The Liberal Thread #2 - No Debate Please

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Clinton\Obama - imho - they would be UNBEATABLE!!!


Let's say you're John McCain - or you never know - Mitt Romney - I know - shudder.......

Who do you pick as your running mate?

An unknown, or known? Younger or Older? Man or Woman........

Who do you think would fire up their base?


I think McCain has to pick someone younger but also someone with some experience. Romney will need someone that all the Republicans like. I just hope it's not Huckabee, that man scares me.

I am voting for Obama. I can see a Clinton/Obama ticket but not the other way around. I just don't think she will want to be VP, she can have more power in the Senate.
 
I can see a Clinton/Obama ticket but not the other way around. I just don't think she will want to be VP, she can have more power in the Senate.

Agreed, I see Edwards as the more likely VP for Obama.
 
I totally hate the fact that here in Tx we just get to sit on our hands see what the rest of the country decides. It's driving me crazy!


Go Hillary!!
 

Doesn't Texas vote in early March with Ohio? We're 'fired up' here! I'm so psyched that our party has put forth so many great choices!!! We're just all walking around grinning. The record turnouts keep happening for we Dems!!! People are energized and it's got momentum. It's the most fun I've had in an election since college and my first big presidential election!
 
...for Obama.

I finally made my decision last night. Our polls opened at 6:00 AM. DH and I arrived at 6:15. We were not the first...they had already had more voters in 15 minutes than they had in the first hour of the last election.
 
I FOUND YOUSE!:goodvibes

You can run, but ya cant hide from the DisUnc!:surfweb:

Happy Super Tuesday to whomever Votes today!
Me & electics will just sit back and observe today!:thumbsup2
 
I am a staunch liberal, but I actually may vote on the Republican ticket today.... for McCain.

Obama is my favorite candidate, but I think he's already going to win here in Georgia. The way I'm thinking is... I'd rather McCain be the Republican candidate than Romney :scared1: . That way, if the Democratic candidate loses in November, at least McCain is more moderate.

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Voting day is HERE :woohoo:

I am so fired up, can't wait to see how the day plays out.

here in MN our local voting doesn't start until 6:30pm. We have a Caucus here not primaries. Not sure how it works in other states with a Caucus but here you can just go in and vote. You don't have to stay for the whole thing, which lasts until around 8:00pm.
Like I said in another post this is my very first Caucus so I am still learning the process of the whole thing.

Anyway, DH and I are both voting for Hillary and my mom asked if she can go with us and she too is voting for Hillary. So three votes here for Hillary! ;)
 
Is it only in America where one's experience be discounted?

I've been hearing this argument, sort of, for Obama - experience - who needs experience? Its better in this case not to have experience!

I was applying that to my own job hunting years - could you imagine if you were to tell a prospective employer that?
 
VOTED here in MA for Obama.

And I think Obama does have enough experience to be President. Leadership is most important in that job, and I think he has that skill. The rest is really choosing the right team (as opposed to George Bush's team) to advise you.
 
Sometimes I really hate that I live in Florida.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/maitland/orl-initiative0308feb03,0,2960937.story

Debate heats up before vote on gay-marriage ban

Susan Jacobson | Sentinel Staff Writer
February 3, 2008

Supporters and opponents of a constitutional gay-marriage ban stepped up their campaigns Saturday in an emotional battle that both sides agree will likely boost the eventual Republican presidential nominee's chances in Florida.

The state Division of Elections announced late Friday that a petition drive, launched several years ago by social conservatives, made Friday's deadline for inclusion on the November ballot.

"It's absolutely going to drive conservatives to the polls," said Erin VanSickle, a spokeswoman for the Republican Party of Florida, whose chairman, Jim Greer, in a statement applauded the certification. "It's a Republican issue. It's a conservative issue."

Some opponents of the ban say the timing was designed to attract more conservative voters to the polls in Florida, which has 27 electoral votes at stake.

Barbara DeVane, 65, state secretary of the Florida Alliance for Retired Americans, is among them.

"The other reason they're doing it is to bring out the hard-core, fundamentalist, right-wing base of Republicans for the presidential election," said DeVane, a retired schoolteacher and founding member of the board of Fairness for All Families, which opposes the amendment.

The rhetoric already was flying before the petition drive gained enough signatures. Orlando-based Florida4Marriage collected about 649,000 signatures, more than the 611,000 required.

Groups opposed to the amendment say it will end government and corporate domestic-partner benefits for gays and non-gays, and hurt economic development in the state by turning off potential employers.

"Even if you believe same-sex marriage is wrong, you shouldn't be glad to send a signal to the world that we don't believe in diversity," said Steve Kodsi, an Orlando restaurateur and real-estate developer.

Supporters say the amendment would simply cement into the Florida Constitution what already exists in state law, making it impossible for court challenges to reverse it.

The amendment defines marriage as "the legal union of only one man and one woman" and mandates that "no other legal union is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent . . . "

"This is a marriage amendment," said Mathew Staver, a lawyer who is founder and chairman of the Maitland-based Liberty Counsel. "The opposition tried to change the focus to benefits and scare tactics."

Staver and his wife, Anita, also a lawyer, drafted language for the amendment, and Staver argued for it in court.

Voters on Saturday were divided.

Yvette Comeau, who owns a book and music shop in Sanford, said there are many more pressing matters on the public agenda, such as the economy and the war in Iraq. The proposed amendment, she says, "deflects us from the real issues that we need to pull together on."

Others, such as Hubert Brizard, a retired security guard from Sanford, said he believes that marriage can include only one man and one woman.

"If they want to be partners, that's fine," Brizard said of gay couples. "There is no such thing as [a] two-men marriage. I would say it's against nature."

Some people, including Orange County Commissioner Mildred Fernandez, said that while they support equal rights and opportunities for gay people on the job and in housing, marriage is a boundary that shouldn't be crossed.

"Gay marriage -- I would never be for that," said Fernandez, who was attending her party's annual meeting Saturday at the Rosen Centre Hotel on International Drive. "I'm too conservative. The gay community understands that."

Advocates for both sides plan to continue their grass-roots and voter-education campaigns. They also are raising money for media ads.
 
...I was thrilled to see a crowd of young people waving signs along Route 206 (big commuter route) to support Obama and encourage people to vote.

Seeing how many younger folks are getting involved in this election was one of the reasons I decided to vote for Obama.
 
Happy Super Tuesday everyone!

Is there a video of Hillary's Town Hall meeting from last night? I couldn't watch or record it.
 
They pulled that crap in Ohio in 2004. The ads were nauseating. "It just makes sense!" Like gays getting married is just so off-the-wall ridiculous that of course it MUST be banned. :sad2:


They use a wedge issue when they feel they might be in trouble in a particular state. Typical behavior. Karl Rove still lives. :sad2:
 
Did my civic duty. I was #99 in our little precinct. There's going to be a big turn out here. I don't know what that will mean for the candidates but its good for the country in general.
 
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