasts just added to the fun. I will definitely be signing up for more of these in Colorado. As for altitude vs. humidity, I am banking on altitude being the difference.
One disappointment from yesterday: I chose to run with out sneakers and my big toe managed to but a small hole out of the top of my sneakers. Hopefully as long as I wear socks the hole won't get bigger before disney. I doubt Dick's would exchange the sneakers seeing as how they are covered in colored corn starch.

 

[Kat73]

Yay for new shoes! I didn't think I'd transfer my love for shoe shopping for beautiful 4-in heels to running shoes but somehow I did!

Just wanted to say that there is no shame in doing your own research and trying on a million pairs on your own in a non-running specific store. I wasn't thrilled w my running store experience either and so now I spend a bunch of time reading shoe reviews and trying shoes on myself and I've had much more success this way.

Good luck on your 5 miler.

Thanks! Yeah the longer I run the more I feel like I know what I'm looking for and what it feels like, so the confusing commentary by the "shoe expert" really doesn't mean as much. All throughout she and another lady kept looking at my old Brooks Dyads and saying "Wow, I really don't know why they put you in those". When all was said and done, I asked her personal opinion on what I should look for in the future in a good pair of shoes. Just to hear her take. Her response? "The Dyads." I was like...


So Day after the not-so-great run in the fantastic new shoes and my legs feel pretty good! No major issues to kink out. Here's hoping I have the gumption to get up before the heat tomorrow and give them a real test!

 

[Figment1990]

Glad to see everyone enjoying new shoes. I found a pair of brooks that I like and wait until the new version comes out then jump online and buy 3 pair of the older version, typically for half the price. I hate that they change versions every year. So far I have been lucky and I still like them. This latest version has worn out much earlier than normal an I may have to buy a full price shoe in next few months

It is so inspiring to read about everyone's training, good and bad. We all have ups and downs during training so it is nice to see we are
all going through same things.

My training has been poor as of late. First I tweaked a hamstring, then I gained 10 pounds at a musikfest with lots of great bands and even better food and beer. I attended 7 of 10 days ad at the end had a sprint triathlon to run - didn't plan this out very well. The race went fine, even with the additional 10pounds, I was only 2 minutes slower overall than last year. The bigger issue was the additional aches and pains from carrying the extra pounds.
Overall, my training for the after party is complete and I am slowly getting back to focused and consistent training for the actual run.
Keep on training.

Thanks for posting this. I had a not great 6 miler last night and your post reminded me of some of the potential things I can change to try to not have to repeat that. First, I too have done a little too much "after party training" lately. It's back to school for my son at the end of the week and I've been living it up lately as if once summer is over, so is any and all "fun." Lots of social plans and way too much food and drink. I've gained about 5 pounds in the last month which wiped out all of my really hard dieting work from the early summer. Stupid me, I know. But not only did the bad food and drink make me feel sluggish on my run yesterday, your post reminded me that my body feels less pains when I weigh less. So back to healthy habits it is!

Part of my run misery is that my bad knee is acting up - started after my run. I know I ran too fast. I really need to slow down and not care about time on the long runs. Easier said than done.... My 10k time was 1:13, and I'm not even sure that will move me up in corral more than a 2:45 half would place me so am I killing myself for nothing? I'm not so worried for the wine and dine but is like to start the princess as early as possible to minimize time run after the sun is up. Anyone else have the problem of pushing themselves too fast and getting hurt when they should be running a "long slow" pace?

 

[PlutoBaby]

Thanks for posting this. I had a not great 6 miler last night and your post reminded me of some of the potential things I can change to try to not have to repeat that. First, I too have done a little too much "after party training" lately. It's back to school for my son at the end of the week and I've been living it up lately as if once summer is over, so is any and all "fun." Lots of social plans and way too much food and drink. I've gained about 5 pounds in the last month which wiped out all of my really hard dieting work from the early summer. Stupid me, I know. But not only did the bad food and drink make me feel sluggish on my run yesterday, your post reminded me that my body feels less pains when I weigh less. So back to healthy habits it is!

Part of my run misery is that my bad knee is acting up - started after my run. I know I ran too fast. I really need to slow down and not care about time on the long runs. Easier said than done.... My 10k time was 1:13, and I'm not even sure that will move me up in corral more than a 2:45 half would place me so am I killing myself for nothing? I'm not so worried for the wine and dine but is like to start the princess as early as possible to minimize time run after the sun is up. Anyone else have the problem of pushing themselves too fast and getting hurt when they should be running a "long slow" pace?

Uh, YEAH! I think that, combined with too much mileage too soon, is what led to all my ITBS problems over the past year. So far, I've been crawling along at increasing the mileage since I started running again in June and so far so good. Plus, I think being better with the exercises, stretching, EMS, chiro, and massage therapy, and me just running smarter, is making a difference. I'm always going to have some pain since I think there's a bit or arthritis in there, but I can manage that. But there is just no diminishing the IT pain once it sets in. AND I just jumped on the new shoe bandwagon too! Hooked myself up with another pair of Saucony Triumph 10's as I definitely need all the cushioning I can get. The inaugural run will be tomorrow night and I expect it will be !

For everyone suffering injuries right now, if you happened to be on last year's W&D thread, right about this time through November, the conversations were all about everyone's ailments. So don't feel like you're all alone. Welcome to the start of the WHine and Dine portion of our program! But have no fear, as the DIS are here for you!

 

[PlutoBaby]

82 days!!!!!

 

[pix13dust]

82 days!!!!!

Ahhhhh!!! That seems too soon! I'm not ready.

 

[funnybunny921]

did 7 miles today even though i was only supposed to do 6.5 could have kept going too but i stopped myself

my DH and I did 7 on sunday - in fact with warm up and cool down it was 7.5, I felt the best i have felt doing a long run. I am learning more on when to fuel how to fuel and to listening to my body to avoid dehydration

the only bad thing about the last run - I had some major skin chafing pretty painful, but easily remedied fro the next run

 

[Ariel484]

I did a 9-mile long run on Saturday (18 miles total last week) - my first long run in probably 3 weeks and while the last 3 miles were tough (and mile 9 was slightly painful) I felt sooooo great when I was done. I feel like I am finally out of vacation mode (and have lost the pounds I gained on vacation ) and am back into a training mindset...great timing since I'm going on a cruise in a couple of weeks. I am super terrified to come back from that cruise, like, 10 pounds heavier. I mean, it's free food all the time! I have half marathons scheduled for 9/28 and 10/6 so hopefully I'll keep that in mind and be able to avoid Eye Scream on the Dream for the most part. I am definitely planning on running the Castaway Cay 5K so at least I know I'll get one run in.

ALSO...I made up a little training plan for my husband to start training for the Jingle Jungle 5K! He's a teacher and also coaches tennis so he's back to school this week and will start pulling 12-14 hour days, so for now we're shooting for 2 days of running per week. I'd really like him to do 3 but this is more realistic for him until tennis season is over. I feel like it's better to have 2 days per week right now rather than 3 just so if he doesn't get the 3rd run in he doesn't feel guilty or whatever. Tennis is over the first week of October so he'll start 3 days per week then. He's super nervous but I know he'll be fine...he's one of *those* people that's in naturally good shape so he'll pick it up quickly. I just hope he enjoys the 5K. This will be his first race, at Disney or otherwise.

Glad to see everyone enjoying new shoes. I found a pair of brooks that I like and wait until the new version comes out then jump online and buy 3 pair of the older version, typically for half the price. I hate that they change versions every year. So far I have been lucky and I still like them. This latest version has worn out much earlier than normal an I may have to buy a full price shoe in next few months

It is so inspiring to read about everyone's training, good and bad. We all have ups and downs during training so it is nice to see we are
all going through same things.

My training has been poor as of late. First I tweaked a hamstring, then I gained 10 pounds at a musikfest with lots of great bands and even better food and beer. I attended 7 of 10 days ad at the end had a sprint triathlon to run - didn't plan this out very well. The race went fine, even with the additional 10pounds, I was only 2 minutes slower overall than last year. The bigger issue was the additional aches and pains from carrying the extra pounds.
Overall, my training for the after party is complete and I am slowly getting back to focused and consistent training for the actual run.
Keep on training.

Thanks for posting this. I had a not great 6 miler last night and your post reminded me of some of the potential things I can change to try to not have to repeat that. First, I too have done a little too much "after party training" lately. It's back to school for my son at the end of the week and I've been living it up lately as if once summer is over, so is any and all "fun." Lots of social plans and way too much food and drink. I've gained about 5 pounds in the last month which wiped out all of my really hard dieting work from the early summer. Stupid me, I know. But not only did the bad food and drink make me feel sluggish on my run yesterday, your post reminded me that my body feels less pains when I weigh less. So back to healthy habits it is!

Part of my run misery is that my bad knee is acting up - started after my run. I know I ran too fast. I really need to slow down and not care about time on the long runs. Easier said than done.... My 10k time was 1:13, and I'm not even sure that will move me up in corral more than a 2:45 half would place me so am I killing myself for nothing? I'm not so worried for the wine and dine but is like to start the princess as early as possible to minimize time run after the sun is up. Anyone else have the problem of pushing themselves too fast and getting hurt when they should be running a "long slow" pace?

Isn't it crazy how much a weight gain can affect you? I definitely gained a few pounds on vacation over the last week of July. I think it's gone for the most part, but I hated how sluggish I felt over the last couple of weeks.

Figment1990 - do you do any strength training? If you do some air squats that may really help your knees out. It does for me! And yes, pacing on long runs is definitely something I struggle with - I find I don't feel too hot for the first 0.5-1 miles of my run but then once I'm warmed up I feel GREAT and it's hard to stay at the long, slow pace. And then I pay for it over the last couple of miles, of course. You are definitely not alone!

82 days!!!!!

AHHH SQUEEEEEE!

my DH and I did 7 on sunday - in fact with warm up and cool down it was 7.5, I felt the best i have felt doing a long run. I am learning more on when to fuel how to fuel and to listening to my body to avoid dehydration

the only bad thing about the last run - I had some major skin chafing pretty painful, but easily remedied fro the next run

Ugh, chafing is the worst. I hope you figure something out for that.

 

[Hk331]

Hi everyone, It's so exciting to hear of all the awesome training going on!

But I need a moment to vent/seek advice...
Sorry for the long post.

A little back story about myself: For years I have sat on the couch dreaming of becoming a runner but somehow in the end I always convince myself that it would be too hard or impossible. I'm not the lightest girl in town being 60lbs over weight with previous attempts at weight loss lasting no more than a little over a month.

Back in January of this year, my sister (also a running dreaming couch potato) looked at me and said "Hey! Lets combine our love for Disney and DO THIS run!!!" At first I was extremely intimidated and said I'd have to think about it. About a week later, after hours and hours of running research (including this very forum) I went back to her and said YES, Lets do this! I can't remember the exact person who said it but the Idea of "Did not Finish is better than Did not start" really hit home! - so thank you mystery Diser!

My first steps on a treadmill were exciting, but very slow lol. My pace for 3.2 miles was 25:34. We had no clue what we needed to do for training but we were having a blast at the very idea of just doing it! About two weeks into "training" I went back to the web and spent at least a week looking for the perfect 5k training plan. We both decided that we liked Galloway, so we took his plan and ran with it! (Pun completely intended lol)

About a month into Galloway's training plan, my sister partially ruptured her Achilles. This couldn't have been more devastating but on the bright side the Dr. said it was still attached and she could run again after wearing a boot and physical therapy for a month. Also during this month of training, my Best Friend joined us on our quest and began training with us as well.My sister assured me that she wanted nothing more in the world than to see me cross the finish line at the Wine and Dine and gave me her blessing to continue my training without her, and that she would be back to hitting the pavement before I knew it! So, I continued to train with my BFF while my sister recovered.

Fast forward to Today, I'm 15lbs lighter, my average pace for my last long run 6.94 miles was 16:36 pace! Major improvement from 25:34 average pace! And after almost 7 Months of training 3-4 times a week (bear in mind that this is the longest I have EVER worked out consistently) My first 5K race was upon us.

My sister is back to running and but refuses to let me run with her because her pace is 19:00 and doesn't want to slow me down in my training. (she is considering differing her bib to next year). We've sometimes trained in a parking lot running in a giant circle so we can kind of train together by still being able to see each other no matter our different paces: yelling at each other "you go girl! yahoo! Great job! Don't let this circle beat you!" My BBF is much lighter than I, has a bit of a better athletic base and can run 14:54 minute miles. She will also be running the Wine and Dine. My BFF is also very new to running and stated she does not want to run the half solo because it's Disney and she wanted nothing more than to be sharing the experience running side by side with me! I of course was all for it and couldn't agree more.

Back to the 5k, Which was yesterday. I was completely excited!! My FIRST race EVER!! I was doing it!! my dream! Getting my butt off that couch and was there, with my bib and all!! Going into the race, after reading and reading and reading about first timers and newbie experiences, I knew I was going to go too hard out of the starting line, I knew that walkers were going to pass me, I knew that getting to the finish line was the ONLY goal, no time, no matter this was a fun run!

But what I didn't plan for was my bff to after mile one, treat me like a dirt.

It all started at mile one, I was going my usual pace, when my bff started to really speed up. I mention to her that ummm, you're a little fast lol can you walk with me or I might just die and my legs will fall off lol . Bare in mind that I'm referencing from 7 months of training with her where she kept stating there was nothing more she wanted to do than to run these together, to finish together. So I thought to my self the adrenaline of the race is making her walk fast and she just doesn't know so I mentioned it.

She started to huff and puff, like she was upset. I let it go for .2 miles as she kept walking faster and faster. I took a moment and asked her, is everything okay? She huffed some more and stated to me in that I'm completely disappointed in you right now kind of way, and sharply said "I don't even feel like I'm training" then huffed some more, looked away then stated sharply "Don't worry I'll get over it!"

I was shocked, and wish I had thought to plan for this scenario! I already was playing the mental game a newbie does in a race, (omg people are passing me walking! I feel unprepared, even though I wasn't. Should I slow down!?!?!) All those kind of things. I was doing a pretty great job dealing with it... until then. I wanted to cry! My training partner of 6 and a half months, in the middle of my very first race, lets me know I'm disappointing her, that I'm unbearably slow, that she can't bear to run at this pace, that she'll "get over" this race she does not feel like she's training in.

I looked at her and told her to go ahead, she glanced back and said "are you sure!" My thought: If we continue to run together, I might just cry and quit mid race. so I said, yes, you can go. and off She Happily went.

It took till mile 2 that I gathered my thoughts and said "Just finish, Just finish, just finish." Then my right foot went numb lol, it was hot and clearly my shoe laces were too tight, I pulled over and loosened them but I don't think it was enough as it came and went throughout the rest of the race.

I got to the finish line and did it... but I did not feel excited. It was horrible, I felt fat and slow and unaccomplished. I felt that the Wine and Dine was just now a distant dream. I had completely convinced my self that if my training partner thought I wasn't good enough, than I must not be. I couldn't cry about it because, well lets face it my parents were there to cheer me on and I didn't want them to know. I put on my medal.... and didnt even want it.

I guess right now I'm just lost. Do I have the strength to run/train alone? Do I want to continue with my BFF and take the chance that on race day she reminds me of how slow I am. I just.... have been crying ever since. This race, this training, this whole experience meant so much to me, that is just hurt more than I could have imagined to have my first race experience be that.

It's just happened yesterday and my thoughts are all over the place, I'm sure at some point I will look back and think about how silly I was to let that get to me.

But right now, I guess I just needed a place to get this off my chest, even if no one reads this insanely long post, it feels good to say these things out loud. (or to type it out lol)

 

[Kat73]

Hi everyone, It's so exciting to hear of all the awesome training going on!

But I need a moment to vent/seek advice...
Sorry for the long post.

First of all YOU ARE NOT ALONE and DO NOT GIVE UP!!

First, let's review some positives. You're up and exercising!
You completed a 5K!! That gets a double No matter what you think of your pace. Third, you said you lost some weight That's more than I can manage and I've been running for a little over a year. Of course part of my problem is that I get Mcdonalds as a reward after every long run.... I know I'm horrible person but it's worked so far. Today's 'shorter' long run earned me a Subway so I'm off in the right direction LOL

Now. Dude, I don't know what's going on with your friend, but she does not sound like a very motivational running partner. Maybe at some point, a heart to heart is in order. I'm a very independent person and like to run alone. Of course I'm also divorced and have been to Disney a couple times solo-- not for everyone. Other people definitely need the running buddy/ group to keep them going. My advice is to make this run about YOU. Focus on your own personal triumphs and don't worry about what anyone else thinks of them. Remember, there are a lot of folks who've yet to get up off the sofa and run at all!

Now I know I said focus on you. But you also said your sister is leery of running with you because she's still at a slower pace. I like the idea of running on a loop somewhere where you pass each other every so often. I run at a local park where there is a 1 mile loop. Seems to me your sister might make a much better running buddy. Maybe you don't run the same pace, but if you get up and head out, meet together, maybe go out for a healthy lunch after your run or what have you and set personal goals/ cheer each other on this might help you stay focused on the fun

Do you use any kind of running app? I have the Nike+ app on my ipod and I really like it. Every once in a while it gives me random cheers for things I wasn't expecting that make me feel like I did something awesome. Some are not pace oriented- some are about how often you run, or how much Nike fuel you have earned ( I personally would like the Nike fuel a lot more if I could turn it into points to buy stuff like with my Kroger plus card points LOL )


Now get out there and keep going! Mickey is waiting to cheer you on


For my own, I had those two really lousy runs in a row. Went out today at 830am, a first for me as I am not a morning person and felt great. Accomplished my goal and crushed it just a bit. New shoes felt great. My left leg's a bit sore but not a lot, so I think my next two maintenance runs are going to be extra slow.... and yes add me to the list of ppl who have issues with slowing my pace back to "long run slow" once I get going. And to HK331, don't you fret when seeing some of us post about running faster... there was a time not so very long ago in a world much like this one where it was all I could do to finish.


Hang in there gang! I don't know about where ya'll live, but it's going to be a hot one up here in Kentucky I'm hearing. HUGS!

 

[Ariel484]

Hk331...

First of all, congratulations on making the decision to start running! Taking those first few steps is always the hardest...at least I think so.

How awful that your sister suffered an injury! Hopefully she is running pain-free now. I'm sure both of you know that there is a 16:00/mile pacing requirement for runDisney races? If she can get to that, she's good to go for the race! If not, you probably already know about the deferral process - in case you don't she has until 11/1 to decide. I hope she gets to run this year! That is pretty adorable that you guys have found a way to "train together" even at different paces. It sounds like you two are great training partners.

CONGRATS to you on the weight loss and on improving your pace! It sounds like you are working hard!

About your 5K...

First and foremost, CONGRATULATIONS to you on completing your first race. It takes a lot of guts to sign up for, and finish, an organized race like that, and I really hate that your accomplishment seems to have been overshadowed by what happened between you and your BFF.

So correct me if I'm wrong - it sounds like you were under the impression that you two agreed that you were going to complete this race together no matter what? If so, then clearly your BFF was in the wrong to try to leave you in the dust. No matter what she was definitely wrong to make you feel badly about your effort/pace during the race. It's your first race and you finished it - THAT should be the focus.

If you guys talked about it beforehand and agreed that yes, you wanted to do the race together UNLESS one of you felt super great enough to run ahead and that you were both okay with that...then I think it would have been okay for her to go ahead of you. But that's only if you both agreed on that ahead of time. Either way it sounds like there was some sort of communication breakdown at the very least.

I think you touched on it when you said "I wish I had thought to plan for this scenario!" Going forward it sounds like you need to have something ironclad in place - either you run W&D together until the end, no matter what, or you start out together and see how you both feel and possibly split up. And NEITHER OF YOU CAN MAKE THE OTHER FEEL BADLY IN EITHER SCENARIO. I think this is something that is really tough about having a training partner (I mean, I think...my training partner is me, myself and I ) - how do you each run your race without making the other feel badly? You might need to be brutally honest here, because if not, W&D might be ruined for you too, just like this 5K was.

Does she know that she made you feel like crap during the race? If not, she needs to know that she did and that it's really not acceptable...because it's not.

I got to the finish line and did it... but I did not feel excited. It was horrible, I felt fat and slow and unaccomplished. I felt that the Wine and Dine was just now a distant dream. I had completely convinced my self that if my training partner thought I wasn't good enough, than I must not be. I couldn't cry about it because, well lets face it my parents were there to cheer me on and I didn't want them to know. I put on my medal.... and didnt even want it.

THIS IS NOT OKAY. It's not okay that you finished your first race and felt anything but awesome, accomplished, proud, etc. You should be ecstatic that you got yourself up off the couch and got to where you could complete 3.1 miles and still live to tell the tale - something I bet you never thought you could do.

Maybe this is just me (I'm, like...super independent ) but I think that one of the great things about running is that I can look back over the course of my very short "running career" and say to myself, "Look. Look at what you did. YOU got out there and put in the miles, YOU signed up for and completed these races. YOU made the choice to put on your running shoes today and pound the pavement/treadmill." No one else MADE me do any of this...I did it. Do you have the strength to train alone? No one else can answer that for you. But you deserve better than what you got at your 5K yesterday.

Like I said above, you need to make it clear to your BFF that what happened is not okay. I'd hate for either of your W&D experiences to be ruined - because Disney races are a BLAST - and I'd hate even more for it to ruin your friendship. If it's better for your friendship and if it makes you both happier to train and race separately, you may need to start thinking about doing that.

I have no idea if this helped at all... But don't give up. You're truly off to a great start.

I hope everything works out...happy running!

 

[Woth2982]

Hi everyone, It's so exciting to hear of all the awesome training going on!

But I need a moment to vent/seek advice...
Sorry for the long post.

A little back story about myself: For years I have sat on the couch dreaming of becoming a runner but somehow in the end I always convince myself that it would be too hard or impossible. I'm not the lightest girl in town being 60lbs over weight with previous attempts at weight loss lasting no more than a little over a month.

Back in January of this year, my sister (also a running dreaming couch potato) looked at me and said "Hey! Lets combine our love for Disney and DO THIS run!!!" At first I was extremely intimidated and said I'd have to think about it. About a week later, after hours and hours of running research (including this very forum) I went back to her and said YES, Lets do this! I can't remember the exact person who said it but the Idea of "Did not Finish is better than Did not start" really hit home! - so thank you mystery Diser!

My first steps on a treadmill were exciting, but very slow lol. My pace for 3.2 miles was 25:34. We had no clue what we needed to do for training but we were having a blast at the very idea of just doing it! About two weeks into "training" I went back to the web and spent at least a week looking for the perfect 5k training plan. We both decided that we liked Galloway, so we took his plan and ran with it! (Pun completely intended lol)

About a month into Galloway's training plan, my sister partially ruptured her Achilles. This couldn't have been more devastating but on the bright side the Dr. said it was still attached and she could run again after wearing a boot and physical therapy for a month. Also during this month of training, my Best Friend joined us on our quest and began training with us as well.My sister assured me that she wanted nothing more in the world than to see me cross the finish line at the Wine and Dine and gave me her blessing to continue my training without her, and that she would be back to hitting the pavement before I knew it! So, I continued to train with my BFF while my sister recovered.

Fast forward to Today, I'm 15lbs lighter, my average pace for my last long run 6.94 miles was 16:36 pace! Major improvement from 25:34 average pace! And after almost 7 Months of training 3-4 times a week (bear in mind that this is the longest I have EVER worked out consistently) My first 5K race was upon us.

My sister is back to running and but refuses to let me run with her because her pace is 19:00 and doesn't want to slow me down in my training. (she is considering differing her bib to next year). We've sometimes trained in a parking lot running in a giant circle so we can kind of train together by still being able to see each other no matter our different paces: yelling at each other "you go girl! yahoo! Great job! Don't let this circle beat you!" My BBF is much lighter than I, has a bit of a better athletic base and can run 14:54 minute miles. She will also be running the Wine and Dine. My BFF is also very new to running and stated she does not want to run the half solo because it's Disney and she wanted nothing more than to be sharing the experience running side by side with me! I of course was all for it and couldn't agree more.

Back to the 5k, Which was yesterday. I was completely excited!! My FIRST race EVER!! I was doing it!! my dream! Getting my butt off that couch and was there, with my bib and all!! Going into the race, after reading and reading and reading about first timers and newbie experiences, I knew I was going to go too hard out of the starting line, I knew that walkers were going to pass me, I knew that getting to the finish line was the ONLY goal, no time, no matter this was a fun run!

But what I didn't plan for was my bff to after mile one, treat me like a dirt.

It all started at mile one, I was going my usual pace, when my bff started to really speed up. I mention to her that ummm, you're a little fast lol can you walk with me or I might just die and my legs will fall off lol . Bare in mind that I'm referencing from 7 months of training with her where she kept stating there was nothing more she wanted to do than to run these together, to finish together. So I thought to my self the adrenaline of the race is making her walk fast and she just doesn't know so I mentioned it.

She started to huff and puff, like she was upset. I let it go for .2 miles as she kept walking faster and faster. I took a moment and asked her, is everything okay? She huffed some more and stated to me in that I'm completely disappointed in you right now kind of way, and sharply said "I don't even feel like I'm training" then huffed some more, looked away then stated sharply "Don't worry I'll get over it!"

I was shocked, and wish I had thought to plan for this scenario! I already was playing the mental game a newbie does in a race, (omg people are passing me walking! I feel unprepared, even though I wasn't. Should I slow down!?!?!) All those kind of things. I was doing a pretty great job dealing with it... until then. I wanted to cry! My training partner of 6 and a half months, in the middle of my very first race, lets me know I'm disappointing her, that I'm unbearably slow, that she can't bear to run at this pace, that she'll "get over" this race she does not feel like she's training in.

I looked at her and told her to go ahead, she glanced back and said "are you sure!" My thought: If we continue to run together, I might just cry and quit mid race. so I said, yes, you can go. and off She Happily went.

It took till mile 2 that I gathered my thoughts and said "Just finish, Just finish, just finish." Then my right foot went numb lol, it was hot and clearly my shoe laces were too tight, I pulled over and loosened them but I don't think it was enough as it came and went throughout the rest of the race.

I got to the finish line and did it... but I did not feel excited. It was horrible, I felt fat and slow and unaccomplished. I felt that the Wine and Dine was just now a distant dream. I had completely convinced my self that if my training partner thought I wasn't good enough, than I must not be. I couldn't cry about it because, well lets face it my parents were there to cheer me on and I didn't want them to know. I put on my medal.... and didnt even want it.

I guess right now I'm just lost. Do I have the strength to run/train alone? Do I want to continue with my BFF and take the chance that on race day she reminds me of how slow I am. I just.... have been crying ever since. This race, this training, this whole experience meant so much to me, that is just hurt more than I could have imagined to have my first race experience be that.

It's just happened yesterday and my thoughts are all over the place, I'm sure at some point I will look back and think about how silly I was to let that get to me.

But right now, I guess I just needed a place to get this off my chest, even if no one reads this insanely long post, it feels good to say these things out loud. (or to type it out lol)

You said it yourself "It is better to have a did not finish than a did not start". YOU CAN do this. You have put in the time. Who cares if you are the slowest runner out there? All that matters is what you think of yourself. I ran a race 2 years ago called the Falmouth Road Race, it is 7 miles up hill (the creators of the race never thought, hey maybe this would be easier if we go the OTHER way, for some reason). I finished in 1:49, this year I went at it again, and knocked 11 minutes off my time AFTER knee surgery! I had to keep telling myself you put in the time, you can put in the miles. Don't worry about the person finishing a head of you. Running is great because it is an individual sport. The only competition you have is yourself. All you can do is take your time from this first 5K and use it as something to build upon for the next!

Anyway, I am doing the Wine and Dine half as well. I will probably be in one of the last corrals with an anticipated finish time of 2:55 (same as my first half in May). I will be traveling solo from the 7-12th. Hope to see you at the starting line AND the finish line!

 

[Ariel484]

And FTR, I do all of my training alone (it's my time to just think, ya know? And listen to Disney park loops on my long runs ) and am running the W&D half alone...and I cannot WAIT!

 

[jpeka65844]

Hi everyone, It's so exciting to hear of all the awesome training going on!

But I need a moment to vent/seek advice...
Sorry for the long post.

A little back story about myself: For years I have sat on the couch dreaming of becoming a runner but somehow in the end I always convince myself that it would be too hard or impossible. I'm not the lightest girl in town being 60lbs over weight with previous attempts at weight loss lasting no more than a little over a month.

Back in January of this year, my sister (also a running dreaming couch potato) looked at me and said "Hey! Lets combine our love for Disney and DO THIS run!!!" At first I was extremely intimidated and said I'd have to think about it. About a week later, after hours and hours of running research (including this very forum) I went back to her and said YES, Lets do this! I can't remember the exact person who said it but the Idea of "Did not Finish is better than Did not start" really hit home! - so thank you mystery Diser!

My first steps on a treadmill were exciting, but very slow lol. My pace for 3.2 miles was 25:34. We had no clue what we needed to do for training but we were having a blast at the very idea of just doing it! About two weeks into "training" I went back to the web and spent at least a week looking for the perfect 5k training plan. We both decided that we liked Galloway, so we took his plan and ran with it! (Pun completely intended lol)

About a month into Galloway's training plan, my sister partially ruptured her Achilles. This couldn't have been more devastating but on the bright side the Dr. said it was still attached and she could run again after wearing a boot and physical therapy for a month. Also during this month of training, my Best Friend joined us on our quest and began training with us as well.My sister assured me that she wanted nothing more in the world than to see me cross the finish line at the Wine and Dine and gave me her blessing to continue my training without her, and that she would be back to hitting the pavement before I knew it! So, I continued to train with my BFF while my sister recovered.

Fast forward to Today, I'm 15lbs lighter, my average pace for my last long run 6.94 miles was 16:36 pace! Major improvement from 25:34 average pace! And after almost 7 Months of training 3-4 times a week (bear in mind that this is the longest I have EVER worked out consistently) My first 5K race was upon us.

My sister is back to running and but refuses to let me run with her because her pace is 19:00 and doesn't want to slow me down in my training. (she is considering differing her bib to next year). We've sometimes trained in a parking lot running in a giant circle so we can kind of train together by still being able to see each other no matter our different paces: yelling at each other "you go girl! yahoo! Great job! Don't let this circle beat you!" My BBF is much lighter than I, has a bit of a better athletic base and can run 14:54 minute miles. She will also be running the Wine and Dine. My BFF is also very new to running and stated she does not want to run the half solo because it's Disney and she wanted nothing more than to be sharing the experience running side by side with me! I of course was all for it and couldn't agree more.

Back to the 5k, Which was yesterday. I was completely excited!! My FIRST race EVER!! I was doing it!! my dream! Getting my butt off that couch and was there, with my bib and all!! Going into the race, after reading and reading and reading about first timers and newbie experiences, I knew I was going to go too hard out of the starting line, I knew that walkers were going to pass me, I knew that getting to the finish line was the ONLY goal, no time, no matter this was a fun run!

But what I didn't plan for was my bff to after mile one, treat me like a dirt.

It all started at mile one, I was going my usual pace, when my bff started to really speed up. I mention to her that ummm, you're a little fast lol can you walk with me or I might just die and my legs will fall off lol . Bare in mind that I'm referencing from 7 months of training with her where she kept stating there was nothing more she wanted to do than to run these together, to finish together. So I thought to my self the adrenaline of the race is making her walk fast and she just doesn't know so I mentioned it.

She started to huff and puff, like she was upset. I let it go for .2 miles as she kept walking faster and faster. I took a moment and asked her, is everything okay? She huffed some more and stated to me in that I'm completely disappointed in you right now kind of way, and sharply said "I don't even feel like I'm training" then huffed some more, looked away then stated sharply "Don't worry I'll get over it!"

I was shocked, and wish I had thought to plan for this scenario! I already was playing the mental game a newbie does in a race, (omg people are passing me walking! I feel unprepared, even though I wasn't. Should I slow down!?!?!) All those kind of things. I was doing a pretty great job dealing with it... until then. I wanted to cry! My training partner of 6 and a half months, in the middle of my very first race, lets me know I'm disappointing her, that I'm unbearably slow, that she can't bear to run at this pace, that she'll "get over" this race she does not feel like she's training in.

I looked at her and told her to go ahead, she glanced back and said "are you sure!" My thought: If we continue to run together, I might just cry and quit mid race. so I said, yes, you can go. and off She Happily went.

It took till mile 2 that I gathered my thoughts and said "Just finish, Just finish, just finish." Then my right foot went numb lol, it was hot and clearly my shoe laces were too tight, I pulled over and loosened them but I don't think it was enough as it came and went throughout the rest of the race.

I got to the finish line and did it... but I did not feel excited. It was horrible, I felt fat and slow and unaccomplished. I felt that the Wine and Dine was just now a distant dream. I had completely convinced my self that if my training partner thought I wasn't good enough, than I must not be. I couldn't cry about it because, well lets face it my parents were there to cheer me on and I didn't want them to know. I put on my medal.... and didnt even want it.

I guess right now I'm just lost. Do I have the strength to run/train alone? Do I want to continue with my BFF and take the chance that on race day she reminds me of how slow I am. I just.... have been crying ever since. This race, this training, this whole experience meant so much to me, that is just hurt more than I could have imagined to have my first race experience be that.

It's just happened yesterday and my thoughts are all over the place, I'm sure at some point I will look back and think about how silly I was to let that get to me.

But right now, I guess I just needed a place to get this off my chest, even if no one reads this insanely long post, it feels good to say these things out loud. (or to type it out lol)

Ditch your running partner and keep on keeping on. Running is a purely solo sport and to allow a "teammate" to drag you down is totally unnecessary. I train solo but have run a few times with friends and it's hard. You're trying to keep pace with each other and are contantly thinking about what the other person may be thinking about YOU. When DH and I run races we say "see you at the finish line" and split up and are on our own.

I would suggest keeping up on these boards; join a FB running group, get involved in a community to keep you motivated schedule-wise but ditch the bad influences.

 

[schoonersky]

Hi everyone, It's so exciting to hear of all the awesome training going on!

But I need a moment to vent/seek advice...
Sorry for the long post.

A little back story about myself: For years I have sat on the couch dreaming of becoming a runner but somehow in the end I always convince myself that it would be too hard or impossible. I'm not the lightest girl in town being 60lbs over weight with previous attempts at weight loss lasting no more than a little over a month.

Back in January of this year, my sister (also a running dreaming couch potato) looked at me and said "Hey! Lets combine our love for Disney and DO THIS run!!!" At first I was extremely intimidated and said I'd have to think about it. About a week later, after hours and hours of running research (including this very forum) I went back to her and said YES, Lets do this! I can't remember the exact person who said it but the Idea of "Did not Finish is better than Did not start" really hit home! - so thank you mystery Diser!

My first steps on a treadmill were exciting, but very slow lol. My pace for 3.2 miles was 25:34. We had no clue what we needed to do for training but we were having a blast at the very idea of just doing it! About two weeks into "training" I went back to the web and spent at least a week looking for the perfect 5k training plan. We both decided that we liked Galloway, so we took his plan and ran with it! (Pun completely intended lol)

About a month into Galloway's training plan, my sister partially ruptured her Achilles. This couldn't have been more devastating but on the bright side the Dr. said it was still attached and she could run again after wearing a boot and physical therapy for a month. Also during this month of training, my Best Friend joined us on our quest and began training with us as well.My sister assured me that she wanted nothing more in the world than to see me cross the finish line at the Wine and Dine and gave me her blessing to continue my training without her, and that she would be back to hitting the pavement before I knew it! So, I continued to train with my BFF while my sister recovered.

Fast forward to Today, I'm 15lbs lighter, my average pace for my last long run 6.94 miles was 16:36 pace! Major improvement from 25:34 average pace! And after almost 7 Months of training 3-4 times a week (bear in mind that this is the longest I have EVER worked out consistently) My first 5K race was upon us.

My sister is back to running and but refuses to let me run with her because her pace is 19:00 and doesn't want to slow me down in my training. (she is considering differing her bib to next year). We've sometimes trained in a parking lot running in a giant circle so we can kind of train together by still being able to see each other no matter our different paces: yelling at each other "you go girl! yahoo! Great job! Don't let this circle beat you!" My BBF is much lighter than I, has a bit of a better athletic base and can run 14:54 minute miles. She will also be running the Wine and Dine. My BFF is also very new to running and stated she does not want to run the half solo because it's Disney and she wanted nothing more than to be sharing the experience running side by side with me! I of course was all for it and couldn't agree more.

Back to the 5k, Which was yesterday. I was completely excited!! My FIRST race EVER!! I was doing it!! my dream! Getting my butt off that couch and was there, with my bib and all!! Going into the race, after reading and reading and reading about first timers and newbie experiences, I knew I was going to go too hard out of the starting line, I knew that walkers were going to pass me, I knew that getting to the finish line was the ONLY goal, no time, no matter this was a fun run!

But what I didn't plan for was my bff to after mile one, treat me like a dirt.

It all started at mile one, I was going my usual pace, when my bff started to really speed up. I mention to her that ummm, you're a little fast lol can you walk with me or I might just die and my legs will fall off lol . Bare in mind that I'm referencing from 7 months of training with her where she kept stating there was nothing more she wanted to do than to run these together, to finish together. So I thought to my self the adrenaline of the race is making her walk fast and she just doesn't know so I mentioned it.

She started to huff and puff, like she was upset. I let it go for .2 miles as she kept walking faster and faster. I took a moment and asked her, is everything okay? She huffed some more and stated to me in that I'm completely disappointed in you right now kind of way, and sharply said "I don't even feel like I'm training" then huffed some more, looked away then stated sharply "Don't worry I'll get over it!"

I was shocked, and wish I had thought to plan for this scenario! I already was playing the mental game a newbie does in a race, (omg people are passing me walking! I feel unprepared, even though I wasn't. Should I slow down!?!?!) All those kind of things. I was doing a pretty great job dealing with it... until then. I wanted to cry! My training partner of 6 and a half months, in the middle of my very first race, lets me know I'm disappointing her, that I'm unbearably slow, that she can't bear to run at this pace, that she'll "get over" this race she does not feel like she's training in.

I looked at her and told her to go ahead, she glanced back and said "are you sure!" My thought: If we continue to run together, I might just cry and quit mid race. so I said, yes, you can go. and off She Happily went.

It took till mile 2 that I gathered my thoughts and said "Just finish, Just finish, just finish." Then my right foot went numb lol, it was hot and clearly my shoe laces were too tight, I pulled over and loosened them but I don't think it was enough as it came and went throughout the rest of the race.

I got to the finish line and did it... but I did not feel excited. It was horrible, I felt fat and slow and unaccomplished. I felt that the Wine and Dine was just now a distant dream. I had completely convinced my self that if my training partner thought I wasn't good enough, than I must not be. I couldn't cry about it because, well lets face it my parents were there to cheer me on and I didn't want them to know. I put on my medal.... and didnt even want it.

I guess right now I'm just lost. Do I have the strength to run/train alone? Do I want to continue with my BFF and take the chance that on race day she reminds me of how slow I am. I just.... have been crying ever since. This race, this training, this whole experience meant so much to me, that is just hurt more than I could have imagined to have my first race experience be that.

It's just happened yesterday and my thoughts are all over the place, I'm sure at some point I will look back and think about how silly I was to let that get to me.

But right now, I guess I just needed a place to get this off my chest, even if no one reads this insanely long post, it feels good to say these things out loud. (or to type it out lol)

Hey there! First off, CONGRATULATIONS on completing your first official 5k race!!! You have trained incredibly hard for many months, pushing yourself off the couch and out the door and regardless if what anyone says or how anyone acts YOU should be very, very proud of yourself.

I am very disappointed in how your 'BFF' acted and treated you after all the hard work you have put in and on that very special day for you. Quite frankly, if my BFF acted like that I would have told her after race that it was too bad she turned out to be an 'insert colourful word here' and that I was really disappointed in her actions. I would not want to run with her at Disney or anywhere. But you know, there are lots of us going to be at Wine & Dine, and I'm certain some of us will be in your pace range. My DH is about 65-75 pounds overweight and has struggled very much with his training due to aches, pains, etc., mostly weight related. I am currently training at about 11:30 or mile, and he is at about 16. He is pushing hard, and I don't care when we finish, I just really hope we can make it in front of those balloon ladies!!

I just told my DH this story and he refers to her as the b*tchy fast friend. He says he understands completely how you feel, that this is very tough and that you should either plan to run with your sister if she thinks she can stay ahead of that pace, plan to run yourself with some of us DIS'ers that will be in your area, or defer and run with your sister next year, so you can really enjoy your race.

I think we just have to find a good way to identify ourselves (green iron on DIS for the back of our shirts?) so we can support each other through this trek.

Congratulations! And keep working, we are very proud of you!!!

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