The NEW AP Rate Watch Thread, Are they out yet??

[CarolA]

Last year the AP rates were released much earlier then usual and were for greater periods than usual. So I don't know if you can use last year as your basis.

 

[Margaret West]

just wanted to keep this active.

 

[lizzie64]

I'm really starting to think that the delay in the AP rates is due to Disney closing POFQ. I think they probably knew they would have to relocate everyone and would need the rooms available to discount to the POFQ reservation holders. So, in turn, no AP rates.

Just a theory, I may be wrong. I hope I am.

 

[Tess]

No APs this a.m. when Discount Man called. . .

 

[Sammie]

Originally posted by lizzie64
I'm really starting to think that the delay in the AP rates is due to Disney closing POFQ. I think they probably knew they would have to relocate everyone and would need the rooms available to discount to the POFQ reservation holders. So, in turn, no AP rates.

Just a theory, I may be wrong. I hope I am.

Considering now that some are even getting the Grand Floridian at tremendous prices from being relocated you may be right. The allocation of discounts and rooms may be gone by May.

 

[lizzie64]

Even the GF? Wow!! Now I wish I had booked POFQ.

I'm happy that everyone is getting such great deals, that's unbelievable, but would hate for it to be at the expense of AP holders.

 

[peachgirl]

The CBR closure last year had no effect on AP rates that I could tell. The CBR is a much larger resort and effected many more people than POFQ will.

 

[DebbieB]

I think the wide availability of code rates may be the reason there are no special AP rates. There have been so many different codes for the time period, plus Florida resident rates, plus post card rates that have been out for some time.

 

[BrianD]

What's also interesting is that, though the discounts for the most part are not as good as they were this time last year, people are still booking them. I'm really starting to wonder about AP rates. I actually gave up on them last week. Hey $94 a night still ain't bad for a moderate!

 

[LvsTnk]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but when CBR closed they only offered upgrades to Polynesian, WL, and AKL. Now it seems you can get almost any resort, at some great rates. I do believe they deserve it, but I also think it is playing a factor on when and if those AP rates are gonna come out. There are also alot of codes, and they probably have figured out that people are only buying 1 AP per family (nothing wrong with that) to get the rate. It just may not be cost effective to offer AP rates right now.

 

[s&k'smom]

Add me to the waiting list. have a ressie for June and have bought my first AP and now waiting for a rate.

 

[peachgirl]

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but when CBR closed they only offered upgrades to Polynesian, WL, and AKL. Now it seems you can get almost any resort, at some great rates.

I agree, that's what it was last year with the CBR closing. So, I took a quick look at the POFQ uprgrade thread. At first glance it does seem like the deals are just incredible, and some are! However if you really look closely, there's not that many of those type of offers being made that it ought to affect AP's. I did a very quick count, so I may have missed something. But, in general it looks like there's 1 person each saying they got YC, BWI or BC. The vast majority are reporting getting AKL or the Poly. It appears as though AKL or WL is running about $10 per nite more with the others being about $30 per nite. I saw no mention of the Grand Floridian, although I only checked the POFQ closing thread.

At any rate, the numbers don't seem to be enough that it would have any effect on AP's. I realize that not everyone who is booked at POFQ posts here, but I'd bet that those who don't read or post on this site know nothing about the possibility of upgrades.

I tend to believe the lack of AP rates has more to do with the abundance of other discount codes. I don't recall there being so many, even last year.

Of course, this is all pure speculation, but it does pass the time!

 

[DisneyKidds]

I think the wide availability of code rates may be the reason there are no special AP rates. There have been so many different codes for the time period, plus Florida resident rates, plus post card rates that have been out for some time.

The ONLY way the proliferation of other discounts should have ANY effect on AP rates is if Disney is successful in achieving desired occupancy rates with the bookings they get by offering these discounts. AP resort rates are a great benefit when available. Unfortunately, many people have come to 'expect' them. The way I have always viewed AP resort discounts is that they are a nice perk to offer to a loyal group of guests IF Disney has excess inventory that they need to move. No excess inventory, no AP rates.

I really hope they come out with AP rates. We want to stay at the GF for a night in May. The current best rate we can find using a code is $317. Too rich for my blood. If they offer an AP rate that brings it down to $250 or so we'll bite. Otherwise I'll use a free night I have at the Marriott. It would be nice to get a good AP rate and I think they will offer AP rates eventually, but the waiting is killing me.....................................

 

[gepetto]

Maybe they cross referenced AP holder names with current reservations and found that a large percentage of people already had rooms booked.

 

[DisneyKidds]

Maybe they cross referenced AP holder names with current reservations and found that a large percentage of people already had rooms booked.

What people have booked and where they actually stay can be two entirely different things. Disney knows that and it would be a mistake to not offer AP discounts on this basis. Last month when I called about AP rates the CM suggested I make a reservation with a code at a higher rate so that we had a room held. She knew I was unlikely to use that reservation if an AP discount did not become available.

Personally, I doubt they went throught the trouble to cross reference resort reservations and AP lists, but you never know..............

 

[peachgirl]

I don't know why cm's suggest this, except on the hope that maybe people will keep the room even if there is no discount. Reserving a room in advance of any discounts doesn't do a thing to increase your chances of getting a discount once they are released. If someone reserves a room with the intention of cancelling if discounts don't come out, all it really does is artificially increase the rate of occupancy. The higher the occupancy rate, the fewer the discounts.

 

[DisneyKidds]

If someone reserves a room with the intention of cancelling if discounts don't come out, all it really does is artificially increase the rate of occupancy. The higher the occupancy rate, the fewer the discounts.

I agree. Of course that creates a dilemma for us. I REALLY don't want to spend $300+ a night for the GF should an AP discount not become available. I have no intention of paying that much. Of course the boss.................er...............ah............I mean my DW has other ideas . I'd hate to not have a discount reservation of some sort should she make the final decision.

 

[LvsTnk]

Yes, Peachgirl there are other websites that are reporting upgrades from POFQ as well. I don't think it is the main reason but I do think it is one of them. Considering everything I think they will be very careful in what rates they do offer.

It is all just speculation anyway. Maybe they will surprise us like they did offering AP rates up until Dec. 25th that first time.

 

[peachgirl]

Originally posted by DisneyKidds
I agree. Of course that creates a dilemma for us. I REALLY don't want to spend $300+ a night for the GF should an AP discount not become available. I have no intention of paying that much. Of course the boss.................er...............ah............I mean my DW has other ideas . I'd hate to not have a discount reservation of some sort should she make the final decision.

That's a bit of a different situation than I was referring to. If there's even a possibility you'd keep the reservation, then I say by all means book it! I just meant that I've read a lot of posts from people who are absolutely not going to keep the reservation they made if an AP rate doesn't come out. That doesn't make any sense at all.

In your case, my advice is this...The last thing you want to do is get on the bosses' bad side!

LvsTnk....If I had the answer as to why no AP rates yet or when they would be coming out I'd be a pretty popular person right now! I went through the CBR closing last year though, and it's got to be pretty frustrating for someone who can't get any kind of upgrade to read about someone getting the YC for $120 a nite! I'm glad I'm not in that group this year!!!!

 

[sneezy1956]

Hi All! I just called again and no AP rates yet. The lady said sorry no luck yet keep trying